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March 10th, 2017 at 5:21:08 AM permalink
How would you make the slots better for your core customers, the gamblers? People have said that the core customers are actually the casinos but the core customers are actually the gamblers. Like my childhood friend's older sister once wisely said,"The game cartridge is actually the most important part of the Nintendo. Without the cartridge, the Nintendo is just a useless box."

I would put a "privacy" cover around the slot so that the player will not have unwanted onlookers looking at his game as he plays his slot.The player puts a "Game in progress" sign on the outside for his privacy. That would have helped me out with the guy who was harrassing me as I played about two weeks ago.

I would get rid of the loud and flashing "Big winner" announcement for handpays or just other big wins. Possibly alerting low life thieves to players just minding their business is risky and dangerous.

I would make sure that every win is equal to the bet or higher than the bet. I have always hated the fact that a $1 bet gives you a .20 "win" at times. That is a .80 cent loss, not a win.

So, how would you make slots better for the gamblers if you were a slot manufacturer? :)
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March 10th, 2017 at 5:28:50 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

How would you make the slots better for your core customers, the gamblers? People have said that the core customers are actually the casinos but the core customers are actually the gamblers. Like my childhood friend's older sister once wisely said,"The game cartridge is actually the most important part of the Nintendo. Without the cartridge, the Nintendo is just a useless box."

I would put a "privacy" cover around the slot so that the player will not have unwanted onlookers looking at his game as he plays his slot.The player puts a "Game in progress" sign on the outside for his privacy. That would have helped me out with the guy who was harrassing me as I played about two weeks ago.

I would get rid of the loud and flashing "Big winner" announcement for handpays or just other big wins. Possibly alerting low life thieves to players just minding their business is risky and dangerous.

I would make sure that every win is equal to the bet or higher than the bet. I have always hated the fact that a $1 bet gives you a .20 "win" at times. That is a .80 cent loss, not a win.

So, how would you make slots better for the gamblers if you were a slot manufacturer? :)
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Those might be 3 of the worst ideas I've ever heard of about slots. Well, at least the first two plus putting fur on a machine.

Any casino implanting your ideas would be closed in a matter of months.


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March 10th, 2017 at 5:33:55 AM permalink
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Those might be 3 of the worst ideas I've ever heard of about slots. Well, at least the first two plus putting fur on a machine.

Any casino implanting your ideas would be closed in a matter of months.


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The privacy cover isn't fur. It's an enclosure like sliding curtains.
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March 10th, 2017 at 5:49:54 AM permalink
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I would make sure that every win is equal to the bet or higher than the bet. I have always hated the fact that a $1 bet gives you a .20 "win" at times. That is a .80 cent loss, not a win.



I would do the other way on this. I would make an "every pull wins" machine. Say you have to bet 20 credits at $.05 each to start but you win at least one credit every pull. I could see people loving the "must win" feature and it grinding them down.
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March 10th, 2017 at 5:58:53 AM permalink
I like the privacy curtain idea. But instead of a slot machine inside, how about a woman (or man) behind a glass that dances and gets naked for you?

Also, instead of flashing winner, slots should say degrading and demeaning things to you when you win. But they have to mix those in when you lose as well, or else the low life thieves will catch on.

Also, fur.
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March 10th, 2017 at 6:03:48 AM permalink
yes, fur is the best idea so far

Nathan, I guess we have to admit it's less boring around here now
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March 10th, 2017 at 6:41:32 AM permalink
Interesting question.

A privacy curtain would never fly. Too big of a security / surveillance risk. If you really want that kind of privacy, play online from home.

Get rid of the flashing lights and noises? I get what you're saying, but what manager wants a quiet casino?

Make the minimum win equal to the amount risked? If you really want that, play single line machines. Partial wins is the key to addictive behavior on multi-line machines. Besides, to do what you're suggesting on a multi-line machine would make the math horribly complex.


