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ComplexEnigma
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October 6th, 2013 at 9:39:48 PM permalink
So I know most (if not all) of the progressive jackpot bets are massive sucker bets, and I know most of people on here don't play them. I normally don't play them, but I know I start to fill with a bit of dread when I start in range of getting that Royal that pays $65,000 or what have you. I haven't actually had a hand that would have won a big jackpot ($5,000+) but I'm not looking forward to the day it happens (and the dealers would never let me live it down).

Has anyone here missed out on one of those big jackpots? How much flak did you get for it from other players/dealer/wife? As I think more on it, I think the guy sitting next to you obviously in too deep hoping for some big jackpot to save his night would be even more crushed that he watched another player throw away the jackpot he so sorely needs.

Also reminds me of a story a dealer told me. The game was Pai Gow Poker. There's a side bet that pays like $50,000 if you get a 7 card royal flush, with like a $2,000 envy bonus for each person playing the side bet. Well this guy gets it, but he's not playing the side bet. So he starts trying to get the other players to share some of the envy bonus with him. No one wanted to share, so the guy mucked his hand and no one got a dime for the 7 card royal.
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October 6th, 2013 at 10:43:19 PM permalink
Quote: ComplexEnigma

So I know most (if not all) of the progressive jackpot bets are massive sucker bets, and I know most of people on here don't play them. I normally don't play them, but I know I start to fill with a bit of dread when I start in range of getting that Royal that pays $65,000 or what have you. I haven't actually had a hand that would have won a big jackpot ($5,000+) but I'm not looking forward to the day it happens (and the dealers would never let me live it down).

Has anyone here missed out on one of those big jackpots? How much flak did you get for it from other players/dealer/wife? As I think more on it, I think the guy sitting next to you obviously in too deep hoping for some big jackpot to save his night would be even more crushed that he watched another player throw away the jackpot he so sorely needs.

Also reminds me of a story a dealer told me. The game was Pai Gow Poker. There's a side bet that pays like $50,000 if you get a 7 card royal flush, with like a $2,000 envy bonus for each person playing the side bet. Well this guy gets it, but he's not playing the side bet. So he starts trying to get the other players to share some of the envy bonus with him. No one wanted to share, so the guy mucked his hand and no one got a dime for the 7 card royal.

Perhaps Micky C has heard about this story as well, he could tell the story way better then me.

I Was NOT sitting at the table at the time I was simply watching the game while waiting for a seat.

This was in Laughlin at the river side Poker Room. They had a bad beat Jackpot for 50k, Everyone played 2-6, some of us played NL overs in the game.

There was an old guy, they called him Honda, I believe they called him that Because he always wore a baseball cap that said, Honda on it. Honda played that game just about everyday for fun and social reason only. Roomer was he had tons of money. He often played with a guy not as old, who lived mainly from paycheck to paycheck, (Probably SSI and a small poker profit ).I'll call him Bob Because he reminds me of Bob and I cant remember his real name. Him and Honda did not get along, they absolutely hated and despised each other with a passion. Over what, I don't know.

One day Honda and Bob were in a heated poker hand together, They Re raised the pot on each street. They had already had words at the table that day so tension was high .

Excitement and Whispers of a bad beat were being passed around.

At the end of the hand Bob turns over his four of a kind first. Honda pauses for a few minuets. Bob starts Yacking... then Honda slowly shows his str8 flush and says, "I would rather die then see you get any money, and shoves his hand into the muck".
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 6th, 2013 at 10:47:42 PM permalink
First time I hit the floor trying to CC. Went along with three of my ploppy buddies who are throwing in for the side bet all night. I'm trying to slowly grind red chips (I ended up quite a few units down that night), and along comes the 1000 to 1 payout to my hand which of course I had not bet on. They gave me such a hard time the rest of the night I couldn't even keep my RC!

Since then I've never gone out with them.
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October 6th, 2013 at 11:55:21 PM permalink
Fortunately for me not a huge one, but scared the crap out of me.

