Selling Exhibit CAA Beyond Counting
This thread has been approved by the Wizard himself. I'm selling my copy of Exhibit CAA. Need to get rid of it pretty quickly so please pm me any offers you might have. Thank you.
I have seen cheap sports cards that are fakes.
How would the exchange take place?Quote: TheMagicianHi all,
This thread has been approved by the Wizard himself. I'm selling my copy of Exhibit CAA. Need to get rid of it pretty quickly so please pm me any offers you might have. Thank you.
I'm mildly interested as an investment.
What do knowledgeable members think about this as an investment? lets say 5 years from now.
Can someone prove this book is real? Can you get the proper paperwork or a COA.
Will a signed copy increase or decrease the value?
Don't have a certificate of authentication or anything, but I can take as many picture as you need to determine its authenticity.
I don't know if there are any signed copies but I imagine it would only increase the value although maybe slightly.
I might be biased but I think the price of this book can only go up over time, unless James releases a new book in the future that contains everything in here and is more assessible.
Ship from where? I would prefer an in person exchange.Quote: TheMagicianYou would Paypal me the funds and I would find myself shipping it out to you.
Don't have a certificate of authentication or anything, but I can take as many picture as you need to determine its authenticity.
I don't know if there are any signed copies but I imagine it would only increase the value although maybe slightly.
I might be biased but I think the price of this book can only go up over time, unless James releases a new book in the future that contains everything in here and is more assessible.
Quote: TheMagicianAs would I but I'm I'm Santa Cruz, California. Are you close?
Thanks for taking the time to get the approval. I appreciate it, and I hope you sell the book.
Really need to sell the book soon so I'm willing to entertain reasonable offers. Don't hesitate to pm me.
I have a new contact that has a copy that is real, so perhaps I could compare with theirs... but that would involve having/seeing the book to compare.
Quote: AxelWolfAgain I have a question for the forum, how easy or hard is it to counterfeit something like this? There seems to be a few on the market right now. I hear places in china can counterfeit just about anything on the cheap.
I'm not a counterfeiting expert but I should think it would be hard. If anybody could do it, the Chinese could (forgive the stereotype). However, I don't think there is enough demand to do a proper job of it. If there are counterfeits of CAA on the market, I suspect somebody ran every page through a copier at Kinkos.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm mildly interested as an investment.
What do knowledgeable members think about this as an investment? lets say 5 years from now.
I think it would make a lousy investment. No disrespect to the book or author, but I've seen prices declining on it and Eliot's book, I'm sure, has not helped its value. However, you might offer the seller $1,000 and then sell it on Ebay, not to say he would take it. I think it would go for $1,500-$2,000 there, especially if you alert possible buyers to the auction on other gambling sites.
This is my thoughts on it as well. Especially with people selling the "notes" and photo copied versions the information is kind of out there for not all that much. If anything it's more of a collectors item.Quote: WizardI think it would make a lousy investment. No disrespect to the book or author, but I've seen prices declining on it and Eliot's book, I'm sure, has not helped its value. However, you might offer the seller $1,000 and then sell it on Ebay, not to say he would take it. I think it would go for $1,500-$2,000 there, especially if you alert possible buyers to the auction on other gambling sites.
I didn't realize the book was still dropping at that kind of rate. I might have to re-evaluate what I value it at. Thanks for your input Mike.
That's exactly what I wanted to know. I realize there are better investments but it's something that could have extra value to people I work with. Breaking even would be fine IMO. But if its dropping I'm not as interested unless it's a good price as you suggested.Quote: WizardI'm not a counterfeiting expert but I should think it would be hard. If anybody could do it, the Chinese could (forgive the stereotype). However, I don't think there is enough demand to do a proper job of it. If there are counterfeits of CAA on the market, I suspect somebody ran every page through a copier at Kinkos.
I think it would make a lousy investment. No disrespect to the book or author, but I've seen prices declining on it and Eliot's book, I'm sure, has not helped its value. However, you might offer the seller $1,000 and then sell it on Ebay, not to say he would take it. I think it would go for $1,500-$2,000 there, especially if you alert possible buyers to the auction on other gambling sites.
Romes PM me I didn't want us to bid the price up. Besides you might go broke and I can get it from you on the cheap.
If it's information you seek I don't mind sharing it as long as you're not doing lines off it.
Lets say I paypal you $1,500 for the book and you keep my cash and don't bother sending the book?
Quote: HowManySorry for asking a stupid question, but I don't know how this works.
Lets say I paypal you $1,500 for the book and you keep my cash and don't bother sending the book?
I have a lot of experience both buying and selling using paypal. When you purchase something using paypal, use a credit card as the funding source. If the transaction goes bad and paypal doesn't protect you, you can go through your credit card protections. American Express is best if you have it for protection.
Quote: HowManySorry for asking a stupid question, but I don't know how this works.
Lets say I paypal you $1,500 for the book and you keep my cash and don't bother sending the book?
I really think there's only one way - which is to have a trusted member here meet with TheMagician (whose only lack as far as I know is he's new and unknown - not casting aspersions) and look at the book. Anybody near him willing, even if you're not wanting to buy it?
