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September 29th, 2021 at 2:14:34 PM permalink
And on the other hand……..isn’t it true they don’t charge you guys to exit the city, they want you gone huh?

Plenty of New Yorkers have autos, plenty.
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September 29th, 2021 at 2:21:33 PM permalink
Quote: Marcusclark66

And on the other hand……..isn’t it true they don’t charge you guys to exit the city, they want you gone huh?

Plenty of New Yorkers have autos, plenty.

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    And it costs New Yorkers $1,000 a month for a garage spot or $100,000 for a car condominium.

    People in Nevada dont realize what the true cost of living is elsewhere. This is why the casinos think it's okay to charge for parking.
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    September 29th, 2021 at 2:25:28 PM permalink
    There are NY'ers who own cars, of course, but they are a minority.

    And if they get gouged in prices, that's their issue when there are cheap alternatives available.

    I can get from NYC to Atlantic City for $21 by bus.

    Try beating that price driving.
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    September 29th, 2021 at 2:41:56 PM permalink
    Quote: darkoz

    There are NY'ers who own cars, of course, but they are a minority.

    And if they get gouged in prices, that's their issue when there are cheap alternatives available.

    I can get from NYC to Atlantic City for $21 by bus.

    Try beating that price driving.

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    Must be a +EV play. Do you also get a roll of quarters at the casino?

    But with all your money why aren't you going by limo?
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    September 29th, 2021 at 2:59:38 PM permalink
    Quote: AlanMendelson

    Quote: darkoz

    There are NY'ers who own cars, of course, but they are a minority.

    And if they get gouged in prices, that's their issue when there are cheap alternatives available.

    I can get from NYC to Atlantic City for $21 by bus.

    Try beating that price driving.

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    Must be a +EV play. Do you also get a roll of quarters at the casino?

    But with all your money why aren't you going by limo?
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    Because I am not a dumbass who spends hundreds to get to AC when it costs $21.
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    September 29th, 2021 at 3:02:32 PM permalink
    Quote: darkoz

    Quote: AlanMendelson

    Quote: darkoz

    There are NY'ers who own cars, of course, but they are a minority.

    And if they get gouged in prices, that's their issue when there are cheap alternatives available.

    I can get from NYC to Atlantic City for $21 by bus.

    Try beating that price driving.

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    Must be a +EV play. Do you also get a roll of quarters at the casino?

    But with all your money why aren't you going by limo?
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    Because I am not a dumbass who spends hundreds to get to AC when it costs $21.
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    I must apologize. With all of those players cards and all that free play you really do need to fly under the radar.

    What was I thinking?
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    September 29th, 2021 at 3:10:33 PM permalink
    Quote: AlanMendelson

    Quote: darkoz

    Quote: AlanMendelson

    Quote: darkoz

    There are NY'ers who own cars, of course, but they are a minority.

    And if they get gouged in prices, that's their issue when there are cheap alternatives available.

    I can get from NYC to Atlantic City for $21 by bus.

    Try beating that price driving.

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    Must be a +EV play. Do you also get a roll of quarters at the casino?

    But with all your money why aren't you going by limo?
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    Because I am not a dumbass who spends hundreds to get to AC when it costs $21.
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    I must apologize. With all of those players cards and all that free play you really do need to fly under the radar.

    What was I thinking?
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    I have no idea what that means. I pay my taxes and own quite a lot of stuff. I'm not flying under the radar.

    My multi-carding operations can't be advertised to Casinos but they all pretty much know me and still can't stop me.

    What that has to do with driving a car, I have no idea.
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    September 29th, 2021 at 4:29:41 PM permalink
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    What that has to do with driving a car, I have no idea.



    It’s a ‘not from NY’ thing. When I lived in NYC mass transit was something everyone did. Outside of NYC it tends to be what poor people do. There are public buses and trains here in Buffalo, but I do not not know a single person that ever uses them.

    I took a bus from NYC to AC maybe a dozen times, but once I could afford a car I liked the freedom of coming and going on my own schedule, which of course could change.

    Your situation sounds different, and you deserve no scorn for using public transit if it suits your needs.
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    September 29th, 2021 at 5:08:21 PM permalink
    Quote: AlanMendelson

    Quote: darkoz

    There are NY'ers who own cars, of course, but they are a minority.