I was young and stupid and decide to try Caribbean Stud for the first time. The progressive was the lowest I think I have ever seen it, $30,000, so I had enough math smarts not to play it. 2nd hand in I got 4 to a Royal that made a flush; the dealer failed to qualify, obv. I almost had a heart attack.
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October 7th, 2013 at 1:08:34 AM permalink
I got dealt a 7-card straight flush in Pai Gow at Red Rock when I did not bet the $1 side bet. The jackpot was "only" $58k, which is about 25% of what it needs to be for it to be a good bet. My consolation prize was a $10 comp.
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October 7th, 2013 at 1:50:59 AM permalink
I live in terror of folding the bad beat... I've folded qualifying hands often enough.
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
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October 7th, 2013 at 3:02:48 AM permalink
I once saw a lady not win $80k at the 4 Queens. She was not playing the $1 progressive bonus at the Texas Hold'em Bonus table. The guy to her left was a total dick about it too. I felt really bad for her.
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October 7th, 2013 at 8:28:43 AM permalink
It wasn't a Progressive, but it would be a Side Bet jackpot:

On one occasion, I would have hit the Mini-Royal Three-Card Bonus in LiR, which I wasn't on, because it's a terrible bet and the Paytable at that casino is the crappiest available. AKQ, Hearts, dealt to me in that order!!! I picked them up as QKA, but the rightmost card was the one dealt to me first!

Ended up losing $10, of course, have to Let it Ride on three-to-a-Royal, dealer's first card was a 2c, took the second bet back, forget the second dealer's card, but it resulted in a loss...I want to say it was a Seven of some kind, but not quite sure.

The guy sitting next to me (who had been playing the Side Bet) absolutely flipped the f*** out on me, I'd guess that if he had hit it, he'd still be behind on the side bet...if that tells you anything. He also did not play the Base Game according to Optimal Strategy or anything close to Optimal. After his two-minute tirade, I said, "Listen, you want to make my Side Bet for me, go ahead, I won't gip you if it wins."

He started doing that, lost his money faster and left the table before me. For my part, I ended up Three to a SF 5-6-7, drew a suited Queen, and then a suited Nine for the $120 Flush. I was already $50 ahead, at that point, so I tipped $20 and left $150 ahead.

I know, huge tip, don't even say it. They love me at the Craps Table.
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October 7th, 2013 at 8:55:54 AM permalink
The wonderful new 3 Card Poker Mini Royal Progressive Jackpot had a Non Bet/No pay out situation that I witnessed.

There is a cranky, older man that frequents Sands Bethlehem in PA. His name oddly enough, is Bob!

Just a little background on Bob, he goes to every table game and complains while dropping candy wrappers all over the ground. He gets upset when his picture card does not get an ACE in Blackjack! Or his 3 Card poker hand does not result in a big payout, regardless if he wins the hand or not. He'll even cheat, placing a post-bet on a wager he did not initially have ie: Putting money on the Pair Plus bet in 3CP after the cards were dealt. He usually bets the Pair plus regularly, but sometimes stops betting it when he is losing.

Anyway, this incident was at a $5 Three Card Poker table. Bob doing his usual song and dance. Bet, complain, bet, complain. He's sitting on a decent amount of red chips and even has a few Dollar chips in his stack.

Has his $5 on the Pair Plus bet, but not the $1 on the progressive. As the dealer collects the dollars and reaches for the cards in the shuffler, Bob goes "Wait a second!" and removes his $5 bet from the Pair Plus in clear view of everyone there. Dealer asks him "Ok, are we ready?" Bob says "Yea!!!"

Bob, all of a sudden, goes dead quiet. Starts looking around and puts his cards on the play and quickly tries to slide the $5 chip back on the Pair Plus. The dealer instantly catches the post-bet and says "Sir you can't put that bet after the cards are dealt"

Bob shouts "Waddya mean? I already had it up!" Dealer retorts "Sorry sir, but you made me stop so you could remove the bet. It's too late!"

Bob relents and takes back the $5, muttering curses at the dealer, despite having no choice in the matter anyway. Dealer turns over Bob's hand first... Ace, King, Queen of Spades! With no bet on the Progressive Jackpot or the Pair Plus!

Jackpot was just under $8000. And Bob goes on a tirade after being paid a laughable $30 for it.

All the other table players moan about not getting the $100 envy bonus and how they "rigged" the machine to make sure it paid the guy not playing the Dollar.

Dealer just shrugs and says "Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!"
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October 7th, 2013 at 9:31:41 AM permalink
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October 7th, 2013 at 9:46:09 AM permalink
Good one, BWB.

I was at a Let It Ride table when a guy hit a straight flush without the button bet up; it was at a Caesars, and I'm pretty sure it was paying 10% of a progressive rather than a set amount (about 10 years ago). He was pretty ornery, people were saying "nice hit" and he didn't acknowledge anyone, just sat there and took the payout, and didn't tip even a white.

