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rxwine
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August 19th, 2017 at 12:31:37 AM permalink
General Robert E. Lee was probably right. People haven't moved on apparently.

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The retired Confederate leader, a West Point graduate, was influenced by his knowledge of history.

“Lee believed countries that erased visible signs of civil war recovered from conflicts quicker,” Horn said. “He was worried that by keeping these symbols alive, it would keep the divisions alive.”



http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-monuments/
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August 19th, 2017 at 1:01:28 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

The Civil War was about taxes not slavery. Lincoln made that very clear in his addresses to Congress. I am finding it amazing to see so many, so called educated people, making fools of themselves lately. People need to unite against the instigators behind all this antagonism. Education has been replaced by indoctrination.

The US is the last country standing in the way of the NWO. For how long depends on people realizing that they are being played against each other and manipulated by distortion of facts. You have a choice to not be used as cannon fodder.



There is plenty of evidence several southern states were fighting for slavery. They left records of it.

Read the Mississippi Declaration of Secession. They openly declare slavery as their central interest.

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Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery - the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product, which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.



http://www.civil-war.net/pages/mississippi_declaration.asp

Here's a quote from Texas secession document -

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"We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable"



https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/abouttx/secession/2feb1861.html

South Carolina

SC held that non-slave holding states were not holding to obligations expected towards slaves passing through their state as one of the causes of succession. Enslaving people held certain rights expected of the non-slave states.

http://www.atlantahistorycenter.com/assets/documents/SCarolina-Secession-p1-13.pdf
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August 19th, 2017 at 1:33:20 AM permalink
Quote: Calder

When I glanced at the census data, I didn't see any indication of who owned whom & how many, just raw head counts by race and status. That number strikes me as high.


http://www.civil-war.net/pages/1860_census.html

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August 19th, 2017 at 1:39:38 AM permalink
http://mentalfloss.com/article/28128/gettysburg-great-reunion-1913

The 1913 Gettysburg reunion was a Gettysburg Battlefield encampment of American Civil War veterans for the Battle of Gettysburg's 50th anniversary. The June 29–July 4 gathering of 53,407 veterans (~8,750 Confederate)[1] was the largest ever Civil War veteran reunion, and "never before in the world's history [had] so great a number of men so advanced in years been assembled under field conditions" (Chief Surgeon).[2]:60 All honorably discharged veterans in the Grand Army of the Republic and the United Confederate Veterans were invited, and veterans from 46 of the 48 states attended[3] (cf. Nevada).[citation needed] Despite concerns "that there might be unpleasant differences, at least, between the blue and gray"[4] (as after England's War of the Roses and the French Revolution),[5] the peaceful reunion was repeatedly marked by events of Union–Confederate camaraderie.[6] President Woodrow Wilson's July 4 reunion address summarized the spirit: "We have found one another again as brothers and comrades in arms, enemies no longer, generous friends rather, our battles long past, the quarrel forgotten—except that we shall not forget the splendid valor."
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August 19th, 2017 at 8:09:15 AM permalink
Excellent, thanks.
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August 19th, 2017 at 8:53:41 AM permalink
In 1917, four years after the Gettysburg reunion, America found itself at war again. Douglas MacArthur assembled the All American Division, a group that included units of National Guard units from all 48 states. My great uncle, a member of NYs 69th, the Irish Brigade, went to war side by side with units that had fought them at Gettysburg and other places. In many cases, the grandsons of Civil War veterans fought and died alongside each other.
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August 19th, 2017 at 11:03:14 AM permalink
https://www.google.com/amp/s/whatculture.com/amp/wwe/wwe-fans-protest-against-donald-trump-in-brooklyn-during-summerslam-weekend

More evidence the left will NEvER stop. Protesting a non physical wrestling Hall of Fane. As a Alt Left Icon once said, Get Drunk, Get Laid or get a better paying job. But damn, stop being jealous and do something of use with your life.
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August 22nd, 2017 at 6:16:47 PM permalink
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-protests-poll-idUSKCN1B12EG Twice as many Americans want to keep statues as want them removed.
Boz
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August 22nd, 2017 at 6:39:54 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-protests-poll-idUSKCN1B12EG Twice as many Americans want to keep statues as want them removed.



Will never matter because nothing is ever enough for the left. Name something, anything most people agree on, it is never enough to the far left.

Pick any issue, give them an inch and they want more. Accept or be called a racist.
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August 22nd, 2017 at 6:42:48 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-protests-poll-idUSKCN1B12EG Twice as many Americans want to keep statues as want them removed.



Doesn't matter
Its up to the locals
I live in FL
Who am I to say what statues stay up or get torn down in a city a thousand miles from me
Don't want the statue in Charlottesville to come down
Move to Charlottesville, register to vote, work hard to get elected council members that agree with you
Better yet, run for city council yourself after moving there
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