I'd add the actual odds of each winning combination. Maybe even a house edge calculation table.


Regarding your Nintendo comment: The game title/cartridge/DVD/etc. is so much more important than the game console, the console is usually sold at a loss. Yep, the real profit is in the individual games.
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March 10th, 2017 at 6:56:42 AM permalink
I'm surprised no casinos have slut slots, i.e. ones with X-rated images / porntoon themes.
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March 10th, 2017 at 7:18:41 AM permalink
ANY way you slice it, it is the CASINO that buys the machine, not the parade of half-drunk players milling about in a casino.

A casino features "a buzz"... a Terribles features a very loud buzz (yeah, I know its got some other Sevens moniker now). A Venetian features a sedate buzz. Other casinos fall somewhere in between but it has to always be a festive, pleasant atmosphere particularly if the competion is right next door.

Privacy curtain? Yeah sure. Just tell surveillance you want someone to be able to put a monkey's paw up a machine's innards with ease and without interruption. It used to be that players who reported machine tinkerers to security would get rewards from the casino and the machine would be out of service immediately. Now the innards are electronic and the outards are hardened but surveillance still frowns on anyone ducking down and reaching towards plugs, wires or anything else. There will probably never be cocktail waitresses wearing burkas but there surely will NEVER be slot machines that wear burkas.

Gamble in absolute privacy. Sure, bring five hundred grand and the casino will accommodate you. Otherwise, take your chances with prowlers and hookers and lovely young ladies.
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March 10th, 2017 at 7:36:02 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff



A casino features "a buzz"... a Terribles features a very loud buzz (yeah, I know its got some other Sevens moniker now). A Venetian features a sedate buzz. Other casinos fall somewhere in between but it has to always be a festive, pleasant atmosphere particularly if the competion is right next door.



Yes, indeed.

When slot mfrs. went from coin to TITO, the once common, "exciting" sound of coins dropping into the tray after a win went AWOL.

They had to do something to replace it, so they invented tones and fake coin drop sounds.

Whatever it takes to keep folks stimulated and plopped in that chair.
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March 10th, 2017 at 7:42:17 AM permalink
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Well, at least the first two plus putting fur on a machine.

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March 10th, 2017 at 8:29:51 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Yes, indeed.

When slot mfrs. went from coin to TITO, the once common, "exciting" sound of coins dropping into the tray after a win went AWOL.

Heck, you know those metal trays were kept loose so the coins would make far more noise than was necessary. Its good advertising. Bells, whistles, hoops and hollers.... don't expect a burka bedecked coctail waitress to come by and offer you fruit juice in accordance with Allah's mandates. Its going to be an attractive waitress offering you booze. Casinos are there to make money. It used to be that slot machines were there to entertain the wives and girlfriends of craps players as well as the women who were doing their six week residency in order to shed a husband, but no longer. Now slots bring in about half the revenue and never go on strike. The slots are more valuable than any particular player who wants peace and quiet.
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March 10th, 2017 at 10:28:10 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I would do the other way on this. I would make an "every pull wins" machine. Say you have to bet 20 credits at $.05 each to start but you win at least one credit every pull. I could see people loving the "must win" feature and it grinding them down.



Like the kids' machines that at least award a Tootsie Roll for a quarter play? It's still a three-cent Tootsie Roll.
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March 10th, 2017 at 10:30:12 AM permalink
Quote: sabre

I like the privacy curtain idea. But instead of a slot machine inside, how about a woman (or man) behind a glass that dances and gets naked for you?

Also, instead of flashing winner, slots should say degrading and demeaning things to you when you win. But they have to mix those in when you lose as well, or else the low life thieves will catch on.

Also, fur.



The ten pixel (or whatever) Cherry Master girl strips, does that count? No privacy curtain, though.

