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crazyiam
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November 22nd, 2010 at 1:34:09 PM permalink
How do people leave out The Hustler and the Cincinnati Kid.
mkl654321
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November 22nd, 2010 at 3:02:15 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

In an earlier post, I mentioned "A Big Hand for the Little Lady" and said the game had some tough table rules. The main one was that a player must meet the wager or fold, leaving his previous bets in the pot, in contrast to the real-world conditions that you cite. That well-discussed table rule, was key to the plot.



Sure. But that movie was about a con, not a poker game as such. It was also a comedy, and the twist was actually a parody of the non-rule that was already a trope in Hollywood poker scenes, that the villain could pull a squiilion dollars out of his vest pocket and force the hero, who had already put all his money in the pot, to fold. So the villain is hoisted on his own petard when a "banker" just happens to show up.

My favorite moment in that movie is at the very end, when Joanne Woodward sits down to another poker game and expertly shuffles and riffles the deck.
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AZDuffman
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November 22nd, 2010 at 4:18:42 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Well, it certainly looked nothing like the Stardust or any other casino I was in circa late 70's. The ceilings were generally low, the gambling areas smaller than today and really smokey. I never saw anybody acting like gangsters, although there were tough looking guys in suits in some casinos. When I watch 'Casino' I never think of Vegas at all.



It wouldn't look like the Stardust because:

1. The inside scenes were filmed across the street at the Rivera and the outside scenes look to have been filmed at the Flamingo
2. It's a movie, not a doccumentary.

No one in a movie is going to build a whole casino-set for a few scenes. IRL, gangsters are not going to act like gangsters on the floor. To your statement that "when you watch 'Casino' you never think of Vegas at all" I would say you are the only one.

This is all I have to say on this since you are starting to talk like the poster a few months back who wanted to argue the meaning of "destroyed" in regards to Detroit.
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pacomartin
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November 22nd, 2010 at 4:45:55 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

Sure. But that movie was about a con, not a poker game as such. It was also a comedy, and the twist was actually a parody of the non-rule that was already a trope in Hollywood poker scenes, that the villain could pull a squiilion dollars out of his vest pocket and force the hero, who had already put all his money in the pot, to fold. So the villain is hoisted on his own petard when a "banker" just happens to show up.



Hoist on his own petard is a 400 year old phrase that people use, usually without knowing what it means. It is a line from the same work that I could be bounded by a nutshell, and count myself king of the world, were it not that I have bad dreams and sweets to the sweet and in my mind's eye comes from.

Of course, google has ruined trivia games.
Ayecarumba
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November 22nd, 2010 at 5:07:09 PM permalink
I recently watched the Robert Redford directed, "A River Runs Through It" for the first time. If you haven't seen it, it's a biographical period piece about two son's of a Presbyterian minister growing up in prohibition era Montana. Brad Pitt 's character, the younger brother, Paul, is addicted to gambling. The film is beautifully shot, and won an Oscar for Cinematography in 1993.
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mkl654321
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November 22nd, 2010 at 6:16:19 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

Hoist on his own petard is a 400 year old phrase that people use, usually without knowing what it means. It is a line from the same work that I could be bounded by a nutshell, and count myself king of the world, were it not that I have bad dreams and sweets to the sweet and in my mind's eye comes from.

Of course, google has ruined trivia games.



Who needs Google? It's an odds-on bet that if you are wondering where a particular turn of phrase came from, it was probably Shakespeare.

The phrase refers to what happens when you cut the fuse too short.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
Doc
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November 22nd, 2010 at 7:13:29 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

Doc, I think you are thinking of 4 for Texas (1963) one of the more by the book Rat Pack comedies.

Excellent, Mr. Martin! I checked this title in IMDB. I didn't remember that the film actually was about opening a casino.
boymimbo
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November 22nd, 2010 at 7:33:35 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

I like depressing gambling movies. The reality of losing is far more interesting than the fantasy of winning.

Hard Eight was pretty good. Gotta love Phil Hoffman in an early bit role as an obnoxious craps player! I didn't like The Cooler. It tried to hard to make the main character pathetic. The best movie was "Owning Mahoney." Very little gambling action, but showed the downward spiral into addiction very well: "You know you just brought a curse to this table."

"Yonkers Joe" is a good movie and I think one of the few dice-only flicks. It was shot at the Plaza.



- Mahowny is a great movie as it has gambling and Toronto and is based on real life.
- Nicholas Cage and Elizabeth Shue in Leaving Las Vegas... depressing movie but the pool scene is pretty hot.
- Casino is a great movie.
- Vegas Vacation is very funny. I usually comment after a long losing streak "I just got Griswold".
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Morphius
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November 29th, 2010 at 3:41:51 AM permalink
Every poker player loves rounders... truly a good film and Matt Damon (i hear that name and think Team America) at his best!

one that is stretching it a little is the good old bond Casino Royale... epic film from the best british spy!

must get round to watching Casino though... been on my Must Watch list for years now!
clarkacal
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February 8th, 2011 at 6:37:00 PM permalink
Where is "The Hustler" and "Cincinnati Kid"?

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