    And if they get gouged in prices, that's their issue when there are cheap alternatives available.

    I can get from NYC to Atlantic City for $21 by bus.

    Try beating that price driving.

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    Must be a +EV play. Do you also get a roll of quarters at the casino?

    But with all your money why aren't you going by limo?
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    With that being said, MC wouldn't have to worry about expenses since he could be making millions all while getting RFB at the casino for years. I'm sure they will send limos and private jets as well.
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    September 29th, 2021 at 10:39:06 PM permalink
    Quote: Marcusclark66

    Plenty of New Yorkers (city) have autos, plenty.

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    Well, the overwhelming majority of New Yorkers don't have a car. Only 31.9% of households do, that's less than a third. That means there are nearly two million households that are car-free. It's the lowest rate of car ownership anywhere in the U.S.

    https://furmancenter.org/stateofthecity/view/state-of-homeowners-and-their-homes
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    September 30th, 2021 at 12:15:54 AM permalink
    Quote: MichaelBluejay

    Quote: Marcusclark66

    Plenty of New Yorkers (city) have autos, plenty.

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    Well, the overwhelming majority of New Yorkers don't have a car. Only 31.9% of households do, that's less than a third. That means there are nearly two million households that are car-free. It's the lowest rate of car ownership anywhere in the U.S.

    https://furmancenter.org/stateofthecity/view/state-of-homeowners-and-their-homes
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    I wonder what percentage of New Yorkers rent cars when they want to leave the city?
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    September 30th, 2021 at 12:34:10 AM permalink
    Quote: AlanMendelson

    Quote: MichaelBluejay

    Quote: Marcusclark66

    Plenty of New Yorkers (city) have autos, plenty.

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    Well, the overwhelming majority of New Yorkers don't have a car. Only 31.9% of households do, that's less than a third. That means there are nearly two million households that are car-free. It's the lowest rate of car ownership anywhere in the U.S.

    https://furmancenter.org/stateofthecity/view/state-of-homeowners-and-their-homes
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    I wonder what percentage of New Yorkers rent cars when they want to leave the city?
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    I don't have any statistics on that but from personal knowledge it's very small.

    For one thing most new Yorkers don't even learn to drive. I certainly haven't ever taken a single lesson. Just no interest.

    For a few years I moved my family to Hollywood where I had some work and put my daughter in high school in LA. I still remember her coming home the first day beaming. "Dad, they actually have auto shop and driving Ed classes in High School. I can't believe it."

    Not one high school in NYC teaches either auto shop skills or drivers Ed.

    The NY Port Authority for buses and 34th Street Penn Station for trains going south and Grand Central terminal for trains going North are jam packed with pedestrians even into the late evening hours.

    That's because most NY'ers leaving the city commute by public transportation.

    Most of the cars that clog NYC are from upstate NY or Jersey, etc. Traffic is absolutely terrible. I have had friends from out of state scoff at my suggestion they travel by train and then they rent a car and scream how it took three hours to travel twenty Miles. It's usually bumper to bumper from 7 am till about 9 pm in NYC
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    September 30th, 2021 at 1:23:55 AM permalink
    Darkoz I must admit I had an edge when I lived and worked in the NYC area. I had NYP license plates on my car. NYP = New York Press

    There are designated NYP parking zones all over Manhattan, not only by media offices (I worked at CBS News) but in major business locations.

    Now a confession: when I was the overnight assignment editor for the network and lived in nearby Bergen County, NJ I took the bus in. I left my car with my NYP plates for my wife who worked in the World Trade Center. She parked in the NYP zone at the entrance.

    This went on merrily for a year. Then one day a traffic cop saw her park and TICKETED the car even though she had the NYP plates.

    She called me in a panic when she left the office for lunch.

    I told her she had to go to traffic court to get the ticket canceled.

    She went to the court. She said "my husband's car was ticketed by mistake."

    The administrator at the court said to her "I know what you people do. Your husband gives you the car so you can park for free."

    She said nothing. The ticket was dismissed.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 4:09:45 AM permalink
    Quote: Marcusclark66

    And on the other hand……..isn’t it true they don’t charge you guys to exit the city, they want you gone huh?

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    I always figured that with the prices in the city as they are, they understand a tourist may be leaving town with no coin in pocket.

