beachbumbabs
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June 28th, 2014 at 1:32:28 AM permalink
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Be careful John. I said he had integrity and caught fire from all quarters.



Given the purpose of what he's doing, I would guess he is pretty effective, or he wouldn't draw fire; there's no sense trying to run someone out of business or discredit them unless they're a threat. So every AP that hates on him just raises his credibility another notch with his customers.
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Carlos
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June 28th, 2014 at 3:13:23 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

what triggered the minor suspensions 2 times before that was that you attacked the same person in a damaging and derogatory way, not his posts or POV.

This simply has to be a JOKE

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Quote: DMSCR
Hey Peter Keating, don't feel so cocky now? LOL.



"After what was a very successful Baccarat jaunt on the Gold Coast, I was playing at an extremely slow table which was severely screwing my head, the combination of the card squeezing, being continually giving duff cards to open such as a "three side and no side" which turned out to be an 8 and an 3 or a 7 and 4 or BJ (wrong table), the totally inapt slow dealer was getting to me. My final lost bet of 500 was placed on the wrong side (shit happens). So I hot trot to the VIP area for a fast recoup and got well and truly nailed.

That was a crazy situation with a pit boss gawping from one side and another staff member grinning from the other, I spoke up and said "what the fuck is going, would you like a seat", so the pit boss told the staff member to find something to do, which invited comments from the dealer who was loving every minute of my demise and melt down, something that doesn't happen often but can happen.

Licking my wounds, I now find myself in the situation of having to do it all over again, Not entirely fazed by that, because I've done it many times in the past, grinding out 20k per month, yet I find it so mentally draining to be so far ahead and having to restart all over. My question to veteran board members, it there any decent literature on the web, book recommendations that deal with these rare and unfortunate aspects of gambling."

and

Those links you posted DMSCR from the defunct BF site, (pretty sure it is not the first time you have posted them,hmm guessed right, you sure like to emphasize your vindictive nature)



Obvious common theme here gutter snipe are (were) the rules equally applied to all, or does it depend on the target, or how the mods are feeling, or maybe they are simply just more new rules?

offense #1 7 days
offense #2 14 days
offense #3 31 days

Then you consider the deep rooted issue behind it all, evident in most of the posts manthropology
Appears to be an obvious case of constant trolling, the member seems to have a fixation, other than some mumbo jumbo about having the deluded ability to see patterns inside patterns, plus the odd thought about how little can he bet while seated at the back of the bus thinking about hookers, members have been toasted for far far less.

Now I've always held that the WOO is the best gambling site on the internet, it certainly helped me in my early days, including my time spent playing BJ, so I wouldn't be so ungracious not to help out the Wizard during his time of need, but please given the blinkered bias moderation that goes on in this place, it would be rather foolish for me to do so.

Finally kind of confirms it all along It is heart-warming so many willing to contribute to asist anothers business decisions, you should be commended, would love to help, but have an issue regarding longevity.
DMSCR
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June 28th, 2014 at 6:54:38 PM permalink
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165

Welcome back Carlos! I mean egalite. Or is that RolexWatch, evoque, GodofBacc, Natural9, PeteKeating, Guest2, Tieland, Standoff, etc.... I lost track.

Always knew egalite also went by Bmayo319 in trying to skirt his ban! Looks like his definition of Losses In A Row (LIAR) takes another meaning along with his constant drawdowns. LOL. Trolling at its very finest to the Nth power.

Now back to topic....

Looks like even the AP folks have their own little gripe with each other as well. Wonder who was the first one to fire that shot that backstabbed everyone. GBV (John May) has been around gambling forums for a very long time. From what I remember when folks questioned about his baccarat knowledge he tended to either ignore the question or he disappears for a while. Don't know about teliot either. I mean if both May's and Jacobson's findings are as profitable and concrete as they claim why publish them to the public? Just go ahead and quietly take on the tables while staying under the radar.

