Juyemura
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September 28th, 2012 at 9:57:15 AM permalink
Which casino or family of casinos in Las Vegas is the most generous when it comes to giving comps for table game players? I specifically play craps, but any or all input would be appreciated.

I have heard that Harrahs Properties are notoriously bad about giving comps to anyone but slot players, which is why I tend to avoid playing at them.
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September 28th, 2012 at 10:02:48 AM permalink
Definitely NOT MSS...I played there exclusively this past trip, like $90 average and got like $10 in comps!
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September 28th, 2012 at 10:21:23 AM permalink
Harrah's supposedly makes up for their lack of comps with generous room offers. I think you're supposed to show them a good few days, then wait to get mailers in the future.

That's from just being around here for awhile, not experience.

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September 28th, 2012 at 10:23:36 AM permalink
I went to the Trop for three nights and they seemed OK. I stayed there but didn't play there that much and only $10/hand, BJ, and the hostess has given me three free nights for my next visit. But the place is sweaty for BJ.

The other places I'm not sure of since I've only been to LV three times.

The reason I would stay away from Harrah's is the last time I was there they seemed to have damn near exclusively 6:5 BJ so I left.

OT: Harrah's Reno is very good when it comes to the rooms though.
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September 28th, 2012 at 10:42:45 AM permalink
I play a fair amount of both when I visit a Total Rewards (Harrahs/Caesars) casino. Table comps are about the same as slots however it take about 24-48 hours to post to your account whereas slots tally immediately, but you do get them. Personally I don't think the $$$ comps are that great, but they give out free rooms to anyone who's visited them before and has a Total Rewards card, and you get mailings for food/buffet and slot dollars (again nothing great). I do make an effort to go on days when they have 7X or 10X comp dollars, then you definitely get rewarded. Like it or not I'm married to them because I refuse to pay for a room and they give me the AC/LV connection (play in either, get rewards for both cities).

I really cannot speak for the other comp programs.
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September 28th, 2012 at 11:41:35 AM permalink
As with most things in Vegas, downtown is your best bet, I particularly like El Cortez
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September 28th, 2012 at 11:52:13 AM permalink
Its hard to say. Many players don't keep a precise count of their money and time. Many casinos only make rough estimates. Most comps are based on those rough estimates but may take some time as to being made manifest in the casino's computer system or in the casino's subsequent mailings.

Its well known Harrah's likes slot players rather than table game players, but Harrah's is generous with hotel room comps and many players value that highly, far more highly than they probably should perhaps.

Tuscany has a reputation of being good with comps but a bit slow on updating their computers so you should take a half hour break before expecting your action to be visible to their personnel.

The Silverton appears to have very good comps but it is way the heck in nowhere and once you are there you are going to be staying there. You can earn slot comps even if you only play blackjack there. Every casino seems to have some quirky rules or some quirky days on which there is some "special" being offered.

Loyalty card programs are really "soft tethers", so the question boils down to where do you feel you are treated the best, rather than where are you actually treated the best.
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September 28th, 2012 at 8:25:47 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Tuscany has a reputation of being good with comps but a bit slow on updating their computers so you should take a half hour break before expecting your action to be visible to their personnel.



I know this to be true, I am $5 craps player and I have never paid for a meal there, always use comp dollars, plus they give you free play seperate of food/room comp dollars. I play a session at night and the players card club lady enters the slips in the next morning.

Now I do believe being friendly has helped this situation. I talk to the supervisors except for KC huge a hole, but now on days so I dont care, plus I take care of the boys and the waitresses. I will tell you I believe that I get comped at a rate higher than my $5 play.

While on the topic I had good luck at the M, was comped a free dinner for 2 at the steak house, again as a $5 player, but was friendly with the pit, and was taken care of. Never hurts to chat the guys up IMO.
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September 29th, 2012 at 7:26:51 AM permalink
Quote: JW17


Now I do believe being friendly has helped this situation....
As a $5 player,...friendly with the pit, and was taken care of.
Never hurts to chat the guys up IMO.


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September 29th, 2012 at 7:36:40 AM permalink
MGM has been generous to me, giving me a free room, free play, free tickets to major events and free food.
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September 29th, 2012 at 7:50:02 AM permalink
The answer is different depending on your preferred betting level.

For $3 minimums, you will get the most comps from Fiesta Henderson. It's way the hell away from everything else, but if you want to get the most comps on a $3 table, that's my advice.