    It's less of a problem now that tolling is by transponder or plate photo, but it's tradition.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 4:35:22 AM permalink
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    It’s a ‘not from NY’ thing. When I lived in NYC mass transit was something everyone did. Outside of NYC it tends to be what poor people do. There are public buses and trains here in Buffalo, but I do not not know a single person that ever uses them.


    I would wager that the average income of commuter train passengers from the suburbs into Philadelphia is well over $100k.

    But of course they drive to the train station.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 4:58:19 AM permalink
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    For one thing most new Yorkers don't even learn to drive

    Most Floridians don't learn to drive, even though they have licenses.

    I live in Manhattan and have never owned a car in my life (I've got a license). It's an issue of practicality...the rare benefits of ownership simply don't outweigh all the downsides.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 5:20:54 AM permalink
    Quote: Marcusclark66

    And on the other hand……..isn’t it true they don’t charge you guys to exit the city, they want you gone huh?
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    That is one twisted logic.

    Most places of value charge for entry and allow freedom of egress

    You want to go to Disneyland. You pay to get in and are free to leave when you want.

    By your logic, Disneyland wants everyone gone so they don't charge for leaving.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 5:39:45 AM permalink
    The reason the tolls are for entering is to cut down on the wait times at the toll plaza.

    Studies have shown a more concentrated exit time. Entrance times are more spread out.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 5:47:53 AM permalink
    From NY1 News: "The one-way toll was instituted by Congress to cut down on traffic building up at toll booths"

    It is impossible to drive into New York City without paying a toll.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 6:15:17 AM permalink
    Several years ago coming back from AC, I was $0.25 short of the $5 toll on the Walt Whitman bridge. For some reason I can’t remember I didn’t have my EZ pass with me.

    I figured they would just take my info and send me an inflated bill in the mail. NOPE! The toll booth worker immediately calls the police, and says I need to wait there for them so they can not only write me a ticket, but still not let me cross and escort me back over the bridge. Over $0.25!!!

    I hopped out of my car in the middle of the toll booth and asked the car waiting behind me for a quarter. They helped me out and I paid the toll and left.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 6:21:57 AM permalink
    I love it!

    Google search. “ Many people in New York don't even own a car. This might be because they do not have enough money to afford a car due to the high cost of rent in the city. Living in the city can be really expensive. This means that paying for public transportation is often the more affordable option over owning a car and driving.Sep 12, 2015”

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    September 30th, 2021 at 6:22:58 AM permalink
    Quote: gamerfreak

    Several years ago coming back from AC, I was $0.25 short of the $5 toll on the Walt Whitman bridge. For some reason I can’t remember I didn’t have my EZ pass with me.

    I figured they would just take my info and send me an inflated bill in the mail. NOPE! The toll booth worker immediately calls the police, and says I need to wait there for them so they can not only write me a ticket, but still not let me cross and escort me back over the bridge. Over $0.25!!!

    I hopped out of my car in the middle of the toll booth and asked the car waiting behind me for a quarter. They helped me out and I paid the toll and left.

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    Years ago I did a TV news story about not being able to pay for parking and tolls after a vacation and EVERY government official said toll/parking booths were prepared to take your name etc to send a bill in the mail.

    This is outrageous what happened to you and I think it violated policy.

    Too bad it didnt happen more recently. I would have been all over it for you.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 7:22:09 AM permalink
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    I love it!

    Google search. “ Many people in New York don't even own a car. This might be because they do not have enough money to afford a car due to the high cost of rent in the city. Living in the city can be really expensive. This means that paying for public transportation is often the more affordable option over owning a car and driving.Sep 12, 2015”

    Yes indeed.

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    I noticed you gave no source for that quote which laughingly says "this might be .".

    When someone says "this might be" it means they have no idea.

    Not to mention the fact the logic is again twisted. If people are paying such high rent then they are making a lot of money. They just choose to spend it living in the city.

    I had a friend who moved to South Carolina because the rent was so cheap over NYC. She ended up moving back. Why? She couldn't afford the cheap rent because her job down south was paying commensurate with living needs. In essence, lower rent, lower paying job opportunities.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 7:34:21 AM permalink
    Family maintains an apartment in NYC and I used to spent long periods there. People who maintain a car or a car with driver do so because they can afford it, or because their jobs provide one for them. People with cars or drivers in NYC don't have to spend on that, but they do.