This always made me wonder. I mean, no one sits down at one of the invented games because it's such a great bet. We sit down at the game in hope of trumping variance. With that in mind, what's an extra buck per hand? In something like 3 Card, you can best it by putting the extra $5 on the ante, but for most games, and for the vast majority of casual gamblers, why NOT? We've already defined our goal by sitting down at a carnival game, for pete's sake!
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October 7th, 2013 at 11:56:33 AM permalink
Not exactly the same but I feel it's somewhat related:

http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-bartender-gets-17-500-tip-190817724.html
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October 7th, 2013 at 12:21:11 PM permalink
I was in a Wisconsin casino at a blackjack table about 12 years ago. Fond du Lac I think it was. A guy sat at a slot machine right behind me. He had $20 in $1 tokens. Within a pull or two he hit the progressive jackpot. It was $1.xx million something. He was playing one token instead of five and his prize was $4,000. I told him he should go out and buy a $4,000 pistol and one bullet and put it in his brain.
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October 7th, 2013 at 2:42:46 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Good one, BWB.

I was at a Let It Ride table when a guy hit a straight flush without the button bet up; it was at a Caesars, and I'm pretty sure it was paying 10% of a progressive rather than a set amount (about 10 years ago). He was pretty ornery, people were saying "nice hit" and he didn't acknowledge anyone, just sat there and took the payout, and didn't tip even a white.

I was playing at a UTH table and a guy hit the 10% progressive (straight flush on the flop), and he gave me fifty bucks since I didn't have a bonus bet up!!

By the way, the progressive was an insultingly low $30,000. He won $3K. Table shut down for 75 minutes.
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October 7th, 2013 at 3:19:30 PM permalink
playing pai gow once, I noticed the progressive seemed low and made a statement to the dealer. he said the 5 aces hit like 12 hours before. he said the table was full, someone got up and left. someone else from the table moved spots and hit the 5 aces the next hand. hopefully the person who left was almost to their car at that point.
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October 7th, 2013 at 7:13:31 PM permalink
Got a royal flush playing pai gow poker. I was the only player that didn't have a fortune bet. Everyone won at least a $50 envy and I didn't even win the hand. It pushed.
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October 9th, 2013 at 1:55:15 AM permalink
Why do I need a GPS signal blocker, I assume at the casino?
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October 9th, 2013 at 2:00:37 AM permalink
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October 9th, 2013 at 2:20:51 AM permalink
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I know that the gps signal blocker can block the signals of the gps tracking device and gain me a safe condition. So I bought a gps signal blocker to help me then and now I can drive without being tracked now.Not want to being tracked and have their own privacy and space, almost everyone want to stay in such kind of condition and the gps signal blocker can be a good assistant now.



This is a persistent one, actually. Four different accounts all with the same IP Address, I'm pretty sure there's a way I can ban an IP address, so I'll have to look into that. The most interesting thing about these four accounts is that the oldest one dates back to August 30th, so it's not like this is the same Spammer making four accounts all in the same day, the Spammer is just determined to keep coming back periodically!
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October 9th, 2013 at 4:21:44 AM permalink
I got dealt quads (based on the 6-card bonus bet) and a mini royal (Q, K, A of Spades) in the same night playing 3-card. I wasn't too mad about the quads since the 6-card bonus is absolute garbage, but I was a little pissed I didn't get to cash in more on the mini royal.
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October 9th, 2013 at 8:02:59 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Perhaps Micky C has heard about this story as well, he could tell the story way better then me.

I Was NOT sitting at the table at the time I was simply watching the game while waiting for a seat.

This was in Laughlin at the river side Poker Room. They had a bad beat Jackpot for 50k, Everyone played 2-6, some of us played NL overs in the game.

There was an old guy, they called him Honda, I believe they called him that Because he always wore a baseball cap that said, Honda on it. Honda played that game just about everyday for fun and social reason only. Roomer was he had tons of money. He often played with a guy not as old, who lived mainly from paycheck to paycheck, (Probably SSI and a small poker profit ).I'll call him Bob Because he reminds me of Bob and I cant remember his real name. Him and Honda did not get along, they absolutely hated and despised each other with a passion. Over what, I don't know.

One day Honda and Bob were in a heated poker hand together, They Re raised the pot on each street. They had already had words at the table that day so tension was high .

Excitement and Whispers of a bad beat were being passed around.

At the end of the hand Bob turns over his four of a kind first. Honda pauses for a few minuets. Bob starts Yacking... then Honda slowly shows his str8 flush and says, "I would rather die then see you get any money, and shoves his hand into the muck".



