Mission146
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May 10th, 2019 at 9:52:52 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg


This envelope for tips in casino resort hotels with the name of the maid on it is something relatively new I think. Maybe in the past decade?



The idea of it is the person who actually cleaned your room will end up with the tip. In practice, I would suggest that it usually gets pocketed by whatever housekeeper ends up cleaning the room after you, unless there is a housekeeping supervisor who is hyper-vigilant about that sort of thing...if there is, then half the time it gets to the right person and the other half the supervisor probably just takes it.

I just leave it out at the end of my stay. As far as who actually gets the tips and who doesn't, it all balances out in the long run.
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May 10th, 2019 at 9:53:53 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Why should I pay more for a job I expect to meet a certain standard anyway? There should be an option box. You want extra special service, or standard service. You pay for standard service it should meet a acceptable standard. You want special, you tip.



There's not going to be some bizarre scheme involving filling out forms to determine your level of service in case you are extremely cheap and want to save $1.75 and not get your drinks filled. Plus the time and cost involved with the forms would have to be paid for with higher prices. And every customer other than you would think the restaurant was being run by a mad man when they were handed the form.

RS explained exhaustively, the labor costs have to be paid some way. Either tips or higher prices. The standard tips are for standard service. If the service is excellent you go a bit higher.

At the end of the day, we could do away with tips, destroy millions of middle class jobs, get lower quality service and... maybe you'd save like 2% at restaurants.
rxwine
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May 10th, 2019 at 9:54:13 AM permalink
i donít see why everyone shouldnít work for tips since it is so great.
So, why not have a place on the bill for the cost of the steak dinner, the tip for waiter, and a spot for the owner of the fine restaurant. He puts his suggested take as profit and you pay what you think it was worth.

His profit is of course what he wants to keep after expenses. Are things in good repair, is the place clean, nice decor...etc.,
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May 10th, 2019 at 9:55:21 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Couple of bucks. I usually don't get daily maid service so I tip when I check out. Usually leave whatever change or small tickets plus something.



How, "Small," are the tickets? If I was a housekeeper and the ticket is for less than $1, you can save me time by throwing it in the trash directly instead of having me do it.
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May 10th, 2019 at 10:10:25 AM permalink
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"More than nothing," is usually enough to keep them around, often minimum wage. I hope your room doesn't look like the rooms of some AP's I know by the time you leave, or you should really consider tipping more than nothing.



I leave a pretty undisturbed room. But that's not the point. When did it become customary to tip on hotel rooms?
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May 10th, 2019 at 10:15:13 AM permalink
I think a lot of people like the tipping culture because it gives them a feeling of superiority to the people they are tipping. Not all or even most, but for many an ego stroke they need. Itís also they entire reason a lot of jobs stil exist like doormen, many administrative assistant/secretary type jobs, possibly corporate lawyers, some middle management positions.
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May 10th, 2019 at 10:25:46 AM permalink
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I leave a pretty undisturbed room. But that's not the point. When did it become customary to tip on hotel rooms?


I generally stay at a Vegas Hotel on Christmas. For some reason, i feel I need to tip and tip big
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May 10th, 2019 at 10:30:29 AM permalink
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I leave a pretty undisturbed room. But that's not the point. When did it become customary to tip on hotel rooms?



I wouldn't have the answer to that without having to look it up, or something. As far as I know, it's been customary to tip the housekeeper a few bucks at least on the day you check out for as long as I have been staying at hotels.

Either way, it's the same as anything else. Suppose the average housekeeper makes an, "Extra," $2/hour just off of tips. If someone were to get rid of the tipping custom, (How would that even happen? Make it illegal?) the hotel owner is likely going to increase the housekeeper's hourly wage by a dollar and they're all going to increase room rates by $5 a night even though a housekeeper should be cleaning 2-3 rooms in an hour.

Let's see what happens:

Housekeeper: +$1/hour (wage) -$2/hour (tips) = -$1/hour
Guest: +$5/stay (tips) - $5/night (room cost) = $0 or a loss depending how many nights stayed
Hotel Owner: -$1/hour (wage) + $5/room night = +$4.50 (or more depending on length of stay)

So, how any of this became the standard I don't know, but what I do know is that if you get rid of the tipping standard, in most cases, business owners are going to be the only ones to benefit.
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May 10th, 2019 at 10:50:33 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I wouldn't have the answer to that without having to look it up, or something. As far as I know, it's been customary to tip the housekeeper a few bucks at least on the day you check out for as long as I have been staying at hotels.

Either way, it's the same as anything else. Suppose the average housekeeper makes an, "Extra," $2/hour just off of tips. If someone were to get rid of the tipping custom, (How would that even happen? Make it illegal?) the hotel owner is likely going to increase the housekeeper's hourly wage by a dollar and they're all going to increase room rates by $5 a night even though a housekeeper should be cleaning 2-3 rooms in an hour.

Let's see what happens:

Housekeeper: +$1/hour (wage) -$2/hour (tips) = -$1/hour
Guest: +$5/stay (tips) - $5/night (room cost) = $0 or a loss depending how many nights stayed
Hotel Owner: -$1/hour (wage) + $5/room night = +$4.50 (or more depending on length of stay)

So, how any of this became the standard I don't know, but what I do know is that if you get rid of the tipping standard, in most cases, business owners are going to be the only ones to benefit.



I'm not buying that. I wonder what percent of people tip on hotel rooms to begin with. I don't think there's a standard for hotels like there is for restaurants.
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May 10th, 2019 at 11:08:59 AM permalink
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An Outback server gets no tip on a $735 takeout order, complains ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../an-outback-server-gets-no-tip-on-a-735-takeout-ord...
Feb 12, 2018 - But when the Christian megachurch that ordered it didn't leave a tip, Yoder spoke out in frustration on Facebook ó and promptly lost her job



I'm guessing a take out order doesn't take as much work getting out, but that doesn't mean it requires no tip at all considering this is way more than 1 or 2 dinners in a package.
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