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EvenBob
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August 1st, 2012 at 7:01:00 PM permalink
This is a pet peeve of mine on this forum. Not
every guy who wears a suit in the pit is a 'pit
boss'. They don't even use that term anymore,
pit boss is now called the pit manager. So many
people here say all the time 'the pit boss did
this or told me that'. That was a floorman
talking to you, not a pit boss. I'm just sayin..

If I'm wrong, there are enough casino people
here to correct me. Thank you sir, may I have
another.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
DJTeddyBear
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August 1st, 2012 at 7:33:04 PM permalink
Bob -

You're absolutely right. "Floor person" and "Pit boss / put manager" do tend to get used interchangeably by members, as well as the general public.


But in the "us vs them" mind, there are three basic types of casino floor employees:

Dealers, whether they wear Hawaiian shirts or football jerseys or whatever, are easily recognizable.

Security, whether they have a gun or not, you know a stormtrooper when you see one.

Floor people / Pit boss. Management. Suits. 'Nuff said.


So is it so terrible to use the term "Pit boss" when the person involved is really a "Floor person" ? We all know that it was a person in a suit.
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EvenBob
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August 1st, 2012 at 7:49:14 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear




So is it so terrible to use the term "Pit boss" when the person involved is really a "Floor person" ? .



Terrible? No. But its like calling the bank
manager a teller. Its not right and its
misleading. I've been going to casinos
for decades and pit bosses years ago
had little to do with the players. It
wasn't their job, its the floor's job
to talk to the customers.

Reminds me of the antique business,
where all antique furniture is oak or
rosewood to some dealers. No, its
not.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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August 2nd, 2012 at 12:20:23 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Floor people / Pit boss. Management. Suits. 'Nuff said.



You can't take that away from us, Bob! [g]

Eek! I just had an awful thought. Is it accurate to consider the Wizard a "Suit" now in his new job?
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August 2nd, 2012 at 1:50:57 AM permalink
I dislike the fact that the voucher redemption machines at Red Rock are set to give you your last hundred in 20s. If you cash out for $100 you get 5 20s. If you cash out for $120, you get a 100 and a 20. If you cash out for $200, you get 100 and 5 20s. Totally annoying and peculiar to this casino (at least among the ones I frequent).

If my ticket is close to a hundred boundary I have to add money to the machine before I cash out to take it over the 100 multiple or I get a bunch of 20s.
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August 2nd, 2012 at 5:57:57 AM permalink
Yeah, that "pit boss" probably was just the "floor man" and even the floor man was probably just a Dual Rate anyway who the next day would be in a dealer's outfit.

Security types have various categories but share the same personality.
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August 2nd, 2012 at 7:03:36 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

Eek! I just had an awful thought. Is it accurate to consider the Wizard a "Suit" now in his new job?



The Wizard and Nick both.

But on them it looks good.
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August 2nd, 2012 at 8:22:14 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

You can't take that away from us, Bob! [g]

Eek! I just had an awful thought. Is it accurate to consider the Wizard a "Suit" now in his new job?




Yes But do not call him an empty suit, ala mitt Romney !
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August 2nd, 2012 at 4:07:33 PM permalink
I don't think the Wiz qualifies as a "suit" at all. I doubt he's going to be involved in any customer-facing day-to-day relations on the gaming floor, which is what I would call a "suit" whether it's a floor person or pit boss. Behind the scenes Math guys are more like... Hawaiian shirts? than suits.
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August 2nd, 2012 at 4:09:36 PM permalink
No A suit goes with his added responsibilities. Hawaiian shirts are reserved for informal endeavors, like Tower Running.
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August 2nd, 2012 at 4:55:42 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Can you imagine how often the dealers must listen to this "chicken dinner" stuff?



You have no idea... and it seems like everyone that says it thinks that they're super clever for saying it.

Quote: EvenBob

This is a pet peeve of mine on this forum. Not
every guy who wears a suit in the pit is a 'pit
boss'. They don't even use that term anymore,
pit boss is now called the pit manager. So many
people here say all the time 'the pit boss did
this or told me that'. That was a floorman
talking to you, not a pit boss. I'm just sayin..

If I'm wrong, there are enough casino people
here to correct me. Thank you sir, may I have
another.



It's not always a floor supervisor, sometimes it's someone higher up. I've even seen Shift managers take on a complaining player, but yeah, for the most part you nailed it.
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August 2nd, 2012 at 5:11:03 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I agree that people are rude with cell phones, in and out of casinos. However, I still am 10 times as annoyed at smokers.





Wizard - come to Revel!
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August 2nd, 2012 at 5:12:23 PM permalink
Quote: benbakdoff

At the blackjack tables,card counters use cell phones to Wong out of negative shoes. It can be quite effective if done correctly.

While taking the "call" one can continue counting and return to the game if conditions improve or simply wait for the shuffle.