The first I've heard this story, Axel. I had something similar happen to me once. It was in a $1 to $5 stud 8 or better game in Deadwood. I made four 4's on fifth street. My opponent had three kiings in the air. He looks at me and says "Do we have a bad beat working?" I showed him my pocket 4's and bet $5. He immediately mucked his hand. The dealer turned the deck over and fanned the cards. The King was coming. "What the hell did you do that for?" I asked. "You should have let me have the free cards" he said. "I saved you four or five bets by showing you my hand. You know damn well you were gonna go off raising me. You tossed away a shot at $3,000 over $10." I said. He thought about it and apologized. Of course it was too late.

I once threw away a bad beat hand in Wendover. I was new to the game and hadn't studied the bad beat (big mistake). The bad beat at the Peppermill properties was Aces Full of ANYTHING beaten by 4 of a Kind. Both hole cards must play. I had pocket 8's and the flop came AAA. A lady in early position bet out. I knew she had an Ace in her hand so I folded. "Did you have a pocket pair?!!!" the rest of the table screamed. "Yeah, pocket 8's, but it's obvious she has an Ace." She rolled over her AK. The table exploded. I had to endure being called a dumass for the next half hour.

That's when I took up studying the bad beat situation in Wendover. I figure the chances of Aces Full of Anything getting cracked by quads is no more than 5 or 6000 to one. Between the two Peppermill poker rooms the bad beat averaged hitting every 11 days. $10,000 was a big number because of it. But I got a lot of table shares, and an occasional small or big end.

Wendover was the only place I could count bad beat money as part of my equity in the game.
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October 14th, 2013 at 6:08:33 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

The first I've heard this story, Axel. I had something similar happen to me once. It was in a $1 to $5 stud 8 or better game in Deadwood. I made four 4's on fifth street. My opponent had three kiings in the air. He looks at me and says "Do we have a bad beat working?" I showed him my pocket 4's and bet $5. He immediately mucked his hand. The dealer turned the deck over and fanned the cards. The King was coming. "What the hell did you do that for?" I asked. "You should have let me have the free cards" he said. "I saved you four or five bets by showing you my hand. You know damn well you were gonna go off raising me. You tossed away a shot at $3,000 over $10." I said. He thought about it and apologized. Of course it was too late.

I once threw away a bad beat hand in Wendover. I was new to the game and hadn't studied the bad beat (big mistake). The bad beat at the Peppermill properties was Aces Full of ANYTHING beaten by 4 of a Kind. Both hole cards must play. I had pocket 8's and the flop came AAA. A lady in early position bet out. I knew she had an Ace in her hand so I folded. "Did you have a pocket pair?!!!" the rest of the table screamed. "Yeah, pocket 8's, but it's obvious she has an Ace." She rolled over her AK. The table exploded. I had to endure being called a dumass for the next half hour.

That's when I took up studying the bad beat situation in Wendover. I figure the chances of Aces Full of Anything getting cracked by quads is no more than 5 or 6000 to one. Between the two Peppermill poker rooms the bad beat averaged hitting every 11 days. $10,000 was a big number because of it. But I got a lot of table shares, and an occasional small or big end.

Wendover was the only place I could count bad beat money as part of my equity in the game.

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October 14th, 2013 at 6:09:59 PM permalink
Some places stipulate if you discuss your hand the bad beat is void. Careful.
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October 14th, 2013 at 11:06:45 PM permalink
Quote: anonimuss

Some places stipulate if you discuss your hand the bad beat is void. Careful.



They were pretty lax about it in Deadwood.
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March 21st, 2014 at 4:43:03 AM permalink
Color me a sucker bettor; I've never been able to sit at a table with a sidebet and not have min bet money on it, just in case. Sorry, math guys. And no, I've never hit a top pay, but I have had days where middle pays have put me thousands ahead. The sidebet is my juice, anticipating the little chance to hit the big jackpot. I'm also over-insured, if anything, in real life. State Farm loves me. lol...

I have been at the table, 20 years ago at the Biloxi Grand, when the person next to me on LIR made the RF and won 45K; this was before the days of 3 card PP up top, though that adds relatively little, but the dealer had K-10, so it was just a flush til the 5th card. She had been betting 1/spot for the dealer, and forgot to place the bet on that hand, so she made it up by tipping the dealer 3K; biggest tip I've ever seen as well. It took them 45 minutes to pay the bet, checking tapes/cards/etc.
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March 21st, 2014 at 5:25:07 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Color me a sucker bettor; I've never been able to sit at a table with a sidebet and not have min bet money on it, just in case. Sorry, math guys. And no, I've never hit a top pay, but I have had days where middle pays have put me thousands ahead. The sidebet is my juice, anticipating the little chance to hit the big jackpot. I'm also over-insured, if anything, in real life. State Farm loves me. lol...

