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October 31st, 2020 at 8:15:58 AM permalink
Connery died today at age 90. When I think of James Bond he is the one I think of. Hard to think he was 90 years old.
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October 31st, 2020 at 8:38:57 AM permalink
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Connery died today at age 90. When I think of James Bond he is the one I think of. Hard to think he was 90 years old.



I can't even picture Sean Connery. I'm sure I saw im in the old James Bond role but I haven't seen those in 30 years.

I may have seen him in something more recently, but nothing is memorable.
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October 31st, 2020 at 9:20:09 AM permalink
As your attorney I recommend you watch Diamonds are Forever.

That, and Casino (also Fear and Loathing in LV), are movies I usually watch at least parts of before, during, or after each Vegas trip. This trip I even got my wife to watch most of Fear and Loathing with me the other night while we were here in Vegas.
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October 31st, 2020 at 9:33:58 AM permalink
I don’t even picture Sean Connery when I think of Sean Connery, I picture someone pretending to be Sean Connery in the celebrity Jeopardy skit on SNL where Will Ferrell plays Alex Trebek.
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October 31st, 2020 at 9:39:21 AM permalink
Every baccarat table in the US ought to post a photo of him as Bond.
He put the game on the map as far as the general public was concerned.
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October 31st, 2020 at 9:47:30 AM permalink
I was never a big Bond fan, but loved him in The Man Who Would Be King. I have a poster from The Rock signed by Ed Harris,Nick Cage and Mr. Connery.
Another great movie he did that is rarely seen is The Molly Maguires, a tale of a secret society in the 1890s, formed to fight oppressive mine owners in Pennsylvania.
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October 31st, 2020 at 10:52:00 AM permalink
I remember when Sean Connery said he was getting too old for the role so he retired from doing James Bond
So
The producers get Roger Moore as a replacement, who is older then Sean Connery
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October 31st, 2020 at 9:47:28 PM permalink
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October 31st, 2020 at 10:09:20 PM permalink
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November 1st, 2020 at 7:40:45 AM permalink
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As your attorney I recommend you watch Diamonds are Forever.



DAF gets a bad rap but it is my favorite Bond film. Isn't the guy at the water balloons Jay Sarno? I heard he got a cameo.

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November 1st, 2020 at 8:21:53 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I was never a big Bond fan, but loved him in The Man Who Would Be King. I have a poster from The Rock signed by Ed Harris,Nick Cage and Mr. Connery.
Another great movie he did that is rarely seen is The Molly Maguires, a tale of a secret society in the 1890s, formed to fight oppressive mine owners in Pennsylvania.




Connery was my Bond. We had a discussion about Yuengling on another board. I bring that up here because The Molly Maguires was about miners who sabotaged mines due to the terrible working conditions that existed. They were held in jail and executed in Pottsville, which is the home of the Yuengling brewery, about nine miles down the road from my home town.
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November 1st, 2020 at 8:24:35 AM permalink
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DAF gets a bad rap but it is my favorite Bond film. Isn't the guy at the water balloons Jay Sarno? I heard he got a cameo.

Who wouldn't want to stay at The Whyte House?



Despite all the great Bond theme songs, "Diamonds are Forever" is my favorite of the Bond themes.
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November 1st, 2020 at 9:18:25 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

DAF gets a bad rap but it is my favorite Bond film. Isn't the guy at the water balloons Jay Sarno? I heard he got a cameo.

Who wouldn't want to stay at The Whyte House?



Maybe it has to do with the genre (Vegas) but I love Diamonds are Forever too. I've rewatched it probably more times than most Bond films, although...I really like On Her Majesty's Secret Service too, and think George Lazenby was a great Bond.

Jay Sarno played a side show barker in Diamonds, the scientist who introduces Zambora, the black girl who turns into a gorilla.



I understand that Sarno routinely acted as a real ringmaster at Circus Circus, which he developed and owned along with Caesar's.

Sarno at his desk in 1968.
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November 1st, 2020 at 9:23:51 AM permalink
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Despite all the great Bond theme songs, "Diamonds are Forever" is my favorite of the Bond themes.



When I saw the craps scene and understood what Connery, er, Bond was saying — full odds, hardway, all the numbers — I was quite pleased with my casino ken.
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November 1st, 2020 at 10:02:39 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Maybe it has to do with the genre (Vegas) but I love Diamonds are Forever too. I've rewatched it probably more times than most Bond films, although...I really like On Her Majesty's Secret Service too, and think George Lazenby was a great Bond.



It was supposedly set in Vegas to get the American audience. Every few Bond movies they seemed to go back to the USA for this reason. I like it both for that and the ruthless Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd. The scene where they kill her yet take some pictures of the canals "for the children" well they do not make assassins like that anymore.

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Jay Sarno played a side show barker in Diamonds, the scientist who introduces Zambora, the black girl who turns into a gorilla.



