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October 27th, 2017 at 5:54:57 AM permalink
Heartland poker is in Pittsburgh this week. Meadows casino had a contest on Facebook where the first person to guess the correct chip count wins a free entry into event 1 which is a $350 buy in tournament. I didn't see it until the next day but still won. It was amazing how bad the guesses were. I bet it takes all of 30 seconds for this forum to get the correct answer.

Here are the rules. Place answer in a spoiler comment. Guess the exact amount and you will be entered into a chance to win 10% of my winnings from this tournament upto a max of $500.

If the answer is not in a spoiler it will not count.
Only 1 guess per person.
Contest will end at 4pm eastern time today.
The first person with the correct answer will select the winner of the prize. I will write the names of all correct answers on a piece of paper and number them. The first person will have double the amount of pages. So if 8 people get it correct then every one will have 1 entry and the first person will have 14 entries. The first person will select the number and who ever is on the back of the paper will be the winner. Yep sounds complicated. Once in announce the winners then the person choosing numbers will have until about 6pm to pick the number or I will have to do it to get this over before I bust out of the tournament.

If I am forgetting anything then I can add or change anything that I want for any reason. If you dont like that rule then don't play.

Here is the pic. I don't know how to embed it now that I can't use photo bucket.
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I will post updates to my status as well. This is my largest buy in tournament so I am not sure what to expect.
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October 27th, 2017 at 5:55:57 AM permalink
Denoms on chips are a little hard to read but thst is the pic they used. Maybe they did that on purpose to make it tougher.
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October 27th, 2017 at 6:22:26 AM permalink
10450
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October 27th, 2017 at 6:27:31 AM permalink
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October 27th, 2017 at 6:29:47 AM permalink
Thanks for the freeroll GWAE! Good luck in the tourney!
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October 27th, 2017 at 6:43:24 AM permalink
10450
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October 27th, 2017 at 6:49:37 AM permalink
Yeah, that photo makes it really hard.
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October 27th, 2017 at 7:54:10 AM permalink
I guess I'll have some poker talk to this thread as well. I play a fair amount of $60-100 buyins with 60 ish people. I have never been involved with a tournament like this with 1000ish people. Does anyone have advice? With a 60% tuornament I quite often make the final table but I can never eally never win them. With these larger tournaments should I be playing tighter at the beginning or should you loosen up and try to get a chip stack early? They also allow entry up through level 9 and you get a full stack is there any reason to wait until then to start my tournament or do you want to start at the beginning. There are also unlimited rebuys up until around 9 at full price I am not going to be rebuying but others will does that change your decision on when you should start the tournament
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October 27th, 2017 at 8:14:26 AM permalink
I make you +1
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October 27th, 2017 at 9:48:31 AM permalink
I am changing the deadline. I just registered and saw the payout structure. We play today until down to approx 24 people and then on Sunday is day 2 from the 4 day 1s. All day 2s make the money. So for this contest I am going to change the deadline to 4pm eastern on saturday.
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October 27th, 2017 at 10:03:00 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I guess I'll have some poker talk to this thread as well. I play a fair amount of $60-100 buyins with 60 ish people. I have never been involved with a tournament like this with 1000ish people. Does anyone have advice? With a 60% tuornament I quite often make the final table but I can never eally never win them. With these larger tournaments should I be playing tighter at the beginning or should you loosen up and try to get a chip stack early? They also allow entry up through level 9 and you get a full stack is there any reason to wait until then to start my tournament or do you want to start at the beginning. There are also unlimited rebuys up until around 9 at full price I am not going to be rebuying but others will does that change your decision on when you should start the tournament



I always play looser against players that I think are going to rebuy because they tend to play very loose.
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October 27th, 2017 at 10:11:44 AM permalink
Since you are not re-buying, I suggest you play tight aggressive. There will be plenty of opportunities to collect some all-ins from the loose players who plan to re-buy. I just hope the cards fall your way. Good luck, and remember that everyone starts with two random cards in round 1 as well as the final table!
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October 27th, 2017 at 10:17:39 AM permalink
My guess

$11,825


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October 27th, 2017 at 11:31:36 AM permalink
This contest almost didnt matter. Starting stack 15k. 30 min blind, 50/100 blind. First hand I get qq on button, I raise 600, 2 callers, flop k26 and 2 diamonds. Checks to me and I fire 1000, both call. Turn 10, checks to me and I fire 3k. River 4, first person shoves all in. Other folds his missed flush. I fold and he shows his 35. Sigh.
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October 27th, 2017 at 12:53:35 PM permalink
Hang in there GwAE. This is the kind of player you will feast on in the long run. Did you think someone had a king?
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October 27th, 2017 at 1:11:35 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Hang in there GwAE. This is the kind of player you will feast on in the long run. Did you think someone had a king?



