Spouses and gambling
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January 29th, 2013 at 11:50:19 AM
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Does your spouse understand basic gambling theory? Do they play basic strategy or have no clue at table games. Do they play video poker or crazy penny slots?
My wife used to work at Las Vegas Advisor so she understands advantage play and basic strategy, but if she goes gambling with me all of my advantage is usually eaten up by her play at the penny slots. If I can keep her at the blackjack table or at certain video poker games then I am fine. Sadly, she doesn't enjoy those so she always wants to try the newest crazy slots (usually 86%).
My wife used to work at Las Vegas Advisor so she understands advantage play and basic strategy, but if she goes gambling with me all of my advantage is usually eaten up by her play at the penny slots. If I can keep her at the blackjack table or at certain video poker games then I am fine. Sadly, she doesn't enjoy those so she always wants to try the newest crazy slots (usually 86%).
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
January 29th, 2013 at 12:00:54 PM
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Quote: DRichDoes your spouse understand basic gambling theory? Do they play basic strategy or have no clue at table games. Do they play video poker or crazy penny slots?
My wife used to work at Las Vegas Advisor so she understands advantage play and basic strategy, but if she goes gambling with me all of my advantage is usually eaten up by her play at the penny slots. If I can keep her at the blackjack table or at certain video poker games then I am fine. Sadly, she doesn't enjoy those so she always wants to try the newest crazy slots (usually 86%).
Hehe.. if she's having a good time, and not losing your RV betting "22", maybe it's okay. In comparison, how much would you "lose" paying for her spa, shopping, or Cirque show ticket?
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
January 29th, 2013 at 12:05:12 PM
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Penny slots and she breaks even every time! Who knew? In fairness she will play blackjack with me if I need a partner for a special circumstance and she does know basic strategy. She's not thrilled about it because she thinks I ask only when I'm "up to something."
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
January 29th, 2013 at 12:10:34 PM
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Not married but I have made observations. Generally speaking women are less interested in learning more complex games and ap strategy. They have the attitude that the casino is for fun and th learn and practice the best plays is work not fun. To be fair some men feel this way as well. But men are more prone to take up the challenge of beating the system so to speak. That and they like being able to show their ladies the better way to play. Their ladies seem to like the arrangement of "make all your bets just let me throw the dice."
It is some mind of alpha-male biology at work.
It is some mind of alpha-male biology at work.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
January 29th, 2013 at 12:10:55 PM
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Be glad your wife likes to gamble and leave it at that, assuming she isnt developing a 'problem'
You are already pretty much assured to not be AP as a 'team', it sounds like, if I know women [no man does, but this much I can glean <g>]
PS: just noted you can vote. I needed the category 'wife will gamble but rarely so who cares'
You are already pretty much assured to not be AP as a 'team', it sounds like, if I know women [no man does, but this much I can glean <g>]
PS: just noted you can vote. I needed the category 'wife will gamble but rarely so who cares'
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
January 29th, 2013 at 12:31:47 PM
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It seems that "zeroes" are attractive to her... she wants to see larger prizes. So let her play the slots without any lectures.
January 29th, 2013 at 1:00:14 PM
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My wife plays penny slots and loses often. She doesn't care for cards or dice.
A falling knife has no handle.
January 29th, 2013 at 1:10:22 PM
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I don't have a spouse, but I am currently sharing a residence with my playing partner, associate and good friend. As a solo player who lived alone for a number of years, the last 10 months have been a welcome change in having someone to share a bit of your gambling life and interest with. Especially a full-time player like myself who spends a lot of time alone. On the downside, since I now spend more time in the casinos, including meals with this partner, having him there at home at the end of the day is just a little much, even though he is a dear friend. Hey, I need my space. lol
Complicating things even further is the fact that I have another part-time roommate who thinks he plays poker for a living. I met this guy shortly after I moved to vegas, 3 years ago. He was just a little younger than me in mid twenties at the time and as I said, he thinks he is a professional poker player. He gets his meals comped of course and gets some comped rooms during the week at the lower end evil empire properties, IP, Bally's or Harrahs. On weekends he slept in his car. When he was on a real good run, he would rent one of those weekly type place, Seigle suites or Budget suites that are all over town for a week or two, but most times it was his car on weekends and comped rooms a few nights during the week. Anyway, I started letting him crash at my place on weekends, and when I sold my condo and rented a temporary place with my partner, my 'professional poker player' friend followed, completely our Vegas-style disfunctional little family.
