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coilman
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September 24th, 2015 at 12:14:35 AM permalink
With the recent news about VW and their diesel engines being programmed to KNOW when to cheat

one has to wonder where else could computers be programmed to SKIRT THE RULES to a company's advantage


$9,000,000,000 put aside to start covering the FRAUD cases that are going to roll in like a tsunami

first the peanut butter executive getting 28 yrs in jail now the VW boss wishing he had a summer home on a far far away planet

THIS was being done by the worlds largest car company for 6 years without being caught
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September 24th, 2015 at 1:14:00 AM permalink
Quote: coilman

With the recent news about VW and their diesel engines being programmed to KNOW when to cheat

one has to wonder where else could computers be programmed to SKIRT THE RULES to a company's advantage


$9,000,000,000 put aside to start covering the FRAUD cases that are going to roll in like a tsunami

first the peanut butter executive getting 28 yrs in jail now the VW boss wishing he had a summer home on a far far away planet

THIS was being done but the worlds largest car company for 6 years without being caught

Next time someone claims a casino wouldn't dare cheat because of this or that, they really shouldn't use that as an argument.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 24th, 2015 at 2:13:39 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Next time someone claims a casino wouldn't dare cheat because of this or that, they really shouldn't use that as an argument.

I agree.

They should use THIS post as the argument/example:

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September 24th, 2015 at 2:42:52 PM permalink
Casinos aren't all "outstanding regulated businesses"... They're quite often a group of greedy men whom want more money year after year even though they sucked all they could out of people the year prior. They don't care about people's well beings (from the countless times I've seen blacked out guys betting $1k-$5k per hand struggling to even pick up the chips), and I don't see why these same types of people wouldn't care about bending, or breaking other rules too.

Reminds me of the phrase "What do all men with power want? ...More power."
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September 24th, 2015 at 3:30:38 PM permalink
I've thought that online casinos could simply flip the "audit" switch as well when they know they are going to be looked at.
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September 26th, 2015 at 1:11:03 PM permalink
I think the VW share owners who took a total bath the past week and will continue to feel the pain of this over the next few years should get to vote on how much pension the BOSS MAN gets. They are saying the fines in the United States alone could reach $18 BILLION over all this

but the BOSS who left the FIRE will be cashing in LARGE

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/sep/24/vw-emissions-scandal-boss-martin-winterkorn-pension-pot
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September 26th, 2015 at 6:00:31 PM permalink
So as far as Industry and cutting corners/ethics, it is a slippery slope. We have ALL seen it where we work at one time or another. Unfortunately.....
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November 5th, 2015 at 7:12:16 AM permalink
http://business.financialpost.com/news/transportation/volkwagen-ag-cheated-on-pollution-tests-in-other-vehicles-including-porsche-epa-says

Some news reports have this VW scandal costing them upwards of $87 BILLION to settle everything.

Seems each day VW comes out telling the public of another CHEAT they had installed...currently all 2016 cars with diesel engines are not for sale.....as VW disclosed there was some other cheating system installed in these cars.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/volkswagen-halting-sales-of-audi-vw-30-litre-diesels-in-us-canada/article27098820/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/vw-shares-fuel-consumption-1.3303193


I can't help but ask myself.....is the RNG in those poker machines gaffed too? Why if its random does every second hand seem to end with a four card flush or four card straight?

Nah no chance in hell a casino would gaff the RNG to their advantage....why would they>? Why would VW cheat on so many engines ( over 11 million of them on the road) when they are the worlds largest car maker?

Just like the offshore online casino one must ask themselves do you really trust them anymore?
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November 5th, 2015 at 12:25:31 PM permalink
Table Games! ...They can't program the real cards =D.


...yet =/
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November 5th, 2015 at 1:32:04 PM permalink
Quote: coilman

http://business.financialpost.com/news/transportation/volkwagen-ag-cheated-on-pollution-tests-in-other-vehicles-including-porsche-epa-says

Some news reports have this VW scandal costing them upwards of $87 BILLION to settle everything.

Seems each day VW comes out telling the public of another CHEAT they had installed...currently all 2016 cars with diesel engines are not for sale.....as VW disclosed there was some other cheating system installed in these cars.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/volkswagen-halting-sales-of-audi-vw-30-litre-diesels-in-us-canada/article27098820/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/vw-shares-fuel-consumption-1.3303193


I can't help but ask myself.....is the RNG in those poker machines gaffed too? Why if its random does every second hand seem to end with a four card flush or four card straight?

Nah no chance in hell a casino would gaff the RNG to their advantage....why would they>? Why would VW

I never liked that argument either. It's been done before.

Meanwhile VP AP's keep making money and it's rare to find full pay machines.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 20th, 2015 at 4:49:02 PM permalink
And here again on a Friday afternoon VW confesses to more cheating that they did.

Not a single diesel engine car from 2009-2016 it seems was legit.

$87 BILLION maybe to resolve this....the guy that reported this cheating is going to be extremely rich..... or found dead


http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2015/11/20/volkswagen-epa-emissions-scandal-environmental-protection-agency-3-liter-diesel/76111106/
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November 20th, 2015 at 4:59:49 PM permalink
Quote: coilman

$87 BILLION maybe to resolve this....the guy that reported this cheating is going to be extremely rich..... or found dead



How would he get extremely rich?
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November 20th, 2015 at 5:23:24 PM permalink
If the EPA takes in oh say $20 Billion in fines for this one would think those that pointed out the infraction will be well taken care of....but who knows.
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November 21st, 2015 at 2:07:50 AM permalink
Quote: coilman

If the EPA takes in oh say $20 Billion in fines for this one would think those that pointed out the infraction will be well taken care of....but who knows.


You're having a laugh !

Those who pointed out the infraction surely won't get a bean or even a bit of thanks. They may well get death threats or worse if their identities get revealed.
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November 22nd, 2015 at 6:14:29 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Those who pointed out the infraction surely won't get a bean or even a bit of thanks. They may well get death threats or worse if their identities get revealed.

This isn't a secret. The Man who Discovered the VW Emissions Scandal
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