First hand I had no read obviously. I was getting my feelers out there. I was pretty sure one of them was on a draw. After he called the turn I figured one of them had a K. I was shocked to see his straight.

I dipped down to 7600 chips but have chipped back up to 13k. I have been card dead for the most part. I have tightened way up for the next few levels.
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October 27th, 2017 at 1:20:30 PM permalink
my guess

10,575
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October 27th, 2017 at 1:34:56 PM permalink
I showed off my tightness a few min a go. I have 14k, another guy has approx 12k. I am bb with AK non suited. First to act goes all in, folds to me and I fold face up. Entire table gasped. I gave a small

A few hands later he wispered to me that he had 99. I ran hand calculater and apparently I made the right call if I assumed he had a pocket pair which I did. I figured he had aa, kk, qq.
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October 27th, 2017 at 1:40:01 PM permalink
Older guy just threw a huge hissy fit over seat positions. We are playing 10 handed and dealer asked him to move over when 10th player came. He threw a huge fit saying he was right. Had to call floor and have them make a ruling then he argued about it.
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October 27th, 2017 at 1:45:29 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I showed off my tightness a few min a go. I have 14k, another guy has approx 12k. I am bb with AK non suited. First to act goes all in, folds to me and I fold face up. Entire table gasped. I gave a small

A few hands later he wispered to me that he had 99. I ran hand calculater and apparently I made the right call if I assumed he had a pocket pair which I did. I figured he had aa, kk, qq.



I count those as coinflips, with you at 49% and the under pair at 51%. At some point, you will have to win some of those races to have a chance, but why give the table a free look? I'd only show if you want to project an image as a supertight player. Are you planning to bluff at a pot soon?
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October 27th, 2017 at 2:04:47 PM permalink
At best he's 44.90% with AK offsuit vs 99. That's if he's matching suits to cover flushes.

Example: 9s9d vs AsKd
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October 27th, 2017 at 2:13:25 PM permalink
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...Here is the pic. I don't know how to embed it now that I can't use photo bucket.
https://imgur.com/a/vKHsP

I will post updates to my status as well. This is my largest buy in tournament so I am not sure what to expect.

10,450
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October 27th, 2017 at 2:34:08 PM permalink
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Nevermind, I think I missed the deadline.
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October 27th, 2017 at 3:26:51 PM permalink
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11,750
Nevermind, I think I missed the deadline.

... And the rest of us are wondering what the correct answer was.
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October 27th, 2017 at 3:50:13 PM permalink
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I am changing the deadline. I just registered and saw the payout structure. We play today until down to approx 24 people and then on Sunday is day 2 from the 4 day 1s. All day 2s make the money. So for this contest I am going to change the deadline to 4pm eastern on saturday.



The deadline was extended.
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October 27th, 2017 at 5:19:59 PM permalink
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October 27th, 2017 at 5:28:39 PM permalink
Ahhh damn , free roll over. My phone died so I couldn't update.
Final hand
I have 28k and villIan has be barely covered.
I have JJ in bb, person who shoved on me earlier raises in early position pre flop to 3k. Flop comes j q 4 rainbow. I check, he bets 7k. I raise all in, he calls with Q Q. Fml.

I just got to car so I will update chip count when I get home.

Thanks for playing
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October 27th, 2017 at 5:53:22 PM permalink
Wow how about that for a cold deck... set over set, that's rough =/. Thanks for letting us play along though!
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October 27th, 2017 at 7:49:02 PM permalink
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October 28th, 2017 at 12:42:40 AM permalink
My guess...

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October 28th, 2017 at 5:15:02 AM permalink
The correct answer was 10550.
5k x 1
1k x 2
500 x 2
100 x 20
25 x 22

I know the 25 chips were touch to tell, but they are green just like most 25 chips are.
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October 28th, 2017 at 6:04:32 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I know the 25 chips were touch to tell, but they are green just like most 25 chips are.



apparently the hardest to count too, which is where I missed I think

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October 28th, 2017 at 6:18:17 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

The correct answer was 10550.
5k x 1
1k x 2
500 x 2
100 x 20
25 x 22

I know the 25 chips were touch to tell, but they are green just like most 25 chips are.



I miscounted 1 $25 chip... So close.

I feel your pain though on your last hand. I can't tell you how many times that's happened to me. It's even worse when you are just a few eliminations outside of the money.
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October 28th, 2017 at 6:29:10 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

The correct answer was 10550.
5k x 1
1k x 2
500 x 2
100 x 20
25 x 22

I know the 25 chips were touch to tell, but they are green just like most 25 chips are.



