Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: SandybestdogSo you’re saying terrorists are coming from the Middle East? Well then I’m sure you would agree with Trump’s travel ban restricting entry of people from those countries.
Most of the 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia. Why do you think they are not included in Trump’s travel ban?
Quote: rxwineEven though Trump said he already owns responsibility for the shutdown, congress already passed a bipartisan budget bill he rejected. Hard to imagine he can own it anymore than he already does short of getting a tattoo about owning it.
Yep a President/Governor owns ANY veto (including "pocket vetoes"). Only 8 veto overrides post-Reagan.
Has Congress actually adjourned?
Last I heard, even though most people had gone home, they were still doing pro forma dailies.
If they did send a bill, and if congress is still in session, the bill will become law.
I don't think they ever sent the bill, though.
Quote: Dalex64Did Congress actually send their bipartisan bill to the white house?
Has Congress actually adjourned?
Last I heard, even though most people had gone home, they were still doing pro forma dailies.
If they did send a bill, and if congress is still in session, the bill will become law.
I don't think they ever sent the bill, though.
I might have this wrong bUT would appreciate correct info.
Senate passed bi-partisan budget bill and adjourned for the year.
House was still in session but in recess til the day after the Senate adjourned, added 5B to the bill.
Senate came back to DC, re-opened the session, but refused to take up the new House bill. McConnell did not have the votes, so he did not put it into consideration, both to save it from losing, and to protect his no votes from the rabid base.
Any bill has to be reconciled (match) before it's given to the President to sign or veto. So at the moment, there's nothing to send.
I think both houses are in recess, but not adjourned for this session. House returns tomorrow or Thursday, Senate returns Thursday.
If Melania doesn't get to touch the orb, she should have given the king bunny ears.Quote: gamerfreakMost of the 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia. Why do you think they are included in Trump’s travel ban?
Quote: SandybestdogSo you’re saying terrorists are coming from the Middle East? Well then I’m sure you would agree with Trump’s travel ban restricting entry of people from those countries.
No I dont!
Sandy Would you have supported a ban on all people entrring the United States from Ireland in the 1970's because the IRA was a major terrorist group from Ireland?
You dont unilaterally ban an entire nation because there are fringe groups amongst them
Due diligence yes. Banning wholesale no
Did we list them as a terrorist organization?Quote: darkozNo I dont!
Sandy Would you have supported a ban on all people entrring the United States from Ireland in the 1970's because the IRA was a major terrorist group from Ireland?
You dont unilaterally ban an entire nation because there are fringe groups amongst them
Due diligence yes. Banning wholesale no
Quote: AxelWolfDid we list them as a terrorist organization?
Ireland? Yes, at the time, and for decades after, absolutely. There was a big ruckus when the head of Sinn Fein was denied a visitor visa by the State Department back in the 90s because they knew he was coming here to fundraise for them in Boston.
When I traveled to London over NYE 1977-78, there was still a travel advisory on Ireland. And sure enough, we were partying in London that night and an IRA bomb went off down the block, and we all got evacuated onto the street about 11:30 that night. Ironically in hindsight, we were partying with a group of Saudi businessmen in the Playboy Club, then went to a late dinner and midnight show at a nearby cabaret.
So yeah, there was a lot more going on than that with the Irish, but it was very touchy because of the large group of Irish supporters up in the NE US. Now, of course, the Irish are our friends, and the Saudis are harboring the terrorists.
Any of you ever hear of the Christmas Miracle of 1950?
Surging Chinese "volunteers" had over run UN troops in Korea trapping 100,000 troops along with countless refugees in a Korean port, the sea being their only escape. No one had vetted the civilians and a number of infiltrators had already been caught. Some argued the civilians posed too much danger and should all be left behind. Instead they put 205,000 people on boats they estimated would hold a tenth of that. One boat ,built to sleep sixty set sail with 14,000 on board and there were five babies born on the short cruise.
The Korean-American Society estimates some 50,000 of those refugees and their descendants are now American Citizens.
All because the people in charge refused to operate out of fear.