I have been at the table, 20 years ago at the Biloxi Grand, when the person next to me on LIR made the RF and won 45K; this was before the days of 3 card PP up top, though that adds relatively little, but the dealer had K-10, so it was just a flush til the 5th card. She had been betting 1/spot for the dealer, and forgot to place the bet on that hand, so she made it up by tipping the dealer 3K; biggest tip I've ever seen as well. It took them 45 minutes to pay the bet, checking tapes/cards/etc.



I guess you mean like me about 6 months ago. Lucky ladies BJ table. Guy next to me is betting $10-$25 on the side bet. We are chatting and makes a comment to me about playing it. I tell him that the only side bet I play is the in-between. 10 minutes later I get dealt QhQh and dealer has a BJ. I get a sharp pain in my gut and the guy next to me storms away from the table.

ETA: the sharp pain was not him punching me. It was my stomach turning inside out from missing $5,000
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March 21st, 2014 at 5:50:18 AM permalink
Quote: ComplexEnigma


Also reminds me of a story a dealer told me. The game was Pai Gow Poker. There's a side bet that pays like $50,000 if you get a 7 card royal flush, with like a $2,000 envy bonus for each person playing the side bet. Well this guy gets it, but he's not playing the side bet. So he starts trying to get the other players to share some of the envy bonus with him. No one wanted to share, so the guy mucked his hand and no one got a dime for the 7 card royal.



That's the most badass thing I've ever heard. Ahahahaha!!!! I can't even imagine how pissed the other players were. Reminds me of a situation I was in a while back (doesn't have to do with progressives or nothing).

So, this guy gives me a green chip to put on my bet. I'm dealt 16vT, so naturally, I surrender. The guy isn't too happy with the play, saying sh** how "play to win, not to lose!" or whatever. I gave him his $12.50 and I kept my own $2.50 (or whatever my share was). He puts a quarter on my bet again, and I'm dealt 12v2, so I hit. I bust, and he gets all p**** off, "why you hit a 12 against a 12, you lose like that!" (I always laugh when people say the dealer has a 12 instead of a 2...or 13 instead of a 3...". So, he puts a quarter on my bet again, and I'm trying to figure out why the **** this dude is still putting money on my bet. But, whatever. Best case scenario I win him a bunch of money and he gives me a tip (+EV). Worst case scenario, he isn't willing to put up another $25 for a split or something....in which case I'd put up the $25, and tell him to F*** off and I'd keep whatever amount he put on my bet (since, technically, it's my bet and I can keep it or give it to him if I want). So anyway, this crazy Asian guy keeps putting quarters on my bet, ($5 of my own, $25 of his), and he keeps disagreeing with my plays. I tell him something like, "Maybe you just shouldn't bet on top of my bet and it's probably better if he doesn't" or so...but he keeps doing it. So, he puts a $25 chip on my bet...and I start putting a $1 bet of my own ($26 total). Next thing I know...I hit....hit...hit...HIT! Oh I busted woops! Only cost me $1. Next hand? Another quarter. Hit. Hit. Hit. Bust. Whoah did I just hit a 16v6? Woops. Dude is STILL BETTING ON ME (I just wanted to piss him off, so I'd keep hitting until I busted).


As for side-bets, I was playing a 1-card-poker game and all these idiots kept telling me to put money on the side-bet, since "that's where the real money is". Of course, I'm not going to waste EV on such a sh*** side-bet, so I wave it off. I get a straight, straight flush, 3 of a kind, and other good hands, while the ploppies are going crazy and I'm just laughing it up.
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March 21st, 2014 at 6:04:49 AM permalink
Thank you to the spammer for bringing this thread back up. LoL!

