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FleaStiff
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August 23rd, 2017 at 11:49:17 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

"White women from Scandinavia and their white children were sold as slaves. Slave traders would bring the women to the USA with promises of farmland then administratively declare them to be quadroons and earn money by selling them."

While that may have happened, I doubt it was a thriving business. The US outlawed the import of slaves long before the Civil War.

They were not imported as slaves they were importd for marriage and farm land but upon arrival declared quadroons and sold at auction.
FleaStiff
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August 23rd, 2017 at 12:00:12 PM permalink
Blacks want the statues removed so they can eventually put up statues to Comrade King and his ilk. Blacks want black teacherrs, black judges and black history. What was that college where the blacks demanded a white-absence day so blacks could enjoy their racial identity?

The difference between a Person of Interest and a Suspect depends on the poor guy being in custody or not.

This MultiCultural nation stuff will eventually end once the numbers get sufficiently changed.
rxwine
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August 23rd, 2017 at 12:30:25 PM permalink
Quote: RS

It's as if everyone was fine with this stuff just a short while ago, then suddenly a bunch of people jump on the bandwagon and are offended by this stuff. Oh, wait....



You could put up a statue of Hitler, and a certain percentage of people wouldn't know who it was (especially in his civilian attire). Most people probably can't name the current Speaker of the House.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't care about either of those things.

If you walk around half the day with a "kick me" sign on your back, doesn't mean you have to like it and keep it when you find out..
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August 23rd, 2017 at 12:58:37 PM permalink
I want the show "Blackish" and BET removed from television. Racist b@$&@%#$!
billryan
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August 23rd, 2017 at 1:05:10 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Blacks want the statues removed so they can eventually put up statues to Comrade King and his ilk. Blacks want black teacherrs, black judges and black history. What was that college where the blacks demanded a white-absence day so blacks could enjoy their racial identity?

The difference between a Person of Interest and a Suspect depends on the poor guy being in custody or not.

This MultiCultural nation stuff will eventually end once the numbers get sufficiently changed.




Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
It's what you do and not what you say If you're not part of the future then get out of the way
billryan
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August 23rd, 2017 at 1:06:21 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

They were not imported as slaves they were importd for marriage and farm land but upon arrival declared quadroons and sold at auction.



Your point being?
It's what you do and not what you say If you're not part of the future then get out of the way
petroglyph
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August 23rd, 2017 at 1:51:35 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Your point being?

We tend to judge history by present standards. The practice of bringing slaves to the America's for sale by the big merchants, [and large slave ships] in "The Atlantic slave trade" were religiously acceptable. Slavery was around for thousands of years by all cultures prior to war of Northern aggression.

Blaming slave owners for slavery is like trying to stop drug smuggling by blaming the user. Try looking at who were the big slave merchants. Who were the slave cartels?
RS
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August 23rd, 2017 at 2:01:18 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Your point being?


I think his point was explaining how they were able to import slaves even though it was outlawed at that time.

I don't know if they declared their importing of slaves as importing people for marriage / farm land, or whatever FleaStiff said.
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dave12038457
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August 23rd, 2017 at 2:17:46 PM permalink
The origin of The Civil War is a rather sticky affair.
Many in the South felt the North had inordinate power in the Federal government. Despite the wealthy Southern Planter Class, the rapidly industrializing North was far wealthier.
Once the Federal government tried to say what newly formed states would be free or slave, the die was cast.
The South viewed the Federal government as Northern controlled and against their interests
They viewed the Constitution as a compact that can be broken. If the colonies can revolt against England, why can't states revolt and cecede from the Union.
The overwelmingly majority of battles happened in the South. Many Confederates enlisted to protect their homeland first. Many Union soldiers enlisted for adventure and love of country.
Slavery was the biggest evil perpetrated by our nation
However, at that time slavery existed in some form on every continent including Africa. It was far from unique to America.
At the end of the war we wanted to quickly heal the wounds and be one nation again. We didn't think punishing the South would be at all productive.
Actually the North spent considerable money rebuilding the South.
Now, all the trouble caused by Confederate Statues.
I understand how some people view them as there heritage. Likewise others view them as symbols of oppression.Recent events have shown it to be a lightning rod for both sides.
I have no problem with Confederate Statues in museums, private property, cemeteries and Civil War battle fields. But maybe it is time to remove them from puplic spaces.Like I wrote earlier different people view the same statues differently.
As a side note ESPN has reassigned a broadcaster because his name is Robert Lee he is Asian this is one of the silliest things in the news.....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/08/23/espns-robert-lee-decision-shows-its-the-worldwide-leader-in-silliness/?utm_term=.d33ae59044a8
Last edited by: dave12038457 on Aug 23, 2017
petroglyph
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August 23rd, 2017 at 4:19:59 PM permalink
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-23/cnn-gets-absolutely-destroyed-their-own-charlottesville-panel-media-not-being-honest From the link, "
"That's the night before the clash happened. The Antifa people didn't show up Friday night, they showed up Saturday. They came there to do battle. They showed up with helmets, body armor, clubs... They showed up with ballons filled with urine." bolding mine

"The media is not covering it. They're only focused on making neo-Nazis and white supremacists out to be Trump supporters."

The Antifa people showed up with balloons filled with urine to throw at people. How would you like a balloon full of piss thrown on you? The group that Terapined is a member of, "BLM", is also a member of Antifa. NC senator compares BLM with white supremacists. http://www.theroot.com/state-senator-in-n-c-calls-black-lives-matter-a-viole-1797876506

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