Rigondeaux
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February 14th, 2019 at 10:53:56 AM permalink
Yeah, casino employees are often the worst, which is strange since they see people get masacred all day long. There is a poker dealer at binions who became a supe at Bellagio. Good dealer, and a very bright funny guy. If he sat in the game it was Christmas. If he ran hot, he'd still just stay till it was gone. He'd drop thousands a session playing blackjack. Must have lost at least 40% of his income.

One more point I'd make. Because, I know people will say, "what's wrong with spending money on something you enjoy? You pay for XYZ!"

There are many sites where you can play for free, or for pennies. You can play BJ and machines for very low stakes. I like to travel. If there was a site that gave away free airline tickets and hotels, I wouldn't instead go to the sites where I have to pay hundreds. If I could get free movie tickets, I wouldn't opt to pay double face value instead.

It's a primarily a weird compulsion to lose money.
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February 14th, 2019 at 11:02:47 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Yeah, casino employees are often the worst, which is strange since they see people get masacred all day long. There is a poker dealer at binions who became a supe at Bellagio. Good dealer, and a very bright funny guy. If he sat in the game it was Christmas. If he ran hot, he'd still just stay till it was gone. He'd drop thousands a session playing blackjack. Must have lost at least 40% of his income.

One more point I'd make. Because, I know people will say, "what's wrong with spending money on something you enjoy? You pay for XYZ!"

There are many sites where you can play for free, or for pennies. You can play BJ and machines for very low stakes. I like to travel. If there was a site that gave away free airline tickets and hotels, I wouldn't instead go to the sites where I have to pay hundreds. If I could get free movie tickets, I wouldn't opt to pay double face value instead.

It's a primarily a weird compulsion to lose money.




There's no "juice" or endorphin release when playing for free - there has to be a risk
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February 14th, 2019 at 11:53:15 AM permalink
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I can't remember where I read it, but it's understood in the industry that the chairs are often peed in, especially the slots. People just won't get up and leave them sometimes.



When the Beau Rivage opened in Biloxi they had a woman that sat in the same chair for close to 48 hours without ever getting up. They replaced the chair when she left.
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February 14th, 2019 at 11:59:36 AM permalink
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There's no "juice" or endorphin release when playing for free - there has to be a risk



That's what I'm sayin. People are addicted to risking, and losing significant amounts of money because, among other reasons, it gives them a high. IMO that = problem gambler if done with any regularity.
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February 14th, 2019 at 1:26:13 PM permalink
Many years ago I just started dating a woman and I asked her if she wanted to go out and play Blackjack. She didn't have a lot of money but we were able to find a $5 table at Mandalay Bay. We were having a good time and I mentioned that I was going to Lake Tahoe the next week. I asked her if she would like to go with me. She said no because she couldn't afford it. I offered to pay for her airfare but she refused to let me do that.

We are both playing and having fun. She is playing $5 and I am playing $25. I am slowly losing. I asked her that if I won enough at Blackjack tonight to pay for her airfare, would she go? She agreed to go if I won the airfare. I continue to lose slowly and she excuses herself to the bathroom. While she is gone I buy in for another $500. When she gets back she sees all of my chips and asked what happened? I said that I went on a roll and won the $250 for her airfare to Lake Tahoe. She was shocked that I "won" it so fast and I am not sure that she was happy about it. I really don't think she wanted to go to Lake Tahoe with me.

A few years later, after we were married, I told her the truth that I didn't actually win the money for Lake Tahoe.
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February 14th, 2019 at 1:34:57 PM permalink
And if I know women, she probably said she knew it the whole time.
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February 14th, 2019 at 2:04:41 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Many years ago I just started dating a woman and I asked her if she wanted to go out and play Blackjack. She didn't have a lot of money but we were able to find a $5 table at Mandalay Bay. We were having a good time and I mentioned that I was going to Lake Tahoe the next week. I asked her if she would like to go with me. She said no because she couldn't afford it. I offered to pay for her airfare but she refused to let me do that.

We are both playing and having fun. She is playing $5 and I am playing $25. I am slowly losing. I asked her that if I won enough at Blackjack tonight to pay for her airfare, would she go? She agreed to go if I won the airfare. I continue to lose slowly and she excuses herself to the bathroom. While she is gone I buy in for another $500. When she gets back she sees all of my chips and asked what happened? I said that I went on a roll and won the $250 for her airfare to Lake Tahoe. She was shocked that I "won" it so fast and I am not sure that she was happy about it. I really don't think she wanted to go to Lake Tahoe with me.

A few years later, after we were married, I told her the truth that I didn't actually win the money for Lake Tahoe.

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February 14th, 2019 at 2:39:30 PM permalink
Lots of interesting stories, here is mine.
Setting: May 2016 the Charlo Brothers boxing card at the Chelsea (Cosmo). Jermell fought Charles Hatley; Jermall fought Austin Trout – sold out event. Was sitting in the mezzanine seats with good friend Frankie Stones (he has had a lot of kidney stone attacks over the years). The three seats to my immediate right were unoccupied for all the undercard fights so Stones and I spread out from our seats into the unoccupied seats to gain more leg and arm room. As the second co-main event is about to get started I notice all the heads of guys in the seats in front of us turn to the right – Stones says “must be a celebrity coming up the stairs” – I said no, a celeb would be seated ringside. Up the stairs comes a muscular guy in his late 40s early 50s with tats of guns, knives and red boxing gloves all over his arms and neck. With him are two young girls (early 20s) that are dressed in outfits that leave little to the imagination so it is now clear why all the head turning was going on. I tell Stones to move back to our seats as the Uncle and his two Nieces have the three seats we had spread out into.
Nieces 1 and 2 sit in the two seats to my immediate right and Uncle takes the third seat two seats away from me. During the third round, I notice Niece 1 (who is sitting to my immediate right) is doubled over in her seat with her head down and arms lowered and taking flash pictures with her phone. I remember saying to myself, she must have gotten new shoes for the fight tonight and wants to get some pictures of them. After the round ends, Niece 1 taps me on the arm and says “Sir, can you look at these pictures and tell me which one is the best one”. I say sure, she hands me the phone and there are three pictures and they are not pictures of shoes. I tell her, “Yep it’s all there, I think the second picture has the best lighting and is the clearest”. She says, “That’s what I thought, thanks – I’m sending this picture to my boyfriend he could not come to the fight tonight because he is under house arrest back in Cali – I just want him to see what he will be missing tonight”. In my over 50 years of going to boxing it is so refreshing to know that caring Uncles still take their Nieces to boxing. Well that’s my story, that’s my story.
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February 16th, 2019 at 7:18:11 PM permalink
At the MGM, guy comes in pulling a suitcase,
headed for checkin. See's the roulette
board has 9 reds in a row, makes a beeline
for it.

Puts $100 on black, loses. $200 on black, loses.
$400 on black, loses. $800 on black, loses.
He quit betting, red came up 2 more times,
and then a zero.

Guy looks like a balloon with the air let out.
He seemed to shrink in size. I asked if
he was going to be OK. He says that $1500
was his whole BR for the weekend, and he
hadn't even checked in yet.

I didn't tell him that if he'd bet red he would
have only lost $100 if it had been black,
The streak would have been over and he
would have stopped betting. If you're
betting streaks never bet against them.
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February 17th, 2019 at 2:00:55 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I didn't tell him that if he'd bet red he would
have only lost $100 if it had been black,
The streak would have been over and he
would have stopped betting. If you're
betting streaks never bet against them.

LOL at that old chestnut.
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