If you want to combine porn and gambling, and do not live in the United States, I suppose you could try Pornhub Casino.
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March 10th, 2017 at 10:35:26 AM permalink
If I was a slot, I'd like to be Triple Diamond Deluxe machine.
How about you?
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March 10th, 2017 at 10:42:31 AM permalink
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I'm surprised no casinos have slut slots, i.e. ones with X-rated images / porntoon themes.



Mission has a contribution to make here on this theme, but I hope he doesnt
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March 10th, 2017 at 12:51:19 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

How would you make the slots better for your core customers, the gamblers? People have said that the core customers are actually the casinos but the core customers are actually the gamblers. Like my childhood friend's older sister once wisely said,"The game cartridge is actually the most important part of the Nintendo. Without the cartridge, the Nintendo is just a useless box."

I would put a "privacy" cover around the slot so that the player will not have unwanted onlookers looking at his game as he plays his slot.The player puts a "Game in progress" sign on the outside for his privacy. That would have helped me out with the guy who was harrassing me as I played about two weeks ago.

I would get rid of the loud and flashing "Big winner" announcement for handpays or just other big wins. Possibly alerting low life thieves to players just minding their business is risky and dangerous.

I would make sure that every win is equal to the bet or higher than the bet. I have always hated the fact that a $1 bet gives you a .20 "win" at times. That is a .80 cent loss, not a win.

So, how would you make slots better for the gamblers if you were a slot manufacturer? :)
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First of all, let me commend you on an excellent idea for a thread.

1.) The privacy cover is a bad idea, (no offense) you want your potential players (casino guests) to see as many machines as possible in the hopes that they spot one they like, and you want them to see other players playing, having a good time and winning. To one of your other points, yes, that does involve a delicate balance between being seen winning and their personal security and them not wanting to get any undue scrutiny when it becomes known they have money.

2.) When it comes to the bells and whistles, I think you definitely need it to be somehow seen that players are hitting jackpots, and have it be announced (though maybe not by name and also perhaps delay the announcement until after the handpay is complete, "Just fifteen minutes ago...") to the patrons. However, I do think that the video screen that some casinos use now to broadcast it, specifically at a few Hollywood properties, is an awful idea. Now, someone with ill-intent does not even need to happen to be near the person to know they have some money.

3.) I would not make every win equal to or greater than the bet because the psychological reinforcement provided by the notion of frequently, "Winning," is important to keep the player engaged.

MY CHANGES:

1.) When we talk about machines saying or displaying, "Huge Win," or some other such verbiage, I would make sure it could actually reasonably be considered that. I fail to see, for example, how 10x the bet is a huge win. A SF on DW pays more than that, usually.

In order to accomplish this, the manufacturers might want to actually poll the players (at least, I would) to determine what the minimum win amount would be for players not to consider it completely absurd. The smiles when this happens are often not joyful, they're sardonic.

2.) I would make it so every machine can be stopped with a double-tap, why do you want people to take longer per spin if they want to rush through it, anyway? There's a little selfishness in that, too, I can't stand it when must-hits are good, but it is one of those that takes eighty-six years per spin.

3.) Does anyone really like sitting through literally hundreds of free games that are worth roughly 1/4th of the initial bet each? Fewer free games, better EV per game. Does anyone like hitting a small amount of free games and winning less than the initial bet!? Every incidence of Free Games also should return the amount of the bet before Free Games even start.

If forced to pick an ideal methodology for Free Games, I don't think it has ever gotten better than Quick Hits Platinum. Although, games with the, 'Bonus Guarantee,' (usually 10x initial bet) are generally fine, too.
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March 10th, 2017 at 12:52:40 PM permalink
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Mission has a contribution to make here on this theme, but I hope he doesnt



Forget TITO, they'd have to be coin insert games.

(Only because you asked for it)
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March 10th, 2017 at 12:57:41 PM permalink
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Forget TITO, they'd have to be coin insert games.

