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EvenBob
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November 30th, 2013 at 11:12:26 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

No, I can't even imagine that kind of money. Even when I'm dreaming I hardly ever go over a few mil.



It's how royalty lives. The Rockefeller's and Mellon's and Carnegie's
and Morgan's are our royalty. Nobody really knows how much the
Rockefeller family is worth today because so many of their sources
of income have been hidden for such a long time. And none of them
talk about it. The richest people in this country are people we've
never heard the names of. A lot of it is in NYC and goes back to the
1600's. Families that are fabulously wealthy from real estate that's
been theirs for 300 years. Ground that skyscrapers sit on, that you
couldn't find out who really owns with a fleet of private detectives.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
petroglyph
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November 30th, 2013 at 11:48:24 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It's how royalty lives. The Rockefeller's and Mellon's and Carnegie's
and Morgan's are our royalty. Nobody really knows how much the
Rockefeller family is worth today because so many of their sources
of income have been hidden for such a long time. And none of them
talk about it. The richest people in this country are people we've
never heard the names of. A lot of it is in NYC and goes back to the
1600's. Families that are fabulously wealthy from real estate that's
been theirs for 300 years. Ground that skyscrapers sit on, that you
couldn't find out who really owns with a fleet of private detectives.




I agree here completely. Certainly Rockefeller was a superstar.

It's odd that I can type in the 10 wealthiest in the country and names like Getty[sp], or Dupont or Brown brothers Harriman aren't even mentioned. I agree that some are so rich we shall never hear there names. The puppetmaster's. Yeah there were family's back in colonial times that already had generational wealth. What about Hearst?

Jackie O, didn't have to take out a student loan either.

This is what I mean when I say it doesn't really matter who the POTUS is.
EvenBob
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December 1st, 2013 at 12:34:52 AM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

What about Hearst?

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George Hearst's son, William Randolf Hearst, the newspaper
guy, was amazing. He started buying up antiques in Europe
in the 1880's and continued it for 40 years. He'd go to these
royal estates and buy an entire room. Floor, ceiling, walls
and contents. An army of workers would take it all apart,
number it, and ship it to NYC at enormous expense. He had
secret buyers all over EU buying for him. He had a a 3 story
warehouse that covered an entire city block and 30 full
time employees who's job it was to unload, catalog, and
store his stuff. He fell on hard times in the 30's and an entire
floor at Macy's was devoted to selling George's antiques.
He used many of them to furnish his castle at San Simeon.

The details of what he owned from 40 years of plundering
a financially distraught royal EU are incredible. You name it,
he bought it. The time from the end of the Civil War, to the
1930's, is the most interesting and fascinating chapter in
American history.
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December 1st, 2013 at 1:00:41 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

George Hearst's son, William Randolf Hearst, the newspaper
guy, was amazing. He started buying up antiques in Europe
in the 1880's and continued it for 40 years. He'd go to these
royal estates and buy an entire room. Floor, ceiling, walls
and contents. An army of workers would take it all apart,
number it, and ship it to NYC at enormous expense. He had
secret buyers all over EU buying for him. He had a a 3 story
warehouse that covered an entire city block and 30 full
time employees who's job it was to unload, catalog, and
store his stuff. He fell on hard times in the 30's and an entire
floor at Macy's was devoted to selling George's antiques.
He used many of them to furnish his castle at San Simeon.

The details of what he owned from 40 years of plundering
a financially distraught royal EU are incredible. You name it,
he bought it. The time from the end of the Civil War, to the
1930's, is the most interesting and fascinating chapter in
American history.




It's funny though when you hear about one of those guys going broke you never see them washing dishes or anything.

I read a story not long ago about a couple distraught over going broke and not knowing how they were going to make it they were down to their last 20 or 30 million dollars.

Like you mentioned those people are our royalty. It's like there is some mechanism for the uber wealthy that have fallen and all their old crony's all kick in a few million so they aren't disgraced and having to earn a living or something. Oh the horror. I imagine they are a little helpless not ever having to do anything, about the only thing they'd be qualified for is being a politician.
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December 1st, 2013 at 4:48:12 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I started this thread a year and a half ago and I still love Walmart.
They dropped the amount you have to buy from $50 to $35 to get free shipping.


I understand that sales of candy and other impulse purchases are being hurt by the massive numbers of people who do online shopping for groceries as well as other purchases. It seems everything is delivered now: food, prescriptions, auto repairs.
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December 1st, 2013 at 5:28:30 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

What's interesting is that at his death, Sam Walton's personal
fortune was about $100 billion if you adjust it to today's dollars.
When Rockefeller died in 1937, his fortune is estimated at
around $500 billion, adjusted. It's an incomprehensible amount
of money, they say nobody will ever come near it. Rockefeller
was obsessed with money. As a child his sister used to say,
if it was raining porridge, while everyone was using their bowls
to cover their heads, John would be the only one with it right
side up to collect the falling porridge.



The "robber barons" of that era were way more wealthy than the top of the rich today. Andrew Carnegie was at one point the world's richest and in constant dollars he would have made Bill Gates peak wealth look like a welfare case, AC was worth over 4xs BG at each man's peak. Here in Pittsburgh we have a killer museum he started along with a library system second to none. All that from a guy who started by working in the mills.
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December 1st, 2013 at 8:24:48 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I can't necessarily say that it was the Wal-Mart in Moundsville, West Virginia that led to the Convenient Food Mart in town closing, because both Greg's Market locations stayed open and are open to this day. However, I can say that Convenient Food Mart had lower prices on deli products, especially cheeses, than anywhere else in town, so automatically, Wal-Mart charged a higher price on those than a store that went out of business.

However, I don't believe that Wal Mart's prices on those deli items was ever the same in the first place, and I also don't think they really cared at all about what Convenient Food Mart did or did not do one way or the other.

Ah finally, a serious reply. (Are you listening, rxwine???) You took the words right out of my mouth in the bolded part. I have no idea why some people think that Walmart even gives a crap about a small store when it's no threat to them at all. There's no way in hell a tiny little mom-and-pop shop is going to hurt a behemoth like Walmart.



rxwine, please take note:
Quote: Mission146

On the other hand, Wal-Mart did have cheaper prices on tools than K&W Pro Hardware

Like I said before, Walmart very often has prices LOWER than the smaller stores. So your argument that Walmart specifically comes in to a small town, lowers prices, puts the tiny mom-and-pop shop out of business, and then raises prices to a point higher than what the mom-and-pop shop had.....well, that argument is just plain s2pid!

Just admit it, dude. Walmart is a HUGE benefit to the consumer.



Quote: rxwine

What kind of fantasy world are you living in, I don't have any responsibility to you. You bullshit about your success when you never have any.

Wow, what an excellent argument to support your position! lol
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rxwine
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December 1st, 2013 at 8:31:36 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

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Fixed it. I assume you want to talk about more gay stuff, since I've told you repeatedly your posts are worthless trash, and you have nothing of interest worth debating.
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Beethoven9th
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December 1st, 2013 at 8:50:15 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Fixed it. I assume you want to talk about more gay stuff, since I've told you repeatedly your posts are worthless trash, and you have nothing of interest worth debating.


That's the 5th time you've made a 'gay' reference out of the blue. You obviously have some 'issues' that need to be resolved. lol
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December 1st, 2013 at 8:54:35 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

That's the 5th time you've made a 'gay' reference out of the blue. You obviously have some 'issues' that need to be resolved. lol[



I have no issues about it at all. But as long as it's a gay related topic you may continue undeleted.
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