Complicating things even further is the fact that I have another part-time roommate who thinks he plays poker for a living. I met this guy shortly after I moved to vegas, 3 years ago. He was just a little younger than me in mid twenties at the time and as I said, he thinks he is a professional poker player. He gets his meals comped of course and gets some comped rooms during the week at the lower end evil empire properties, IP, Bally's or Harrahs. On weekends he slept in his car. When he was on a real good run, he would rent one of those weekly type place, Seigle suites or Budget suites that are all over town for a week or two, but most times it was his car on weekends and comped rooms a few nights during the week. Anyway, I started letting him crash at my place on weekends, and when I sold my condo and rented a temporary place with my partner, my 'professional poker player' friend followed, completely our Vegas-style disfunctional little family.
January 29th, 2013 at 1:46:14 PM
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Quote: AZDuffmanNot married but I have made observations. Generally speaking women are less interested in learning more complex games and ap strategy. They have the attitude that the casino is for fun and th learn and practice the best plays is work not fun. To be fair some men feel this way as well. But men are more prone to take up the challenge of beating the system so to speak. That and they like being able to show their ladies the better way to play. Their ladies seem to like the arrangement of "make all your bets just let me throw the dice."
It is some mind of alpha-male biology at work.
Completely agree, I will spend hours reading up on here and WOO, not to mention books, magazines etc. Just trying to be a smart gambler. My wife is just not interested to her it's all too complex. She likes the restaurants and shows, fancy drinks etc at the casino, but gambling, nahh not interested. I've even tried to let her use some of my free play. She doesn't even want to do that. I guess I should be grateful she's not a slot jockey.
January 29th, 2013 at 2:37:24 PM
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My wife has basic strategy about 95% memorized. If I'm not playing at the same table, she uses a cheat sheet when she's not sure.
I know nothing!
January 29th, 2013 at 3:07:18 PM
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Quote: kewljHe was just a little younger than me in mid twenties at the time .
Is he a little older than you now, at this time?
I couldn't resist..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 29th, 2013 at 3:11:27 PM
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I have learned to loathe taking my wife to the casino.
I have tried teaching her BJ so she has a fighting
chance, but she's only interested in losing at the penny
slots. Getting her to leave is a monumental task, I
am not up to it anymore.
I have tried teaching her BJ so she has a fighting
chance, but she's only interested in losing at the penny
slots. Getting her to leave is a monumental task, I
am not up to it anymore.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 29th, 2013 at 3:19:42 PM
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This thread title reminded me of the following quote:
"No wife can endure a gambling husband, unless he is a steady winner."
~Thomas Robert Dewar
"No wife can endure a gambling husband, unless he is a steady winner."
~Thomas Robert Dewar
"I am a man devoured by the passion for gambling." --Dostoevsky, 1871
January 29th, 2013 at 3:44:43 PM
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A relative of mine, has a full blown gambling addiction, and will play NOTHING but 3 Card poker.
No matter how many times I try to explain to them that they will never come out ahead, they continue to play it. Regardless of how much money I make playing Blackjack and do it front of them(if we happen to be at the casino the same day) they just don't get it.
Even when I break it down in simple terms such as "when YOU have Ace or King high and win, you get X. But when THEY have A or K high they get 3 Times X!" They just don't get it. They still wait for their Social Security check and dump it at the 3CP table.
It has cost them their marriage, their credit and made me lose all respect for this individual(mostly because I loaned them money and they burned it playing 3CP without paying me back).
So while I can see the fun side of gambling with family, the down side is far worse when said family member has no clue what they're doing and what it is doing to others.
No matter how many times I try to explain to them that they will never come out ahead, they continue to play it. Regardless of how much money I make playing Blackjack and do it front of them(if we happen to be at the casino the same day) they just don't get it.
Even when I break it down in simple terms such as "when YOU have Ace or King high and win, you get X. But when THEY have A or K high they get 3 Times X!" They just don't get it. They still wait for their Social Security check and dump it at the 3CP table.
It has cost them their marriage, their credit and made me lose all respect for this individual(mostly because I loaned them money and they burned it playing 3CP without paying me back).
So while I can see the fun side of gambling with family, the down side is far worse when said family member has no clue what they're doing and what it is doing to others.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:48:02 PM
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Quote: BedWetterBetter
No matter how many times I try to explain to them that they will never come out ahead, they continue to play it.
Thats my wife. Its very frustrating. Now she's hooked
on a video game. She sits on the couch in the evening
and plays this moronic game for hours. I hate those
games worse than slots, I have never played an entire
game since I got a computer 20 years ago. They bore
me to death.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 29th, 2013 at 4:35:48 PM
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Quote: BedWetterBetterThey still wait for their Social Security check and dump it at the 3CP table.