    DarkOz according to his income claims, could easily afford to maintain a car or go to Atlantic City in something nicer than a bus. In Rounders even those NYC law school kids had a car with which to go to Atlantic City. I assume DO doesn't keep a car and still travels by bus, by force of habit more than anything else. Or maybe he gets off on knowing that he is spending the absolute minimum in expenses within his business. Or maybe he has to transport a gang of employees to Atlantic City with him each trip and they won't all fit in a limo.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 7:36:17 AM permalink
    Quote: AlanMendelson

    It is impossible to drive into New York City without paying a toll.

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    I don't think this is an accurate statement. For example, I'm pretty sure you can take I-95 from CT into Manhattan without paying a toll.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 7:44:00 AM permalink
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    Family maintains an apartment in NYC and I used to spent long periods there. People who maintain a car or a car with driver do so because they can afford it, or because their jobs provide one for them. People with cars or drivers in NYC don't have to spend on that, but they do.

    DarkOz according to his income claims, could easily afford to maintain a car or go to Atlantic City in something nicer than a bus. In Rounders even those law school kids had a car with which to go to Atlantic City. I assume DO doesn't keep a car and still travels by bus, by force of habit more than anything else. Or maybe he gets off on knowing that he is spending the absolute minimum in expenses within his business. Or maybe he has to transport a gang of employees to Atlantic City with him each trip and they won't all fit in a limo.

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    Well two out of three isn't bad.

    Force of habit. I have never taken a driving lesson. Not about to start now.

    Really don't see the value of driving. I get a lot of work done on the bus and trains.

    Spending absolute minimum. Well I suppose. I know you like fancy watches but for me a watch is to tell time. Don't need to spend ten grand to tell time.

    P.S. I don't have a fancy cell phone either. My phone costs $99. It makes phone calls, sends texts, plays video on the net, etc. Why spend $700 on an iPhone?

    The one you got wrong is needing to transport a gang of employees. First, they do the work so I don't have to go. Second they are all on independent schedules. I mean who wants a 9-5 AP gig? They show up when they want which means they all go at their own preferred hours. No way to rent a limo for them all showing up at different times.

    And not all live in NYC. Some live in Jersey, PA., Upstate NY. And those all own cars. Paid for by the nice salary I pay them doing AP for me.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 7:53:59 AM permalink
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    It is impossible to drive into New York City without paying a toll.

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    I don't think this is an accurate statement. For example, I'm pretty sure you can take I-95 from CT into Manhattan without paying a toll.
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    There are a bunch of toll free bridges linking Bronx to Manhattan or Manhattan to Queens/Brooklyn.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 8:04:04 AM permalink
    interesting cases
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    September 30th, 2021 at 8:04:09 AM permalink
    I know a friend who will do the following (this is true story)

    If you buy a $500 leather Jacket her response is "you got ripped off. I got me the same jacket for a discount. You paid too much."

    If you buy a $500 jacket on sale for $300 her response is "You always paying bargain basement prices. I make good enough money to pay full price for my stuff. Only the best for me!"

    Unfortunately I find most people are like this

    People bragging about watches that cost ten grand while complaining they better get at least full RFB and five grand shopping sprees

    I'm talking about everyone in general does this. Bragging about what they can afford while simultaneously bragging about what they snagged at a discount.

    Someone who can afford a ten grand watch can certainly afford to pay for his food and beverage I would hope.

    I can afford a limo but I choose not too. Not when I can get around for almost nothing in expenses
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    September 30th, 2021 at 8:17:56 AM permalink
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    I love it!

    Google search. “ Many people in New York don't even own a car. This might be because they do not have enough money to afford a car due to the high cost of rent in the city. Living in the city can be really expensive. This means that paying for public transportation is often the more affordable option over owning a car and driving.Sep 12, 2015”

    Yes indeed.

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    I noticed you gave no source for that quote which laughingly says "this might be .".

