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February 8th, 2015 at 1:26:19 AM permalink
No one else qualifies. Only his ass. Michael Shackleford has an open invitatrion to meet me in Montana. He has an open right to figure out the machine plays that I know. But I guarantee you one thing. That little country punk ain't gonna figure out one thing about the plays in Montana without my instruction. Open invitation, Shack. Dont worry. You will be under my protection while you are in Montana. If they even attempt, I will shut them down right in their spot. There is one thing that everyone knows in this state it is mickey crimm tellling them that this out of towner, this out of state person, is his friend.
When I introduce you to them with my endorsememt they are going to treat you better than gold. They will love because you are Mickey Crimm's friend.
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February 8th, 2015 at 1:34:10 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

No one else qualifies. Only his ass. Michael Shackleford has an open invitatrion to meet me in Montana. He has an open right to figure out the machine plays that I know. But I guarantee you one thing. That little country punk ain't gonna figure out one thing about the plays in Montana without my instruction. Open invitation, Shack. Dont worry. You will be under my protection while you are in Montana. If they even attempt, I will shut them down right in their spot. There is one thing that everyone knows in this state it is mickey crimm tellling them that this out of towner, this out of state person, is his friend.
When I introduce you to them with my endorsememt they are going to treat you better than gold. They will love because you are Mickey Crimm's friend.



You have to come to Montana, Shack. And you have to meet the big bad dude. Face to face. I know you have the guts, brother.
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February 8th, 2015 at 2:12:23 AM permalink
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February 8th, 2015 at 4:31:15 AM permalink
on a bender, Mr Crimm?
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February 8th, 2015 at 5:06:35 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

No one else qualifies. Only his ass. Michael Shackleford has an open invitatrion to meet me in Montana. He has an open right to figure out the machine plays that I know. But I guarantee you one thing. That little country punk ain't gonna figure out one thing about the plays in Montana without my instruction. Open invitation, Shack. Dont worry. You will be under my protection while you are in Montana. If they even attempt, I will shut them down right in their spot. There is one thing that everyone knows in this state it is mickey crimm tellling them that this out of towner, this out of state person, is his friend.
When I introduce you to them with my endorsememt they are going to treat you better than gold. They will love because you are Mickey Crimm's friend.



Should the Wizard bring the secret administrator as a bodyguard if he decides to go? What is the definition of "little country punk" or do you know one when you see one?
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February 8th, 2015 at 7:07:13 AM permalink
Grandeur, just a bit.
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February 8th, 2015 at 7:47:44 AM permalink
Legend in one's own mind, perhaps?
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February 8th, 2015 at 8:10:02 AM permalink
Quote: bobbannon

Legend in one's own mind, perhaps?


Aren't we all? Shouldn't we be?
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February 8th, 2015 at 8:16:21 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

When I introduce you to them with my endorsememt they are going to treat you better than gold. They will love because you are Mickey Crimm's friend.


Reminds me of all those arguments that even if the self exists, that doesn't mean the other exists... this desperately trying to define yourself however.
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February 8th, 2015 at 9:14:02 AM permalink
Quote: Kerkebet

Reminds me of all those arguments that even if the self exists, that doesn't mean the other exists... this desperately trying to define yourself however.

Its seems better then the alternative, until it doesn't. Then what is left, is what is.

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February 8th, 2015 at 9:20:44 AM permalink
Dude you need to quit drinking
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February 8th, 2015 at 10:38:04 AM permalink
As with many amusing police reports, "alcohol was believed to be a contributing factor".

Keep 'em coming, Mickey.
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February 8th, 2015 at 11:23:51 AM permalink
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Dude you need to quit drinking

that's like asking Catholic priests to stop molesting children or cops to stop stealing money, ain't gonna happen
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February 8th, 2015 at 11:28:35 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

on a bender, Mr Crimm?



No, I happen to be cold sober right now. A slight hangover but I think I'll make it. So I invited Shack to Montana, huh? I hate it when I do stupid stuff like that. The man could expose all my plays. But I'm a man of my word....I think. If my drunk ass invited him here then my sober ass will back it up. Come on up, Shack. I'll show you around.
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February 8th, 2015 at 11:44:46 AM permalink
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February 8th, 2015 at 11:57:58 AM permalink
Quote: teddys



Thanks, teddys. But upon Evenbob's advice I've switched to Tito's Vodka. It's been distilled six times. The hangovers aren't so bad. So I start out with a Tito's screwdriver and a shot of Tito's.
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February 8th, 2015 at 12:24:27 PM permalink
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I saw either her or her double performing "Black Velvet" in the Rendezvous bar in Kodiak when Joey fender was on break. Walking among us the audience of about 75 people and wailing this song. She took sexy to a whole new level. I don't recall what prompted it but she gave me a very nice hug. I guess she must have thought that I would let go, well I finally did but not willingly.

