Women within casino history
It just strikes me as a bit odd that I cant think of a name, or even a picture or even a saying that might relate to any prominent women.
IIRC only one woman ever in the Black Book.
Virginia Hill????
Quote: darkozLady Luck?
you were joking but this is the answer i was looking for without even knowing it
take my word for it darkoz, i have a plan that will help you with your movie career in a way you would never expect but its going to take me a few years to see if i can get a patent for what im creating and if i cant get the patent the plan will be set into action no matter what. just please stay healthy and dont get the rona because its going to be YUGE. thats all i can say for now
Quote: heatmapyou were joking but this is the answer i was looking for without even knowing it
take my word for it darkoz, i have a plan that will help you with your movie career in a way you would never expect but its going to take me a few years to see if i can get a patent for what im creating and if i cant get the patent the plan will be set into action no matter what. just please stay healthy and dont get the rona because its going to be YUGE. thats all i can say for now
I guess.
Remind me in a few years
I would think the pay/tips as a cocktail waitress would be more lucrative than being a host, but it may not be worth wearing those outfits and being on your feet all day at 50+ years old.
JuicyJenny
That’s all I can come up with
Renamed: Vegas Vickie
Personal favorite : Savannah!
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/film-cheung-yin-kelly-sun-worlds-successful-female-gambler-works-1187039
The unnamed chick who said Steve Wynn pinched her bottom 20 years ago and got him removed from being CEO of his own company.
Quote: Indy70
Personal favorite : Savannah!
Savannah won (or took) lots of money from Roullette.
Quote: DRichSavannah won (or took) lots of money from Roullette.
I personally took the name Savannah as another name for Nathan, and will now be googleing who savannah is for real.
On a side note, I once was "friends" with a girl named savannah. When I was younger, she invited me to a party at her house and this wasn't too crazy of a party in my opinion, but people might disagree. Anyways I woke up to her father (5X bigger than anyone at the house to begin with) picking me up off the floor i was sleeping on by my shirt, because the first time he told me to get up I rolled over and told him no.
Quote: heatmapI personally took the name Savannah as another name for Nathan, and will now be googleing who savannah is for real.
On a side note, I once was "friends" with a girl named savannah. When I was younger, she invited me to a party at her house and this wasn't too crazy of a party in my opinion, but people might disagree. Anyways I woke up to her father (5X bigger than anyone at the house to begin with) picking me up off the floor i was sleeping on by my shirt, because the first time he told me to get up I rolled over and told him no.
No need.
Savannah is a past-posting move by casino cheat Richard Marcus.
He named after a stripper named Savannah who was servicing him the night he came up with it.
The move was designed to avoid detection from cameras which were just being installed during his career.
That should help you look it up if you want to understand the actual move mechanics
Quote: darkoz
That should help you look it up if you want to understand the actual move mechanics
Having a vewy vewy quick, and undetectable bet increase or decrease...?
Quote: heatmapHaving a vewy vewy quick, and undetectable bet increase or decrease...?
No.
The gist was he bet a chocolate$5,000chip but put the high chip under a few five dollar chips in as angled a position as he could so the dealer didn't see the bottom chip.
If he lost he swiped out the loser replacing the bottom high denom for another $5 chip. The dealer swept away $20 instead of $5015.
If he won though (he usually picked a column for a ten Grand payout) then when the dealer went to pay his $20, he would scream and point out the bottom chip. He would be very careful not to touch it.
Hugely suspicious surveillance would check the tapes and clearly he had a legit bet. It was there the whole time.
He was banking on the idea that surveillance didn't bother checking the losing wagers. Only the questionable winning ones
Quote: heatmapHaving a vewy vewy quick, and undetectable bet increase or decrease...?
Oh wait the guy who acted like he won money and since they confirmed the win they actually had to pay him
Quote: heatmapOh wait the guy who acted like he won money and since they confirmed the win they actually had to pay him
Yeah correct.
He made legit bets. He did the switch when he lost.
If he won the tapes actually backed up his claim.