(Only because you asked for it)



I was thinking about the sexual activity you've seen at machines, I think it was keno that seemed to bring it on
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March 10th, 2017 at 1:04:42 PM permalink
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I was thinking about the sexual activity you've seen at machines, I think it was keno that seemed to bring it on



Oh, God, just when I had almost gotten that image out of my head.
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March 10th, 2017 at 2:59:00 PM permalink
They need to make slots with bonus rounds that switch to video poker. Would get some people who only play slots exposed to VP, and I might play more slots if this came to fruition.
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March 10th, 2017 at 3:12:29 PM permalink
About the privacy cover thing which seems to be the most controversial thing on my list, the privacy cover thing is to prevent shady low lives from looking at your slot while you are playing. If I am at a slot machine minding my own business, and I get a $500 hit on a very lucky spin, I don't want some low life telling me,"Oh, what a great hit! Congratulations! Oh, by the way, I just lost my money for the week on a bad slot machine . Could you give me a $20 for the week? I mean, you do have an extra $500 win!"

A guy said on.another website that he won exactly $500 in a lucky drawing. But in order to claim his prize, he had to accept it on the very public stage. After he got the win, two burly men he had never seen before went near where he was playing with his won money and started giving sob stories about losing their money in slots and claimed they were hungry and strongly suggested he treat them to dinner at the casino restaurant with the money he publicly won. Luckily, a slot attendant was passing by and the guy gave her a look that clearly said,"Help me. These guys are harassing me," and she got the message and said something like,"We don't allow patrons to just stand around watching other patrons play. You guys will have to leave if you are not playing." She got the burly men to leave and he tipped her for helping him out.
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March 10th, 2017 at 3:41:23 PM permalink
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March 10th, 2017 at 4:03:28 PM permalink
Well, the privacy curtain will not hide what the core customer is doing to the machine from the eye in the sky. It just prevents low life shady people from seeing innocent players winnigs/credits.
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March 10th, 2017 at 4:35:24 PM permalink
If you're worried about privacy (I'm not), you can get a bit of it by playing only in the high limit room, as they are usually separate from the main floor and reasonably private.

Has it occurred to you that a "privacy curtain" would allow dirtbags to jerk off (playing with themselves while playing by themselves?)

Casinos have enough problems with morons pissing the seats and spilling liquids on the slots; the last thing they want is to have semen splattered on their slots.

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March 10th, 2017 at 4:44:04 PM permalink
Those curtains would be used for sex. Next.
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March 10th, 2017 at 4:53:10 PM permalink
Maybe you could bring in a blanket, duct tape it to the slot, then pull it over and tuck it behind your back on the chair. It will last a few minutes. I heard once a guy was talked to because he used his hoodie jacket to cover the machine, so only he could see. Security came around and told him to stop, because they need to see the machine. If he was breaking into it or just breaking it, etc.

I wouldn't mind lazy boy reclining chairs at the machines myself but Id probably fall asleep in them. That's always been a peeve of mine the chairs being uncomfortable, but the casino does that on purpose. Gambling on the machines is the only thing that works distracting the annoyance of the seat. Casinos dont really want people comfortable because comfortable people don't gamble as much as irritated uncomfortable people.
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March 10th, 2017 at 5:30:19 PM permalink
Like I said, the eye in the sky still sees everything. All casino staff will have to do is put a sign on the slot that reads,"Even with the privacy curtain, we are still watching everything you do. EVERYTHING."That would be a huge deterrent to people wanting to have sex or jack off while they play slots. ;)
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March 10th, 2017 at 5:46:54 PM permalink
How can the eye see through a non-transparent "privacy curtain?"