Thanks! I knew he played something IIRC it was both uncredited and a "sweetner" for using Circus!Circus! for filming.
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November 1st, 2020 at 10:25:10 AM permalink
"If God had wanted man to fly...."



"He would have given him wings, Mr. Kidd."
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November 1st, 2020 at 10:37:56 AM permalink
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"If God had wanted man to fly...."



"He would have given him wings, Mr. Kidd."



Who is Shady Tree supposed to be a spoof of?
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November 1st, 2020 at 10:42:15 AM permalink
I actually looked into that once. Shady Tree was played by Leonard Barr, who was himself a stand up comic, but I don't know if Barr's act was the same as Shady's.

I never read the Diamonds book, but I understand there was character in it named Michael (Shady) Tree, a gangster, that had something to do with the New York end of the diamond smuggling operation. None of that New York story line was used for the movie.
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November 1st, 2020 at 11:03:58 AM permalink
There may be exceptions, but you could break the movies up into expected scenes.

- getting assignment, usually aggravating his boss
-flirting with money penny
-briefing on weapons with demonstrations
-meeting the “bond” girl
- usually at least two attempts on his life
- getting captured. doesn’t he always end up captured at some point.
- blowing s—- up.
- car chase
- romantic interlude / often with villain girl

- winning the day, usually killing the supervillain

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November 1st, 2020 at 11:15:13 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

There may be exceptions, but you could break the movies up into expected scenes.

- getting assignment, usually aggravating his boss
-flirting with money penny
-briefing on weapons with demonstrations
-meeting the “bond” girl
- usually at least two attempts on his life
- getting captured. doesn’t he always end up captured at some point.
- blowing s—- up.
- car chase
- romantic interlude / often with villain girl

- winning the day, usually killing the supervillain

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You forgot the dialogue after 007 gets captured: "Before I kill you, Mr. Bond, let me tell you my plan…"
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November 1st, 2020 at 4:05:15 PM permalink
My favorite Sean Connery Bond movies were:

1. You only live twice
2. Goldfinger
3. Diamonds are forever

However, I'm in the Roger Moore generation. Not saying he is "better," but he is my Bond.
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November 1st, 2020 at 4:22:39 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

My favorite Sean Connery Bond movies were:

1. You only live twice
2. Goldfinger
3. Diamonds are forever

However, I'm in the Roger Moore generation. Not saying he is "better," but he is my Bond.



Which was the first Bond movie you remember? I think usually that determines it.
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November 1st, 2020 at 7:30:00 PM permalink
I was always partial to “From Russia With Love”. The fight sequence between Bond (Connery) and the Robert Shaw character on the Orient Express train is riveting. It’s probably the least “over-the-top” Bond film that’s been made.
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November 1st, 2020 at 9:06:53 PM permalink
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Which was the first Bond movie you remember? I think usually that determines it.



When I was between the ages of about 8 to 12 I would watch whatever Bond movie that came on TV, which were all Sean Connery ones. The three I liked best were the ones I just mentioned.

However, the first I saw in a theater I think was Moonraker. Since I got to the theater on my own and paid with my own money, I considered Moore to be my bond, where as Sean Connery was my father's Bond.
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November 1st, 2020 at 9:42:29 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

When I was between the ages of about 8 to 12 I would watch whatever Bond movie that came on TV, which were all Sean Connery ones. The three I liked best were the ones I just mentioned.

However, the first I saw in a theater I think was Moonraker. Since I got to the theater on my own and paid with my own money, I considered Moore to be my bond, where as Sean Connery was my father's Bond.



I remember it was a big event when Moonraker was the ABC Movie of the Night. (My family rarely saw movies in the theater.)

So Richard Kiel ("Jaws") was "my" Bond villain.
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November 2nd, 2020 at 3:34:27 AM permalink
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I was always partial to “From Russia With Love”. The fight sequence between Bond (Connery) and the Robert Shaw character on the Orient Express train is riveting. It’s probably the least “over-the-top” Bond film that’s been made.



I just cannot watch the newer ones they seem so over the top. I tried watching "SPECTRE" but maybe I am also just getting to be one of those old guys who cannot get much into newer movies in general. But the newer Bonds just do not play to me. I think the last one I liked at all was "License to Kill." Hiding cocaine in gasoline is probably not realistic but it was not as over the top a a North Korean having plastic surgery to look like a Brit.
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November 2nd, 2020 at 5:32:39 AM permalink
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I remember it was a big event when Moonraker was the ABC Movie of the Night. (My family rarely saw movies in the theater.)

So Richard Kiel ("Jaws") was "my" Bond villain.



Yes! I never missed a Bond movie when they came on. Just loved the Bond theme at the beginning and always some kind of exciting beginning.

Yes, wasn't Jaws great!

Trivia time! Besides Jaws, what other villain henchmen changed sides? I can think of only one, I'll put in spoilers, but are there others?