    (From Eurotechcare.com. https://www.eurotechcarcare.com/blog/why-don-t-more-people-drive-in-new-york- )

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    McDonald's workers in NY get paid $17 an hour now. How much do security guards get paid where you are?
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    (Not entering an argument with you but I will answer this time. McD great for them, $15 and up in the Midwest with a considerable cost of living decrease, funny huh? As far as security guards low to mid $20s depending on background and certifications held, but the perks and benefits far exceed McD and similar. I am in management and have numerous certifications and I am in a salaried position. When I do cover for any of my guys or girls out, I am receiving their pay plus my overtime which puts it in the mid $30s to $40s an hour. However, I contribute sums of money to my 401 and other savings that I get tax breaks and credits from with my extra ‘in and above my salary’ income so it’s even worth more to me.)

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    September 30th, 2021 at 9:06:10 AM permalink
    Quote: darkoz

    I know a friend who will do the following (this is true story)

    If you buy a $500 leather Jacket her response is "you got ripped off. I got me the same jacket for a discount. You paid too much."

    If you buy a $500 jacket on sale for $300 her response is "You always paying bargain basement prices. I make good enough money to pay full price for my stuff. Only the best for me!"

    Unfortunately I find most people are like this

    People bragging about watches that cost ten grand while complaining they better get at least full RFB and five grand shopping sprees

    I'm talking about everyone in general does this. Bragging about what they can afford while simultaneously bragging about what they snagged at a discount.

    Someone who can afford a ten grand watch can certainly afford to pay for his food and beverage I would hope.

    I can afford a limo but I choose not too. Not when I can get around for almost nothing in expenses

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    Your argument misconnects and mis crosses the dots.

    Playing at the level I do and RFB comps go hand in hand. And I think you'd be hard pressed to find casino RFB guests who could not afford to pay the rack rate bill.

    Being wealthy and taking the bus are incongruous. I think you're the only person on that bus who makes "$20,000 a week" (even if only, some weeks).
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    September 30th, 2021 at 9:11:49 AM permalink
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    I know a friend who will do the following (this is true story)

    If you buy a $500 leather Jacket her response is "you got ripped off. I got me the same jacket for a discount. You paid too much."

    If you buy a $500 jacket on sale for $300 her response is "You always paying bargain basement prices. I make good enough money to pay full price for my stuff. Only the best for me!"

    Unfortunately I find most people are like this

    People bragging about watches that cost ten grand while complaining they better get at least full RFB and five grand shopping sprees

    I'm talking about everyone in general does this. Bragging about what they can afford while simultaneously bragging about what they snagged at a discount.

    Someone who can afford a ten grand watch can certainly afford to pay for his food and beverage I would hope.

    I can afford a limo but I choose not too. Not when I can get around for almost nothing in expenses

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    Being wealthy and taking the bus are incongruous. I think you're the only person on that bus who makes "$20,000 a week" (even if only, some weeks).
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    This is almost certainly true. Although I don't know what that proves.
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    October 20th, 2021 at 4:22:33 AM permalink
    My friend lives in New York and has a car. He does not use public transport at all. You definitely need to make good money in order to afford to have a car in New York.
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    October 20th, 2021 at 10:27:17 AM permalink
    Quote: darkoz

    Someone who can afford a ten grand watch can certainly afford to pay for his food and beverage I would hope. I can afford a limo but I choose not too. Not when I can get around for almost nothing in expenses.



    Smart man.

    Lots of people who can afford a 10K watch get to that position in life due to a life time of moderate spending and conscientious saving.
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    October 20th, 2021 at 10:42:31 AM permalink
    And what is up with all these phone calls which start out saying "This is a friendly reminder from your dealer service center. We noticed you haven't updated your insurance..."

    I don't own a car so it takes me all of a split second to know this is a BS call but if I did own a car would I be so quick to hang up?

    What are they even selling?
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    October 20th, 2021 at 11:03:33 AM permalink
    Quote: darkoz

    And what is up with all these phone calls which start out saying "This is a friendly reminder from your dealer service center. We noticed you haven't updated your insurance..."

    I don't own a car so it takes me all of a split second to know this is a BS call but if I did own a car would I be so quick to hang up?

    What are they even selling?
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    They won't tell me.
    I press 1 to get to an agent, I wait on hold, they ask about my car, I tell them I don't own a car.

    They hang up.
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    October 20th, 2021 at 12:16:39 PM permalink
    Quote: darkoz

    And what is up with all these phone calls which start out saying "This is a friendly reminder from your dealer service center. We noticed you haven't updated your insurance..."

    I don't own a car so it takes me all of a split second to know this is a BS call but if I did own a car would I be so quick to hang up?