Only a camera sited directly above would be able to see a player otherwise shielded by a "privacy curtain," and there a helluva lot more slots than cams to surveil them one on one.
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March 10th, 2017 at 5:54:24 PM permalink
They should make every machine capable of playing every game at every denomination. That way there's no waiting. Machines could be programmed to display certain games in certain areas to give the floor the appearance of a good mix, but the player would have the option of changing to any other game, including ones with the progressive jackpots. If you really wanted to play a game for the "experience" like vibrating seats or multiscreen video cutaways, you might have to wait, but why not offer the option to play "Willy Wonka" on a "Wizard of Oz" cabinet?
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March 10th, 2017 at 5:58:14 PM permalink
That's what I meant. The eye in the sky would be on top of every slot. So, it would be a bird's eye view on all slots that have the privacy curtain.
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March 10th, 2017 at 6:25:08 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Those might be 3 of the worst ideas I've ever heard of about slots. Well, at least the first two plus putting fur on a machine.

Any casino implanting your ideas would be closed in a matter of months.


ZCore13

fur = brilliant.

Again, I say Ahigh and his team's games were brilliant.

He was probably way ahead of his time.
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I can't speak for the business aspect of it at all, I have no clue how that work's. I know 100% for sure they should not have names it anything with advantage Play. They shouldn't have lead with that. It didn't even need to be mentioned. Unfortunately for him that's something that inspired him to make the AP "slots"

If you look at the skill games they have put out vs. his paintball, it's like night and day. Others are archaic compared to his. Others remind me of 80's Video games. (That's a different subject, already aknowaged but other W0V members)

PS. While reading the tittle, I was thinking who put this Dumb NEW thread up?

DUH!

HE always HAS to start a new FK'ing slot thread. It's very annoying. I was not surprised once I clicked and seen who started it.

I was tricked, because I forgot all about him. Can't wait for a 30 day. Not that I don't like him. I just wish he would keep his CRAP to one or two threads.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 10th, 2017 at 6:33:20 PM permalink
Nathan, think it throughL

Some casinos have thousands of slots.

You are suggesting that each slot should have its own camera dedicated to it.

Really??!!
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March 10th, 2017 at 6:41:49 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Nathan, think it throughL

Some casinos have thousands of slots.

You are suggesting that each slot should have its own camera dedicated to it.

Really??!!



Gotta keep the lowlife away!
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March 10th, 2017 at 6:52:59 PM permalink
Once again, I said only the ones that have the privacy curtain would have the cameras directly for them.
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March 10th, 2017 at 7:04:49 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Nathan, think it throughL

Some casinos have thousands of slots.

You are suggesting that each slot should have its own camera dedicated to it.

Really??!!



The monitor could contain a camera so the security can watch. If it's good enough for the CIA and my living room, should be good for Vegas.
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March 10th, 2017 at 7:19:59 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

The monitor could contain a camera so the security can watch. If it's good enough for the CIA and my living room, should be good for Vegas.



I waa just about to post something similar to this but you beat me to the punch. :) Great minds think alike. :)
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March 10th, 2017 at 8:49:07 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Gotta keep the lowlife away!

You and I will never go away (-;
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 10th, 2017 at 9:19:57 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Once again, I said only the ones that have the privacy curtain would have the cameras directly for them.



after reading through the Macy's gift card thread, I recall thinking, could this be the worst thread ever? Then I read this one.
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March 10th, 2017 at 9:39:33 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

About the privacy cover thing which seems to be the most controversial thing on my list, the privacy cover thing is to prevent shady low lives from looking at your slot while you are playing. If I am at a slot machine minding my own business, and I get a $500 hit on a very lucky spin, I don't want some low life telling me,"Oh, what a great hit! Congratulations! Oh, by the way, I just lost my money for the week on a bad slot machine . Could you give me a $20 for the week? I mean, you do have an extra $500 win!"

A guy said on.another website that he won exactly $500 in a lucky drawing. But in order to claim his prize, he had to accept it on the very public stage. After he got the win, two burly men he had never seen before went near where he was playing with his won money and started giving sob stories about losing their money in slots and claimed they were hungry and strongly suggested he treat them to dinner at the casino restaurant with the money he publicly won. Luckily, a slot attendant was passing by and the guy gave her a look that clearly said,"Help me. These guys are harassing me," and she got the message and said something like,"We don't allow patrons to just stand around watching other patrons play. You guys will have to leave if you are not playing." She got the burly men to leave and he tipped her for helping him out.