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February 8th, 2015 at 12:39:16 PM permalink
The Wiz should take Mickey up on this.
Now if he catches Mickey sober, he gets a tour of the sites.
He catches Mickey after he's had a few, Mickey may share some secrets :-)
What are the odds of Mick being sober or a few sheets to the wind?
I can picture it now, Mickey after a few has the attitude of, let me show you how its done young one.
The Wiz should time an evening arrival, what are the odds Mick has already had a few :-)
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February 8th, 2015 at 12:54:33 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph



I saw either her or her double performing "Black Velvet" in the Rendezvous bar in Kodiak when Joey fender was on break. Walking among us the audience of about 75 people and wailing this song. She took sexy to a whole new level. I don't recall what prompted it but she gave me a very nice hug. I guess she must have thought that I would let go, well I finally did but not willingly.



I also saw Alannah shortly after Black Velvet came out at whatever that small place was down in the Flats. This was 25-ish years ago. But I do remember that she played up the sexy angle quite nicely with her outfit.
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February 8th, 2015 at 1:03:56 PM permalink
My guess mickey is 5'6 but 10' tall sitting on a bar stool.
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February 8th, 2015 at 1:58:08 PM permalink
I call Michael Shackleford "the John Scarne of the 21st century." Except he is much more advanced than Scarne. Those of us in the gambling world are so much richer because of him. Just perusing his site you can tell he has a tremendous love for analyzing gambling games. If Mike were to visit Montana he would find a treasure trove of video poker, video keno and video line games that he has never seen before. It would add a great deal to his body work. That should be enough incentive to get him to visit Montana.

Mike, educated persons like yourself might be a little afraid me because my brovada. But they have an old saying in Mississippi about guys like me. "I have an alligator mouth and a hummingbird ass."
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February 8th, 2015 at 2:05:29 PM permalink
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brovada. "

You have brovada, he had Bovada. Whats a couple million and a letter among friends?
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February 8th, 2015 at 2:37:29 PM permalink
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My guess mickey is 5'6 but 10' tall sitting on a bar stool.



6 foot tall....240 pounds...junior.
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February 8th, 2015 at 2:56:51 PM permalink
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6 foot tall....240 pounds...junior.



Ev'ry mornin' at the mine you could see him arrive

He stood six foot six and weighed two forty five

Kinda broad at the shoulder and narrow at the hip

And everybody knew, ya didn't give no lip to Big John

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February 8th, 2015 at 3:01:46 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

6 foot tall....240 pounds...junior.


Quote:

bravado

noun
pretended courage or defiant confidence when one is really afraid

Origin of bravado
altered ; from Spanish bravada ; from bravo, brave


We "squares" have a saying too, "Out of sight, out of mind."
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February 8th, 2015 at 3:52:16 PM permalink
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My guess mickey is 5'6 but 10' tall sitting on a bar stool.

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February 8th, 2015 at 4:00:13 PM permalink
I thought all the talk, bragging and challenges were due to adult beverages, but now he's saying he's sober so now I revert to my 2nd diagnosis, which is spot on! Classic Dr. ZCore13's professional medical opinion


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February 8th, 2015 at 5:16:52 PM permalink
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I thought all the talk, bragging and challenges were due to adult beverages, but now he's saying he's sober so now I revert to my 2nd diagnosis, which is spot on! Classic Dr. ZCore13's professional medical opinion


ZCore13



I think that is good, Z. I think that is a relative description of me. I personally think that I am a narcissist of the innocent kind. I can just verify you for one thing, Z. I'M one of the best machine pros on the planet and you ain't.
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February 8th, 2015 at 6:43:30 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Ev'ry mornin' at the mine you could see him arrive

He stood six foot six and weighed two forty five

Kinda broad at the shoulder and narrow at the hip

And everybody knew, ya didn't give no lip to Big John

Big John, Big Bad John - Jimmy Dean - 1961.



Great song. But I wouldn't consider myself in Big John's class.
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February 8th, 2015 at 7:12:10 PM permalink
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6 foot tall....240 pounds...junior.