Are you sure there is 20x100? When I zoom it in and count I only get 19 and it sure looks like there are 3 less 100's than 25's.
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October 28th, 2017 at 6:49:09 AM permalink
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Are you sure there is 20x100? When I zoom it in and count I only get 19 and it sure looks like there are 3 less 100's than 25's.



Well I can't be sure because I didn't stack them but the answer is what I guessed and they said it was correct.

When I did my guess I didn't bother to count the stack. I went by them stacking them and in poker they are almost always stacked in 20s. I assumed if they had less than they would have stacked them differently. Plus they off set the 2 green ones so that was my hint.

I will say after playing yesterday the 100's seem to be slightly thinner than the 25s.
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October 28th, 2017 at 7:39:25 AM permalink
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Final hand...

...Thanks for playing

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October 28th, 2017 at 7:40:56 AM permalink
Thanks for the try GWAE.

Since this was your first large tournament, I'm curious what your impression of the competition was, and what, if anything, you would do different next time?
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October 28th, 2017 at 7:52:46 AM permalink
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Are you sure there is 20x100? When I zoom it in and count I only get 19 and it sure looks like there are 3 less 100's than 25's.

Hehe...but your guess was 10450?

I thought the stack was deliberately odd to throw folks off, and missed it too.

If we can't get this right, how are we going to analyze the newly unsealed Kennedy files?
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October 28th, 2017 at 7:53:44 AM permalink
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Ahhh damn....
Final hand.....Thanks for playing


At least you didn't bust out on the very first hand and lose $10,000!!

https://youtu.be/L61TJVsvnSM
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October 28th, 2017 at 8:09:36 AM permalink
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At least you didn't bust out on the very first hand and lose $10,000!!

https://youtu.be/L61TJVsvnSM



Brutal. I'd still rather that happen on the first hand than 2 days in and 2 places outside of getting paid.
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October 28th, 2017 at 8:15:33 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Well I can't be sure because I didn't stack them but the answer is what I guessed and they said it was correct.

When I did my guess I didn't bother to count the stack. I went by them stacking them and in poker they are almost always stacked in 20s. I assumed if they had less than they would have stacked them differently. Plus they off set the 2 green ones so that was my hint.

I will say after playing yesterday the 100's seem to be slightly thinner than the 25s.



Sorry about your bust out but as we all know that is poker. Sometimes the best hand actually wins.

Thanks for the chip count game.
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October 28th, 2017 at 8:53:11 AM permalink
10,375


Edit, you gave the correct answer and I still got it wrong :/
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October 28th, 2017 at 9:51:35 AM permalink
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... I will say after playing yesterday the 100's seem to be slightly thinner than the 25s.

Odd. Usually the chips that get the most action have the most chip gunk, and therefore slightly thicker.

$5 cash chips get more action than any other and are thickest.

I would think that 100T chips are used more than 25T chips, therefore thicker, not thinner.

But what do I know?
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October 28th, 2017 at 9:57:20 AM permalink
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Odd. Usually the chips that get the most action have the most chip gunk, and therefore slightly thicker.

$5 cash chips get more action than any other and are thickest.

I would think that 100T chips are used more than 25T chips, therefore thicker, not thinner.

But what do I know?


I would say the opposite, at least on table games the chips used most often get worn and rounded.
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October 28th, 2017 at 10:33:20 AM permalink
Rounded edges? Sure.

But worn to the point of getting thinner? Don't think so. I maintain that they get touched more and gunkier.
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October 28th, 2017 at 10:55:11 AM permalink
These chips are in very good condition. They only have tournaments this size a few times a year so these chips have probably been used a handful of times.

It seemed that the actual chips were thinner, not because of use but just how they were made.

I am.not sure how I would have played differently in another tournament this size. In a way I was playing with scared money. In the AK vs 99 all in, in a cash game I am probably calling, in a $50 50 person tournament I am definitely calling. In a 350 with 100k guarantee I am afraid to call. When I calculated pot odds during the hand I was figuring I was 52% (which after the fact I realized I was wrong) and I was putting in 45% of the money. I guess that means I should have made the call but I was too tight because of the buyin. Well maybe not the buyin but the possible amount of cashing. I was not ready to coin flip for tournament life. Now that I am thinking about it I think the only way you win these large tournaments are to coin flip a few times. If I do that hand and then the hand a little later where I was chasing a flush I would have called since I would have had a large stack. All of my thinking there may be completely wrong but thats why I am a rec player.
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