For $5 minimums, I personally say the Silverton. One of the main reasons is that the Silverton actually tracks your table game play in a way that you can see for yourself. When you play $5 bets for an hour, they give you 200 points on craps. 1000 points is worth $3 in slot play. When you get to $9.25 in free slot play, you can turn that into $9.00 cash by betting $4.50 on red $4.50 on black, and $0.25 on zero on the Bally Roulette slot machine. So you have to put your card in a slot, but you technically don't have to gamble on slots to extract your comp money into cash. Just give them the edge for a play.

If you use your points to buy a steak at the cafe, you get the edge because there is no sales tax when paying for food with points (1000 points == $3).

When you get 50,000 points total, you get two free rooms a month, you get $25 in free bets every week, and you get limited access to perks like going out on the boat on lake mead with a bunch of LCD screens and stocked bars, and a water slide and stuff.

If you do $10 minimums, I suggest the Cosmopolitan

If you do $25 minimums, I suggest the Wynn.

As far as downtown, or any other "seedy" place, I would only suggest that if you like that type of thing. I think you should get the nicest possible place to stay including the people you are around. That's another reason I would recommend Fiesta Henderson over El Cortez. Even if you get the same dollar comp values, the actual people you find at the El Cortez and the sorts of things that happen there are not things that I want to be around myself personally.

I hope this helps!
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September 29th, 2012 at 7:55:03 AM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED

Definitely NOT MSS...I played there exclusively this past trip, like $90 average and got like $10 in comps!



Almost all of the Stations Casinos are linked up. For craps play, your play at one casino follows you to the next. But the problem is that it is invisible to you what your level is.

You have to say "can you feed me?" And they look and say "how much" and then you tell them, and they will tell you yes or no and print something out for you there at the pit.

All the Stations casinos are like that. If you don't say "feed me" you will not be fed.
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September 29th, 2012 at 8:23:22 AM permalink
Main Street Station is named for the Railroad Station...the nearby tracks are an ever present reminder. It is a Boyd property, I believe, but it is NOT one of the various "Stations" casinos that are scattered around town.

I think the preceeding analysis based on level of play is very wise. So too is an awareness of one's surroundings.

I love a pint of the Black Stuff... i.e., Guinness. Golden Gate not only serves it but comps it in their casino. So that would be quite a lure for me. However, the neighborhood and the general tenor of the owner would be a very strong negative for me.

The common theme is "bang for the buck" but there are other considerations too.

The M Resort comps very generously, though I think there is quite a steep increase in your level of play that would be required if you want to be comped to a weekend rather than weekday room. Other casinos have higher requirements for weekend comps as well, but other casinos don't seem to have such a steep gradient between the action for a weekday comp and the action required for a week end comp. The M Resorts meal comps are generous and their "spend the points on a buffet, but keep the points in your accout" program is an added little plus.
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September 29th, 2012 at 12:04:06 PM permalink
I really appreciated Ahigh's response. Let's say you're playing low HE craps at $120/roll for six hours a day ($150 counting odds). Could you get full RFB anywhere on the weekends? How about weekdays?

Preferably on the strip.

Edited $120/hr to $120/roll
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September 29th, 2012 at 1:55:57 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

As far as downtown, or any other "seedy" place, I would only suggest that if you like that type of thing. I think you should get the nicest possible place to stay including the people you are around. That's another reason I would recommend Fiesta Henderson over El Cortez. Even if you get the same dollar comp values, the actual people you find at the El Cortez and the sorts of things that happen there are not things that I want to be around myself personally.



I've been around town a bit, and I've found seedy and/or undesirable folks all around the Strip, off-Strip, and downtown - if not in the casinos, then certainly just outside them. And bad things can happen anywhere. The Tez and the area around it, in particular, have been cleaned up quite a bit since a few years ago.

I would HATE to stay somewhere like Fiesta Henderson because there's so little to do in the area outside the casino and you're isolated without a car. But different strokes for different folks.

As for the original question, I'll add to the chorus that's saying, "It depends".
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September 29th, 2012 at 2:30:40 PM permalink
If you are looking for a long term relationship, then I would say I have been pleased with the way Harrah's has treated me. I can't speak to M Life but I imagine them being awfully similar. If you are looking for a 1 trip stand then I would probably call a host at tropicana, TI, LVH, or any other independently owned place and try to negotitate with them up front. If you are betting $120 a roll you should have no problem getting R and F, though B may be limited.
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