Could have sworn a Napoleon complex. I'm taller than you shorty. Six two wearing shoes. I put 6'1" on my drivers license so the police won't find me unless I'm barefoot. lol
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February 8th, 2015 at 7:27:54 PM permalink
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so the police won't find me unless I'm barefoot. lol

Unfortunately that's usually the case when they are looking for you.
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February 8th, 2015 at 8:30:39 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

on a bender, Mr Crimm?



Dang it, I read that last night and I was gonna ask the same thing.
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February 8th, 2015 at 11:22:51 PM permalink
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Could have sworn a Napoleon complex. I'm taller than you shorty. Six two wearing shoes. I put 6'1" on my drivers license so the police won't find me unless I'm barefoot. lol



How good are you at wearing a right cross on your jaw?
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February 9th, 2015 at 5:05:30 AM permalink
Am I the only one that finds it amusing / telling that Mike has ignored this thread?
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February 9th, 2015 at 5:12:39 AM permalink
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Am I the only one that finds it amusing / telling that Mike has ignored this thread?



I was thinking the same
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February 9th, 2015 at 5:25:44 AM permalink
Can you imagine if he did accept the invitation? I see the potential for a record breaking thread.
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February 9th, 2015 at 5:47:56 AM permalink
Sorry for the late arrival. I'd like to thank Mickey for the invitation. I already knew that Montana was a haven for unusual games. I've designed a bunch of keno games for somebody who made them for the Montana market. I told them that their ideas were way too bizarre and complicated but they said players in Montana liked them that way. There is no doubt I would come away with lots of new games to analyze.

Another good reason to go is I've been to 47 of the 50 states. The three I'm missing are Montana, North Dakota, and Kentucky. There is chance I'll go to Kentucky in April, by the way, which would leave just two.

However, the new boss has me busy analyzing games for Internet casinos and I think he would correctly say my efforts are better spent on that than a bunch of eccentric games that can be found only in Montana. Nevertheless, it would be my great pleasure to meet Mickey. Hopefully the drinking would be in moderation and he harbors no hard feelings for the many times I've banned him. If I didn't return -- you know who to suspect.
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February 9th, 2015 at 6:20:31 AM permalink
Now that's a trip report I'd love to read.
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February 9th, 2015 at 9:02:40 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

My efforts are better spent on that than a bunch of eccentric games that can be found only in Montana. Nevertheless, it would be my great pleasure to meet Mickey. Hopefully the drinking would be in moderation and he harbors no hard feelings for the many times I've banned him. If I didn't return -- you know who to suspect.



Quote: Greasyjohn

Now that's a trip report I'd love to read.


I think you hitherto did.

It's called letting the guy down gently. After all, mc wrote that he would do the analyses more or less, himself. Nay, of such a great body of work in itself as to naturally be applicable across the board.

Incidentally at his (the) forum more or less, Alan Mendelson recently told mc that if he thought mc could actually win anything [substantial], he'd bring his camera crew to Montana. But Alan's penchant for not letting mc and others down gently resulted in a "blow me" moment of a different nature, and mc's nuking from there. Alan saved himself.

But mc seems to continue to offer the same drunken "exclusivity" to the others... and always on his own, exclusive terms.
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February 9th, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM permalink
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I told them that their ideas were way too bizarre and complicated but they said players in Montana liked them that way.

If it involved Montana and sheep, are you sure you were looking at a gambling site and not a dating service?
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February 9th, 2015 at 4:54:23 PM permalink
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However, the new boss has me busy analyzing games for Internet casinos

Hopefully this won't happen agian https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/online/19770-bonus-poker-game-with-101-41-return/#post402646
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February 12th, 2015 at 5:56:27 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Sorry for the late arrival. I'd like to thank Mickey for the invitation. I already knew that Montana was a haven for unusual games. I've designed a bunch of keno games for somebody who made them for the Montana market. I told them that their ideas were way too bizarre and complicated but they said players in Montana liked them that way. There is no doubt I would come away with lots of new games to analyze.

Another good reason to go is I've been to 47 of the 50 states. The three I'm missing are Montana, North Dakota, and Kentucky. There is chance I'll go to Kentucky in April, by the way, which would leave just two.

However, the new boss has me busy analyzing games for Internet casinos and I think he would correctly say my efforts are better spent on that than a bunch of eccentric games that can be found only in Montana. Nevertheless, it would be my great pleasure to meet Mickey. Hopefully the drinking would be in moderation and he harbors no hard feelings for the many times I've banned him. If I didn't return -- you know who to suspect.