Classic example of surveillance technology being used against the casino.
I believe they did refuse to pay him once because they were so suspicious and the gaming authority came looked at the tape and said they had to pay.
Quote: darkozYeah correct.
He made legit bets. He did the switch when he lost.
If he won the tapes actually backed up his claim.
Classic example of surveillance technology being used against the casino.
I believe they did refuse to pay him once because they were so suspicious and the gaming authority came looked at the tape and said they had to pay.
Yeah my memory of whatever I read before was that he simply “made up” a bet. He would “act” like he had won. The dealer would “play along” and even though he didn’t bet the money, since the dealer actually confirmed the win, they eventually had to pay him in court because the dealer actually confirmed the win when they acted like the bet was there, although no money was ever bet in my story. This makes much more sense than the one I heard and it makes much more sense that the story I heard was a variation of this one which has many more google results that confirm the story.
So the story I know is there was a drunk guy making up bets. The number 17 would come out and he would act really excited. He would say I won and talk to the dealer until they confirmed the “win”. Doesn’t even add up compared to this story haha
Quote: heatmapYeah my memory of whatever I read before was that he simply “made up” a bet. He would “act” like he had won. The dealer would “play along” and even though he didn’t bet the money, since the dealer actually confirmed the win, they eventually had to pay him in court because the dealer actually confirmed the win when they acted like the bet was there, although no money was ever bet in my story. This makes much more sense than the one I heard and it makes much more sense that the story I heard was a variation of this one which has many more google results that confirm the story.
So the story I know is there was a drunk guy making up bets. The number 17 would come out and he would act really excited. He would say I won and talk to the dealer until they confirmed the “win”. Doesn’t even add up compared to this story haha
The bets were real.
The dealer was not in on it.
There was a drunk act but that was cover in case he was seen after the losing wagers touching the chips during the switch. He would just act like he was stupid and drunk for having touched the chips early. Happily put the chips back (switched of course)
Quote: darkozNo need.
Savannah is a past-posting move by casino cheat Richard Marcus.
He named after a stripper named Savannah who was servicing him the night he came up with it.
The move was designed to avoid detection from cameras which were just being installed during his career.
That should help you look it up if you want to understand the actual move mechanics
I’ve played lots of roulette.
At what point after a spin do you have the opportunity to change a chip on your bet?
Quote: michael99000I’ve played lots of roulette.
At what point after a spin do you have the opportunity to change a chip on your bet?
With the Savannah technique I believe you do it right as the ball lands because everyone is watching the ball.
Quote: michael99000I’ve played lots of roulette.
At what point after a spin do you have the opportunity to change a chip on your bet?
It was a two man attack.
A Confederate stood right at the wheel. If the spin lost he screamed how he should have won, hopefully getting the dealers attention.
Meanwhile the person doing the Savannah stood at the far end where the three column bets are sideways. He would make the switch at first sign his friend started yelling it was a loser. If he got caught touching the chips it was a loser so the dealer would just say "Hey, you can't touch those". He was acting drunk and would apologize, putting the chips back sans the big one of course.
Otoh, if the Confederate signalled a winning spin all Richard had to do was wait to get paid then make a big stink if the dealer still didn't see the big chip under the small ones.
The real trick to making it work was the angle of the chips so that the dealer didn't notice a very large one under the small ones.
That way if he caught Richard picking up the losing wager he saw Richard putting back what he thought was the original wager.
The dealer is supposed to announce to the pit when large denoms play before the spin so when seeing the winning high denom chip he would have to call over the pitboss who would ask surveillance to check if the chips were switched which of course they were not.
Again otoh, when it was a loser the dealer just swept away the (now small) wager and no pitboss or surveillance was called
https://www.deadwood.com/history/infamous-deadwood/poker-alice-tubbs/
Obviously exaggerated numbers but can this happen without cheating? $250,000 in 1930 is worth $3,838,158.68 today. Natural poker skill with no training material required?
Maybe one day, I’ll blog about my 1996 visits.