The only one I can think of in my short career was my very first hand of Let It Ride. I didn't play the "3 card bonus bet" and of course I had been dealt a straight flush. A good potential payout turned into a $10 loss.
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March 21st, 2014 at 8:21:16 AM permalink
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So, this guy gives me a green chip to put on my bet. I'm dealt 16vT, so naturally, I surrender. The guy isn't too happy with the play, saying sh** how "play to win, not to lose!" or whatever. I gave him his $12.50 and I kept my own $2.50 (or whatever my share was). He puts a quarter on my bet again, and I'm dealt 12v2, so I hit. I bust, and he gets all p**** off, "why you hit a 12 against a 12, you lose like that!" (I always laugh when people say the dealer has a 12 instead of a 2...or 13 instead of a 3...". So, he puts a quarter on my bet again, and I'm trying to figure out why the **** this dude is still putting money on my bet. But, whatever. Best case scenario I win him a bunch of money and he gives me a tip (+EV). Worst case scenario, he isn't willing to put up another $25 for a split or something....in which case I'd put up the $25, and tell him to F*** off and I'd keep whatever amount he put on my bet (since, technically, it's my bet and I can keep it or give it to him if I want). So anyway, this crazy Asian guy keeps putting quarters on my bet, ($5 of my own, $25 of his), and he keeps disagreeing with my plays. I tell him something like, "Maybe you just shouldn't bet on top of my bet and it's probably better if he doesn't" or so...but he keeps doing it. So, he puts a $25 chip on my bet...and I start putting a $1 bet of my own ($26 total). Next thing I know...I hit....hit...hit...HIT! Oh I busted woops! Only cost me $1. Next hand? Another quarter. Hit. Hit. Hit. Bust. Whoah did I just hit a 16v6? Woops. Dude is STILL BETTING ON ME (I just wanted to piss him off, so I'd keep hitting until I busted).


That is highly amusing. Exposing others' irrationality is amusing to me.
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March 21st, 2014 at 8:37:27 AM permalink
I hit four of a kind a t a TCP table at Bally's while not making the six-card bonus bet.

Had I been playing it all along, my bankroll would have been lost before hitting it. I forget whether I was playing pair+ or not, or whether I or the dealer had three of a kind.

I will sometmies play some side bets, but not always. Mostly when I can bet under the minimum, which several casinos do allow in some games. As I recall, at Binnion's you can bet $1 in the PGP side bets as long as you're betting $5 in the main wager. This is like putting $1 in the hardways in craps while beting $5 on the Pass Line. When i dod this, my usual MO is to bet $1 each for myself and the dealer.
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March 21st, 2014 at 9:10:40 AM permalink
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Had I been playing it all along, my bankroll would have been lost before hitting it.



There it is, folks.

My first trip to the casino was well after I had educated myself on gambling through here and my workplace. As a result, I played no side bets.

I can't remember if it was Lucky-Lucky or whatever, but it was the one with 150-1 payout for some card combination or another. And a guy at the table had been on me all night about playing it as I had missed a few other minor wins on it. When I hit and missed this one, he lost it (in a funny way, he wasn't a jerk).

I didn't care then, and I don't care now.

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March 21st, 2014 at 9:19:13 AM permalink
I can't recall ever being told I couldn't bet $1 on the fortune bonus in PGP. I just don't get the envy bonus.
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March 21st, 2014 at 9:31:26 AM permalink
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When I hit and missed this one, he lost it (in a funny way, he wasn't a jerk).



I've had that happen, too. usually it goes like this:

Stranger at the table "Wow! If you'd been playing the [sucker bet]..."

Me (interrupting): I'd have run out of money twenty hands ago.



I should try a smile and a coy shrug and saying "God provides bread to the toothless." But that seems like too regional a asaying to make sense.


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"It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet"



Oh, the things good etiquette makes one leave unsaid!
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March 21st, 2014 at 9:33:02 AM permalink
One of the best plays is to let others play your bonus bets on table games, particularly 1CP and UTH. It's great cover and sucker betters happen to be very generous people. I've been tipped up to half the prize of a straight flush on the pair plus.

Unfortunately, my most recent straight flush came while playing heads up. At least there was no one to ridicule me.
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March 21st, 2014 at 10:31:07 AM permalink
I've hit three suited sevens about a dozen times at Foxwoods but never put up the dollar. It pays $5000 but at 50,000 plus hands a year, even I can do that math. Oddly enough, my wife played it a few times when the casino first opened and, you guessed it, she won. I had a heck of a time convincing her that it was a sucker bet after that. Back in the early days they did not withhold taxes and they cut her 10 purple from the tray with no paperwork. How times have changed.

Most of the blackjack tables at my home casinos have side bets and I routinely hit them, as you would expect, but will not play them. Again, the math is easy. When asked why I don't play I say I can't afford it. I'd love to point out the odds and tell everyone what sucker bets they are but better to play dumb and not put a damper on anyone's fun.
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