A second way, less satisfactory, would be to have TheMagician take pictures of the book, both cover and open, with a post-it or something obviously not photoshopped, stuck on/in the book, maybe with a daily paper - sort of a "proof of life", Maybe TheMagician could weigh in on whether he'd be willing to do it?
I would set market value at $1,000 tops.
Or buy used from $883 to $7.000 on bookfinders. Same 7 listing I found 3 years ago.
Sure makes inventory look good when selling your used book inventory, which lots of folks are. Wonder how soon Law Journals will just be DVDS inside leather cases that look like books ? ? ?
Quote: muleyvoicehttp://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&ref=bf_s2_a1_t1_1&qi=BLcwCdcfFKCfwmDW7jpK,zyOyOw_1447905835_1:1465:2796&bq=author%3Djames%2520grosjean%26title%3Dbeyond%2520counting%2520exploiting%2520casino%2520games%2520from%2520blackjack%2520to%2520video%2520poker
Or buy used from $883 to $7.000 on bookfinders. Same 7 listing I found 3 years ago.
Sure makes inventory look good when selling your used book inventory, which lots of folks are. Wonder how soon Law Journals will just be DVDS inside leather cases that look like books ? ? ?
Those are all the original BC. The seller has BC Ex CAA.
Quote: bwI have a lot of experience both buying and selling using paypal. When you purchase something using paypal, use a credit card as the funding source. If the transaction goes bad and paypal doesn't protect you, you can go through your credit card protections. American Express is best if you have it for protection.
Some people on Ebay have shipped junk or an empty box. Then you have HELL getting a refund from Paypal with confirmed delivery. No sale equals no commision for Paypal.
ebay scammer in hot water
I'm always skeptical of anyone who "needs to sell something fast"
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If I though everything was legitimate, and I made a deal. If I couldn't meet up in person. I would give the Wizard the money(assuming he said ok) Then have the seller send him the book. I think the Wizard has one. It could be compared to his. Assuming everything was legitimate I would ask that the money to be sent to the seller. I would insist the Wizard take a small fee for his troubles.
If the seller had ANY reason not to agree with this I would automatically assume it was a scam.
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Not regarding the book but it reminds me of all the BS.
Remember the B79 bet? I was willing to put up the money. I asked him numerous times to put up the money. He avoided the conversation and or made up excuses. I knew then he was full of it. Same thing with system bettors /method players/ so called DI's or whatever the deal. They make all kinds of claims but they never put up anything or show any proof. Same story ALL them guys making claims of winning systems/ methods or whatever never put up, show up or prove anything.
Other here have made offers concerning dumb claims and it's always the same story.
On the flip side I was skeptical of Maxpen when we made a side bet regarding B79. But Max went out of his way to meet up and pony up prior to the bet.
I'm down to meet up if anyone is close, I'm in the Santa Cruz, California area.
Also, I'm down to use Wizard as a middleman.
Hardback copy in Pristine condition went for $1,137,
The paperback issue in amazon has been there for 6 years at $1,200.
Well that's great good luck I'm not going to bid with Romes I believe he will enjoy it more than me. If you care that it gets into the right hands and has a good home he's a good choice over some others.Quote: TheMagicianI sent photos of the book with a note with my name to Romes, and I can forward them to anyone who asks, just send me your email.
I'm down to meet up if anyone is close, I'm in the Santa Cruz, California area.
Also, I'm down to use Wizard as a middleman.
If he keeps playing 6 to 5 BJ it's mine soon anyways (-:
Ps. He's probably practicing JG's signature as we speak (-;
Hit the link, then when at ebay click on us2015-merja. This is the guy who sold the 200 gambling books.
Talk about a great plot ? ? ?
I don't get it.Quote: muleyvoicehttp://www.ebay.com/sch/us2015-merja/m.html?item=151788163023&hash=item2357478fcf%3Ag%3APiEAAOSw3ydVykL1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Hit the link, then when at ebay click on us2015-merja. This is the guy who sold the 200 gambling books.
Talk about a great plot ? ? ?
Quote: AxelWolf
If he keeps playing 6 to 5 BJ it's mine soon anyways (-:
What's wrong with 6:5? 6:5 SD/DD is where it's at for hole carding and card steering, and they're protected for s$%^.
6/5 will pay off sometime!!! I can't lose THAT many times in a row =P. Appreciate the vote of confidence =).Quote: AxelWolfWell that's great good luck I'm not going to bid with Romes I believe he will enjoy it more than me. If you care that it gets into the right hands and has a good home he's a good choice over some others.
If he keeps playing 6 to 5 BJ it's mine soon anyways (-:
Ps. He's probably practicing JG's signature as we speak (-;
I've got the signature down! It's just the spelling that gets me every time lol. Could you imagine a 'signed copy' with the wrong spelling of the name hah.
Quote: RomesDoes anyone have a copy they'd be willing to take a couple quick pics of for me to cross reference to verify authenticity? A random page from the front, middle, and back so that they can be matched? It would be greatly appreciated! Just PM me and I'll give you an email =).
I volunteer.
...as tribute!Quote: WizardI volunteer.
Thanks for the pics Mike, I greatly appreciate them!!
Quote: RomesThanks for the pics Mike, I greatly appreciate them!!
You're welcome. May the odds be forever in your favor.