This is exactly what casinos thrive upon...JANugget in Reno, especially...They don't want the BIG BUCKS...just Social Security checks..cuz those are as consistent as the rain...guranteed income!
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
January 29th, 2013 at 4:38:51 PM
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She Who Must Be Obeyed is not much of a gambler.
No table games, just the occasional penny slot, and if she loses five or ten bucks she is done.
To her credit, she gives me complete freedom to gamble, without lecturing, nagging or going "Told ya so."
No table games, just the occasional penny slot, and if she loses five or ten bucks she is done.
To her credit, she gives me complete freedom to gamble, without lecturing, nagging or going "Told ya so."
"What, me worry?"
January 29th, 2013 at 4:43:27 PM
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Quote: TIMSPEED..just Social Security checks..cuz those are as consistent as the rain...guranteed income!
The gov't went paperless in 2011. No checks.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 29th, 2013 at 4:47:29 PM
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Paperless, lol, everyone in the patent office has their own printer.
(I know what you were saying, but yeah)
(I know what you were saying, but yeah)
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
January 29th, 2013 at 4:53:52 PM
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I tought my ex basic strategy when we were dating 30 years ago. She learned it well enough to virtually never make a mistake. The same for pai gow poker. She would usually like to play with me at the same table for confirmation of close calls. She has told me since we separated she doesn'thave the casino urge like she used to. She was always happiest to play whatever the lowest stakes that were available. She told me that her last trip when she stayed at the Orleans she was able to play for over 8 straight hours and break even at pai gow. It's good to know the alimony money is not standing on a 15 versus a ten.....
January 29th, 2013 at 4:58:21 PM
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Quote: ahiromuPaperless, lol, everyone in the patent office has their own printer.
(I know what you were saying, but yeah)
Paperless as far as checks goes. Direct deposit only now.
Or they have a gov't debit card.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 29th, 2013 at 7:36:44 PM
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I hope this doesn't come off as chauvinistic, because it's completely her choice, but my wife is like a deer in the headlights at a casino, so she pretty much opts to do whatever I am doing and bet in whatever fashion I suggest. I would just let her do it the way she wants to do it, but she always asks me what to do, so I have to suggest something. It's a complete role-reversal, because she's typically the one that, "Wears the pants," so to speak.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
January 29th, 2013 at 9:01:48 PM
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K, so am I the only female in the room?
I play right along with him. I press, he has to match it, can't have mine bigger! But, hell, I'm there to have fun just like him!
I play right along with him. I press, he has to match it, can't have mine bigger! But, hell, I'm there to have fun just like him!
"In an insane society the sane man appears to be insane." Spock to Capt. Kirk
January 29th, 2013 at 9:07:25 PM
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Panic attack My red headed daughter is Mary Jo. LOL
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
January 29th, 2013 at 9:18:56 PM
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Did you hear Obama last week? "Don't mess with Mary Jo!"
"In an insane society the sane man appears to be insane." Spock to Capt. Kirk
January 29th, 2013 at 9:19:08 PM
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My ex wife and I used to play poker together.
I slept on the couch a lot....I always told her not to get in my pots. lol
I slept on the couch a lot....I always told her not to get in my pots. lol
"Does the sign outside still say Casino?...okay then"
January 29th, 2013 at 9:34:06 PM
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'Quote: ShiftyRickyMy ex wife and I used to play poker together.
I slept on the couch a lot....I always told her not to get in my pots. lol
This sounds like a recipe for disaster.
I taught the girl how to play video poker and surprisingly, she really enjoys it. We usually play side by side and have a few drinks together and usually enjoy ourselves quite a bit, but she HATES to lose, so whenever that happens it's usually damage control from there. Whenever I hit the bj or craps tables, she usually wanders off to some penny slots, but after losing a bit returns to the best vp machines in the house. I must admit that I am not immune to a few dollars here or there of the newest and most exciting looking slot machines, so I see no harm in the entertainment that they provide for a few bucks. I understand that the likelihood of us winning is far less than the other games we enjoy playing, but we like the occasional bells and whistles. You don't get too much of that at VP, BJ, or the craps table.
January 30th, 2013 at 6:25:37 AM
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My wife used to be a slot machine fanatic (I hate them) - but in the last year or so she has learned basic strategy blackjack and loves it.
We dont play real well together at the same table tho - lol !
Our next couples Vegas trip is coming up soon and the guys are dropping steady hints that the gambling should be done gender based. We will see how well that goes over.
We dont play real well together at the same table tho - lol !
Our next couples Vegas trip is coming up soon and the guys are dropping steady hints that the gambling should be done gender based. We will see how well that goes over.