Actually, you wouldn't find me drinking. Mike. You would find me in total spin dry mode and showing you nothing but professional courtesy to you. I wouldn't even have a beer or two with you. But if I see that you just want to get drinker than a pig then I'll probably start downing shots with you just to watch myself have to pour you into bed.

The whole thing would be nothing but professional courtesy on my part. All I could do is show you around. You certainly don't need my help analyzing games. I think it would be a kick in the pants to see the wheels of your brain klicking thru your eyes as I show you certain games. That would be reward enough for me. And maybe I might ask you to not write about certain games.
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February 23rd, 2015 at 1:37:05 PM permalink
Quote: Kerkebet

Incidentally at his (the) forum more or less, Alan Mendelson recently told mc that if he thought mc could actually win anything [substantial], he'd bring his camera crew to Montana. But Alan's penchant for not letting mc and others down gently resulted in a "blow me" moment of a different nature, and mc's nuking from there. Alan saved himself.



It was Alan Mendelson that caused me to start the Accumulator Slots thread here on WoV. On his site, Alan totally rejected my explanation of accumulator slots, how they work, and how I exploit them. He called me a bad gambler with bad science. Only someone with a severe lack of knowledge about machines and how they work would say such a thing.

So I searched the internet for pictures of these games, put the accumulator slot thread up here on WoV, showed pictures of games I exploited, and explained how I exploited them....because I knew that Alan lurked this site and occasionally posted. While anyone can join WoV, there are some very elite machine pros here, along with elite gamblers in other areas, along with some of the best gambling math guys in the world, and also several designers of slot games who work in the industry. And I knew that they would be very willing to correct me if I got anything wrong in the accumulator slot thread. So, Alan, if you go through the thread you will not find any one of these elites correcting me on anything or calling me a bad gambler with bad science. That opinion just belongs to you....and, of course, your opinion is misguided. If you want, you can go jump in that thread and tell us all how it is bad science.

Oh, kerkebet, one more thing. The quote about karoake. I deliberately didn't reveal I was quoting someone because I thought it would garner some interest. It did. I intended to reveal the source of the quote the next day, but, unfortunately, I got my butt suspended again. So I will repeat the quote here giving credit to the source.

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In my wildest dreams I never suspected you would question my literacy over it. I have some quotes of my own. Look below at my tag line.
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February 23rd, 2015 at 3:45:47 PM permalink
Quote: Kerkebet

Incidentally at his (the) forum more or less, Alan Mendelson recently told mc that if he thought mc could actually win anything [substantial], he'd bring his camera crew to Montana.



I told Alan what my daily average was. I don't measure it by the year, month or even the week. Some days I'll go out and only make a couple of hundred dollars....which always pisses me off. I feel like I got cheated out of $350. That's what caused Alan to tell me that if it were true he would put me on TV. I told him no way in hell would I go on TV and expose my plays to the world. I make the money that I do because no one else here, except one other person (he works the east side of the state), has the knowledge. The money is not infinite. If just a few more top notch pros were to pile into this state then we would all be on starvation wages. There's not that much money to chop up. But I told Alan that if he wanted to take a Montana vacation (I know he is not going to move here) I would let him follow me around and watch me pick off money for as many days as he wanted to. Then he could make up his mind if I was lying or not. So far he has refused to accept the offer.
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February 23rd, 2015 at 6:32:18 PM permalink
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February 23rd, 2015 at 7:37:09 PM permalink
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It was Alan Mendelson that caused me to start the Accumulator Slots thread here on WoV. On his site, Alan totally rejected my explanation of accumulator slots, how they work, and how I exploit them. He called me a bad gambler with bad science. .

I'm not sure why he would reject your explanation on how they worked and call it bad science.

Perhaps he wanted exact numbers like you would have in games like VP, Keno, craps etc etc. What he may not understand is that there was a lot of educated guesswork going on because most people didn't have access to the par sheets. You didn't have time to track every slot and even if you did that's not always 100% accurate.
It didn't take rocket science to figure out you had a huge advantage if alls you had to do is get 1 easy symbol to collect a bonus of $100 when that symbol came up fairly quickly, say within 25 spins at $per bet.

The most simple to explain is a temperature Rising slot with a 100 meter temperature sitting at 99. You could be retarded and realize thats next to a guaranteed win.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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