    What are they even selling?
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    I think they are a stealth COVID-19 pinging service that call to see if you are still alive. My take on it is if I don't drive my car in 5 to 7 days, the battery might die. So they seem to know when I'm not driving to remind me that I haven't driven in 5 days. This is in reference to the national scourge of Car Warranty calls everyone gets.
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    October 20th, 2021 at 5:52:22 PM permalink
    Quote: darkoz

    And what is up with all these phone calls which start out saying "This is a friendly reminder from your dealer service center. We noticed you haven't updated your insurance..."


    I got one of those today, but mine are never about insurance; it's always a "warning" that the warranty on my car is about to expire. Presumably, they're selling overpriced, and usually worthless, service contracts.

    Anybody else familiar with "Stanley, from your local air duct cleaning service"?

    How about a list of hotel chains where your name was drawn at random and you have won a "free" vacation?

    But going back to the original thread, what's wrong with public transportation? Earlier this month, I did a marathon by bus - pretty much literally (Ann & Tenaya to the downtown transit center, then to Water & Atlantic). Took about as long as Kipchoge did to run the Olympic marathon, too.
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    October 20th, 2021 at 5:57:17 PM permalink
    Quote: ThatDonGuy

    Quote: darkoz

    And what is up with all these phone calls which start out saying "This is a friendly reminder from your dealer service center. We noticed you haven't updated your insurance..."


    I got one of those today, but mine are never about insurance; it's always a "warning" that the warranty on my car is about to expire. Presumably, they're selling overpriced, and usually worthless, service contracts.

    Anybody else familiar with "Stanley, from your local air duct cleaning service"?

    How about a list of hotel chains where your name was drawn at random and you have won a "free" vacation?

    But going back to the original thread, what's wrong with public transportation? Earlier this month, I did a marathon by bus - pretty much literally (Ann & Tenaya to the downtown transit center, then to Water & Atlantic). Took about as long as Kipchoge did to run the Olympic marathon, too.
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    Well I think lumping public transportation altogether is the problem.

    I rarely take buses in the city because they have the same snarled traffic issues as the bumper to bumper autos.

    NYC Subway is quick and effective (of course until it isn't but so are cars. Who hasn't been stuck in traffic behind an accident or whatever)

    Technically I think airlines are public transportation although maybe not since you need an advance ticket to board. But then if that is the case, then Amtrak doesn't count as public transportation either.
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    October 21st, 2021 at 5:21:36 AM permalink
    Quote: darkoz

    Technically I think airlines are public transportation although maybe not since you need an advance ticket to board. But then if that is the case, then Amtrak doesn't count as public transportation either.
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    I always assumed that "public transportation" refers to government owned/run transportation -- city buses, subways, etc. Amtrak is subsidized by the federal gov't, but I still wouldn't call it public transportation, although opinions may vary.

    BTW, I'm taking a trip to Chicago this weekend, and plan to rely solely on public transportation (CTA/Metra) to get around (well, I might use an Uber once or twice). All of my travel costs for the weekend will come out to less than what I would pay to park a car at my hotel for 1 night!

    I have found that Chicago, NYC, and DC are places where it often makes more sense (better costs, convenience, transit time, etc.) to not have a car and use public transit.
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    November 5th, 2021 at 1:15:52 AM permalink
    I would mention only two advantages, the price and the dedicated traffic lane. The rest are only minuses, in this case it is the crowding, how it is dirty, damp and sometimes terribly cold, if it is not a cab.
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    November 5th, 2021 at 2:11:59 AM permalink
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    I had a friend who moved to South Carolina because the rent was so cheap over NYC. She ended up moving back. Why? She couldn't afford the cheap rent because her job down south was paying commensurate with living needs. In essence, lower rent, lower paying job opportunities.
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    McDonald's workers in NY get paid $17 an hour now. How much do security guards get paid where you are?
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    McDonalds pays $17 an hour in Montana now too. That’s next to poverty pretty much anywhere really. Same sign said $19 management and I’m thinking “why the hell would anyone accept a management position for a $16/day difference?”

    I’m sure the South Caroline thing WAS true whenever that was and would be true for a lack of actual high paying jobs/careers there, but no one anywhere is paying anyone $10-$12 an hour and actually hiring now. Good riddance, they shouldn’t be able to either.
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