BINGO!
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August 2nd, 2012 at 5:18:40 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I would not be bothered at all, and in fact would be very impressed by your consideration. It is the disruption of checking the count, and displaying it for the camera that is disturbing. It breaks the "rhythm" of the shooter.





And I thought us blackjack players were superstitious!
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August 2nd, 2012 at 5:28:32 PM permalink
Lines to cash in chips.

Where I used to go, the casino was small and not making a good profit, so they had to cut down their employees. A Thursday at 7pm there would be ONE, MAYBE two cashiers with a dozen people waiting. It was also the player services. You'd have 80 year olds wanting their $60 slot voucher paid in $5's. Or someone trying to get something done with their card that would take a full five minutes. All I wanna do is take less than 10 seconds to cash my chips and leave, but I have to wait 10 minutes to do so.
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August 3rd, 2012 at 2:53:21 PM permalink
My biggest complaint about casinos is the lack of water fountains on the gaming floor. For some reason I get very thirsty in casinos. I don't like bottled water and I can't ask for a drink if I'm walking around and it would be nice if I could just stop and get a sip of water from a fountain once in a while.

On the subject of getting drinks, I don't like the idea of having to request it from a keypad on a slot machine. I don't know if it's done that way at all Caesar's properties, but the Roadhouse in Tunica, MS, does it that way. No more do they have waitresses coming around asking if you want a drink. You have to go thru about 3 different screens from a menu at the top of the slot machine to ask for what you want, then you have to sit and wait for it, which can take a while. It almost makes me not want to give the woman a tip because I had to do all the work.
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August 3rd, 2012 at 3:03:06 PM permalink
ewjones080 -- your post reminded me of something annoying they do at the Fitz in Tunica. The second floor of the casino is strictly slots. They have a cashier's cage with 4 stations, but no more than 2 are ever occupied during the busiest time of the day. After 10pm, tho, they shut down the cages completely and if you want to cash in your slot tickets you're forced to either use the "bill breaker" machine, which accepts only 1 ticket at a time, or go all the way downstairs to the one and only cashier that's open.

It's a PITA because doing 1 ticket at a time at the machine means I end up with about 3 pounds of coins to carry around. It also means I always get stuck on line behind some old drunk guy who has no idea how the machine works or a bunch of old ladies with a fistful of tickets to cash in, all of which are under $5.
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August 3rd, 2012 at 3:11:51 PM permalink
Quote: tsmith

ewjones080 -- your post reminded me of something annoying they do at the Fitz in Tunica. The second floor of the casino is strictly slots. They have a cashier's cage with 4 stations, but no more than 2 are ever occupied during the busiest time of the day. After 10pm, tho, they shut down the cages completely and if you want to cash in your slot tickets you're forced to either use the "bill breaker" machine, which accepts only 1 ticket at a time, or go all the way downstairs to the one and only cashier that's open.

It's a PITA because doing 1 ticket at a time at the machine means I end up with about 3 pounds of coins to carry around. It also means I always get stuck on line behind some old drunk guy who has no idea how the machine works or a bunch of old ladies with a fistful of tickets to cash in, all of which are under $5.



I'm not a slot player but my wife is and she always consolidates her tickets at the slot machine before going to the window or self serve cash out.
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August 3rd, 2012 at 3:19:09 PM permalink
Quote: tsmith

My biggest complaint about casinos is the lack of water fountains on the gaming floor. .



And in Vegas you'll never see them. They attract
every homeless street person to come in and help
themselves. In Indian casinos, they have free
beverage stations. If they had those in Vegas,
the homeless line would be out the door.
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August 4th, 2012 at 3:32:55 PM permalink
This is not a casino pet peeve. It drives me nuts
when the press calls the Democrat Party the
Democratic Party. Its democrat, not democratic.

Why aren't they called Democratic's if its the
Democratic party? Thy're called Democrat's,
because they belong to the Democrat Party.
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August 4th, 2012 at 4:44:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This is not a casino pet peeve. It drives me nuts
when the press calls the Democrat Party the
Democratic Party. Its democrat, not democratic.

Why aren't they called Democratic's if its the
Democratic party? Thy're called Democrat's,
because they belong to the Democrat Party.



They seem to be doing some rebranding. It has, historically, been the Democratic Party, and is still referred to as such at the state level, e.g.,
http://www.nvdems.com/

Also see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29

Getting back to the subject at hand, my biggest casino pet peeve is probably the rarity of Sic bo games, and the decline of big table Baccarat.
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August 4th, 2012 at 6:23:12 PM permalink
Quote: heather

Getting back to the subject at hand, my biggest casino pet peeve is probably the rarity of Sic bo games, and the decline of big table Baccarat.


While it is nowhere near Vegas, Foxwoods added a second Sic Bo table some time recently. Both tables looked very shiny and new.
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