The sidekick of the villain in A View to a Kill, played by Grace Jones. Can't remember the character name.
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November 2nd, 2020 at 5:45:24 AM permalink
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Yes! I never missed a Bond movie when they came on. Just loved the Bond theme at the beginning and always some kind of exciting beginning.

Yes, wasn't Jaws great!

Trivia time! Besides Jaws, what other villain henchmen changed sides? I can think of only one, I'll put in spoilers, but are there others?

The sidekick of the villain in A View to a Kill, played by Grace Jones. Can't remember the character name.



What about Tiffany Case?
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November 2nd, 2020 at 6:06:40 AM permalink
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Trivia time! Besides Jaws, what other villain henchmen changed sides? I can think of only one, I'll put in spoilers, but are there others?



Pussy Galore?! :)
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November 2nd, 2020 at 7:25:11 AM permalink
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Pussy Galore?! :)



I must be dreaming. Yes, the best name ever of a Bond villain ever. To be honest I forgot she switched sides. However, it's coming back to me...

As I recall she was supposed to spray sleeping gas on Fort Knox from her plane, but it was inert and the soldiers faked falling asleep. However, I don't recall why she flipped.

Need to watch that one again. That movie had a such good slow pacing, unlike today.
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November 2nd, 2020 at 8:43:14 AM permalink
I was 14 when Diamonds are Forever made it into theaters. The shot of Jill St. John lounging on the couch (it was in the trailer, if you want to look) was all I needed to never forget.
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November 2nd, 2020 at 8:49:55 AM permalink
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I was 14 when Diamonds are Forever made it into theaters. The shot of Jill St. John lounging on the couch (it was in the trailer, if you want to look) was all I needed to never forget.



Wow, you are older than I imagined. I pictured you as a 48 year old.
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November 2nd, 2020 at 8:55:15 AM permalink
I think 'Diamonds are Forever' is the only Bond movie I have never seen.

'From Russia With Love' has been my favorite along with Lazenby's 'On Her Majesty's SS'. I do like the Daniel Craig films, particularly SkyFall.

Has their ever been a movie franchise with better songs than Bond?
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November 2nd, 2020 at 11:11:25 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Yes! I never missed a Bond movie when they came on. Just loved the Bond theme at the beginning and always some kind of exciting beginning.

Yes, wasn't Jaws great!

Trivia time! Besides Jaws, what other villain henchmen changed sides? I can think of only one, I'll put in spoilers, but are there others?

The sidekick of the villain in A View to a Kill, played by Grace Jones. Can't remember the character name.



Often overlooked is actress Maud Adams character flip in "Man With The Golden Gun".

After stealing Scaramanga's sun gun key she gets a golden bullet to the heart, leaving her mannequin-like dead where Bond finds her at the Japanese Boxing matches.

Her theft and murder are offscreen which is perhaps why people forget her role.

Trivia, Maud Adams became the only female to play two main but different Bond characters when she later portrayed Octopussy (Is Octopussy a profanity?)
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November 2nd, 2020 at 11:15:23 AM permalink
Kill Bill wasn't rated X.

Update: Uma Thurman Says She Was Dehumanized ‘to the Point of Death’ While Filming Kill Bill
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This Is Why Uma Thurman Is Angry
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November 2nd, 2020 at 11:44:53 AM permalink
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Often overlooked is actress Maud Adams character flip in "Man With The Golden Gun".

After stealing Scaramanga's sun gun key she gets a golden bullet to the heart, leaving her mannequin-like dead where Bond finds her at the Japanese Boxing matches.

Her theft and murder are offscreen which is perhaps why people forget her role.

I'm not sure if she would be considered a "henchman" (or "henchwoman?") since she didn't (that we know of) do any of Scaramanga's dirty work. Also, she was against Scaramanga from the beginning of the film when she sends Bond the gold bullet with his name number on it.

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Is Octopussy a profanity?

I'm not sure, but if you watch towards the end of the film when Louis Jourdan's character, Kamal Khan, is trying to reassure Octopussy that he really wasn't trying to vaporize her, he says her name twice. It really looks like he is trying to stifle a smile. Like even he can't say "Octopussy" with a straight face!
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I'm not sure if she would be considered a "henchman" (or "henchwoman?") since she didn't (that we know of) do any of Scaramanga's dirty work. Also, she was against Scaramanga from the beginning of the film when she sends Bond the gold bullet with his name number on it.

I'm not sure, but if you watch towards the end of the film when Louis Jourdan's character, Kamal Khan, is trying to reassure Octopussy that he really wasn't trying to vaporize her, he says her name twice. It really looks like he is trying to stifle a smile. Like even he can't say "Octopussy" with a straight face!



Besides being Scaramanga's lover, it is her character that does some of the transactions to obtain bullets if I remember correctly. Including doing a transfer at a gambling location where boxes are lowered to patrons on the floor (what's that all about?).

So I think that qualifies as doing some of the dirty work.

She did send the bullet but that just makes her flipping in advance of the story proper.

Imo she qualifies
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