Yet GBV's issues with teliot does hold some weight.
AxelWolf
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July 3rd, 2014 at 2:49:30 PM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

. Wonder who was the first one to fire that shot that backstabbed everyone. GBV (John May) has been around gambling forums for a very long time.

The Backstabbing happened before gambling forums.

Unless we are talking about Edge sorting or some real Baccarat advantage there is nothing really to be a backstabber about in Baccarat. Baccarat AP is an oxymoron.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
DMSCR
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July 3rd, 2014 at 4:09:16 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

The Backstabbing happened before gambling forums.



Ahhhh..... I learn something new each and every day. If teliot did backstab people who trusted him then that would be a no no. Then GBV's issue(s) with him would be quite understandable. I don't know what went on but looks like this has been going on for years and years!

If this is true then GBV shouldn't be so heavily punished for his gripe?
beachbumbabs
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July 3rd, 2014 at 5:10:10 PM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

Ahhhh..... I learn something new each and every day. If teliot did backstab people who trusted him then that would be a no no. Then GBV's issue(s) with him would be quite understandable. I don't know what went on but looks like this has been going on for years and years!

If this is true then GBV shouldn't be so heavily punished for his gripe?



Regardless of the nature of the dispute, the only objective way to deal with these things is to go by the forum rules. GBV made personally insulting remarks to/about teliot at least twice (I'm not counting everything he ever said, just those for which I gave him suspensions). At the second suspension, GBV chose to create a second persona rather than wait out his suspension and then continue his argument. That is not allowed, and the penalty is a nuke.

Same situation as Carlos/egalite/a dozen other names. Except it's aimed at you. And, these days, me for continuing to whack-a-mole. Every time he pops up in a new persona, I have to nuke him.

If you want the rules changed in some way, I suggest you PM the Wizard with your suggestion. Short of that, this is how it works here.

I would also add that I find it distasteful and non-productive to reiterate arguments from other forums, and past grievances from a long time ago. Let's live in the world as it is and move on, please. Thanks.
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AxelWolf
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July 3rd, 2014 at 5:29:24 PM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

Ahhhh..... I learn something new each and every day. If teliot did backstab people who trusted him then that would be a no no. Then GBV's issue(s) with him would be quite understandable. I don't know what went on but looks like this has been going on for years and years!

If this is true then GBV shouldn't be so heavily punished for his gripe?

I don't know what exactly GBV is accusing Eliot of doing. If it was something personal or just something in general. I don't think you can just bash someone, even if its a true statement. I might be an ass but, you cant call me an ass on the forum.

If GBV or his AP was outed, being suspended from this forum is insignificant. If your making money gambling, spending less time on forums is a good thing.

I get the fact some people just like to play make-believe that they are able to beat -EV games and they play very rarely or just plain lose.Talking about it on the forums is the only real play they have.

The forums help some guys avoid reality, it gives them some kind of ego boost if they succeed in fooling just one person.

Perhaps they use the forums to make up stories as to how well they doing, In hopes they get PM's from a few suckers that will put up money for them(you only need one good sucker). I can then understand their want & need to keep from being suspended, its costs them money and opportunities.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
DMSCR
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July 3rd, 2014 at 5:49:00 PM permalink
Ya know what? AGREED on all fronts!

Mike's board. Mike's rules as many of you have stated. Don't think I want to expend time and energy in trying to change whatever board rules that have been placed in any forum. Not my business. Either I play by the rules or I remove myself.

As for GBV and teliot as I have stated before if their findings are concrete just head to the tables and grind your coin. All this internet back and forth is blah.
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November 19th, 2018 at 11:08:33 PM permalink
I noticed you can't send messages to Telliot, probably for the best. I've always appreciated the information on his site. I know he sold his site to 888. There are broken PDF links on the site I was just going to ask if he would mind emailing me. If not, no biggie really, but was just curious if he's still active here or I should ask a few others for an email (was trying not to bother him in his inbox, so I guess I assumed the forums would be a good place to reach out).
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