January 30th, 2013 at 7:14:41 AM
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Quote: EvenBobI have tried teaching her BJ .....
I had to teach my girlfriend BJ, and she does pretty well now.
I couldn't resist, Bob.
"Poker sure is an easy game to beat if you have the roll to keep rebuying."
January 30th, 2013 at 12:45:56 PM
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My wife plays some games on her own: Pai Gow (Poker), Let it Ride, 4 Card, Caribbean and knows all of the strategies. She tends to play to trends and will play conservatively and will keep a straight together vs a high pair and an K/A in PGP and will play the game by the book. Her slot play is limited to about $40 - $60 in action on her favorite Wheel of Fortune slot or Pick a Pair VP machines. She barely knows basic strategy in blackjack and tends to overplay the action, taking advantage of doubles and splits when she probably shouldn't.
Until the alcohol. That's when you see her play the blind hands in Caribbean, split pairs in PGP when she should put an ace in the back. And once you get enough alcohol in her, you'll usually see her at the craps table betting PL with minimal odds but looking for the jackpot in the center.
That's why I don't drink when we gamble.
Until the alcohol. That's when you see her play the blind hands in Caribbean, split pairs in PGP when she should put an ace in the back. And once you get enough alcohol in her, you'll usually see her at the craps table betting PL with minimal odds but looking for the jackpot in the center.
That's why I don't drink when we gamble.
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You want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
January 30th, 2013 at 2:25:02 PM
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Quote: zippyboyI had to teach my girlfriend BJ, and she does pretty well now.
They have to want to learn or its pointless.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 30th, 2013 at 2:29:05 PM
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My girlfriend learned BJ before she met me and she's really good at it. That's why I married her.
Are we talking about the same thing?
Are we talking about the same thing?
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January 30th, 2013 at 2:54:49 PM
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She doesn't like gambling. But she loves South Lake Tahoe, LV is fun and is bored in Reno.
The Terror of Casinos.
January 30th, 2013 at 3:16:17 PM
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It is the casino that is getting the alcohol into her.Quote: boymimboAnd once you get enough alcohol in her ...
>That's why I don't drink when we gamble.
Sounds like its enough to drive you to it.
January 30th, 2013 at 3:49:10 PM
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My husband never gambled a day before he met me; he was 45 at the time. I taught him blackjack and I dealt to him at home and he did really good at playing perfect basic strategy.
But it all flew completely out of his head whenever we went to a casino and had his first drink, which was followed by too many others. He drank to excess when he gambled and he gambled to excess when he drank and didn't have what we call here in the south, "stoppin' sense" at either.
I didn't care all that much about the money, but the drinking bothered me a whole lot.
But it all flew completely out of his head whenever we went to a casino and had his first drink, which was followed by too many others. He drank to excess when he gambled and he gambled to excess when he drank and didn't have what we call here in the south, "stoppin' sense" at either.
I didn't care all that much about the money, but the drinking bothered me a whole lot.
January 30th, 2013 at 7:00:23 PM
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My wife likes VP, maybe too much. I give her a simplified
strategy chart, and she will use that, but she plops down
at whatever machine is available and doesn't care about
the pay table. I admit I find that aspect a bit frustrating !
To me, the fun is learning a game well enough to play
close to perfect strategy and then playing on only the
best available paytable. I guess that doesn't seem like
fun to her.
We don't play for high stakes and don't ever lose a
lot, although I stick to my "loss limit" a lot more
rigorously than she does. AND I am resolved to
keep an accurate log for this year.
strategy chart, and she will use that, but she plops down
at whatever machine is available and doesn't care about
the pay table. I admit I find that aspect a bit frustrating !
To me, the fun is learning a game well enough to play
close to perfect strategy and then playing on only the
best available paytable. I guess that doesn't seem like
fun to her.
We don't play for high stakes and don't ever lose a
lot, although I stick to my "loss limit" a lot more
rigorously than she does. AND I am resolved to
keep an accurate log for this year.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
January 30th, 2013 at 7:09:45 PM
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When I met my husband, he was strictly a slots player, and claimed he was always a winner. (Think: Super small sample size.) I first taught him craps, then got him onto BJ Basic Strategy, and then into Video Poker strategy. On our last Vegas trip (and fourth gambling trip of 2012), he played BJ almost exclusively, except for an afternoon chasing slot club points. (This was a mistake.)
It has been a slow journey, but I find it worthwhile. We have lots of fun playing Blackjack together!
'Brian
It has been a slow journey, but I find it worthwhile. We have lots of fun playing Blackjack together!
'Brian