I have *never* in all my years of gambling (30) and winning many hits over $500, including hand pays with the bells and whistles been accosted by someone wanting money in the way you describe here.

I also find it interesting that every post you make says something like "I read on another website" or "I heard someone else say" or something to suggest that none of these experiences are yours. Except for the Macy's card, which got you banned for 7 days because it was nowhere close to reality.
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March 10th, 2017 at 11:01:51 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

A guy said on.another website that he won exactly $500 in a lucky drawing. But in order to claim his prize, he had to accept it on the very public stage. After he got the win, two burly men he had never seen before went near where he was playing with his won money and started giving sob stories about losing their money in slots and claimed they were hungry and strongly suggested he treat them to dinner at the casino restaurant with the money he publicly won. Luckily, a slot attendant was passing by and the guy gave her a look that clearly said,"Help me. These guys are harassing me," and she got the message and said something like,"We don't allow patrons to just stand around watching other patrons play. You guys will have to leave if you are not playing." She got the burly men to leave and he tipped her for helping him out.



I remember that story. The follow-up to it was that those burly men ended up winning a jackpot one week later and buying him dinner.
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March 10th, 2017 at 11:05:03 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

I remember that story. The follow-up to it was that those burly men ended up winning a jackpot one week later and buying him dinner.



And a haircut!

*wink*
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March 11th, 2017 at 12:20:58 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

I have *never* in all my years of gambling (30) and winning many hits over $500, including hand pays with the bells and whistles been accosted by someone wanting money in the way you describe here.

I also find it interesting that every post you make says something like "I read on another website" or "I heard someone else say" or something to suggest that none of these experiences are yours. Except for the Macy's card, which got you banned for 7 days because it was nowhere close to reality.



The Macy's gift card thing was a total ugh. I really should have thoroughly researched the promotion before I posted it on WOV.
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March 11th, 2017 at 8:28:07 AM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

They need to make slots with bonus rounds that switch to video poker. Would get some people who only play slots exposed to VP, and I might play more slots if this came to fruition.



I came up with a Keno game that would do that!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 11th, 2017 at 6:24:33 PM permalink
No matter whether a security problem presently exists or not, it will never be solved with any sort of privacy shroud. Surveillance, patrols, call buttons, etc. but never anything that impedes open view and a feeling of openness. No way.

TITO... heck, I'd like to see tokens or dollars brought back. Remember those 167 armored cars in a slow parade when Caesar's was about to open, each one filled with dollar coins? What advertising that was!!

Buckets of dollar coins? Bring 'em back.
Metal trays set to purposely make more noise than necessary? Well, no thanks.
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July 1st, 2017 at 3:45:40 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan



I would put a "privacy" cover around the slot so that the player will not have unwanted onlookers looking at his game as he plays his slot.The player puts a "Game in progress" sign on the outside for his privacy. That would have helped me out with the guy who was harrassing me as I played about two weeks ago.




Actually what I was originally thinking about was more of a "black" screen where only the actual player sees a normal bright screen whereas everyone else who is NOT the player sees a black screen. There are some phones that do the "privacy" screen where only the owner or the person holding it sees the screen brightly and everyone else sees a black screen. A black screen on slots will prevent onlookers from begging the player for money. "Hey, this guy has $2,000 on his screen! I think I'll ask him for $100 since I lost all my money and he has so much!" Is a big problem in a lot of casinos. A black screen would prevent that! :)
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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July 1st, 2017 at 9:38:06 PM permalink
I think the idea of a "privacy screen" might be useful for the new table game that we have been discussing on another thread - the table game is named "Easy Jack."
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July 1st, 2017 at 11:12:47 PM permalink
If I was a slot manufacturer I'd gaff the sh** outta the game.
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