What kind of car does mkl654321 drive?
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Quote: mkl654321You have to keep in mind how people who disagree with Jerry are usually characterized.
That valet guy very likely doesn't have more than, say, thirty minutes' total lifetime experience driving cars identical to the one he is driving right now, zooming around those corners. Cars cost money, are valuable possessions, and even if the casino would compensate you for its valet crashing your car into a wall, it would be massively inconvenient to lose your car in the middle of a Vegas visit. So a valet driving a customer's car like that is being irresponsible, and I for one would NOT tip a valet who handled my car recklessly, even if he did get it down the ramp in one piece THIS time.
The problem YOU have is money. You likely drive a junker and can't afford to have someone else mess it up. If mine gets messed or banged around I just get it fixed or buy a new one. And if I "lose it in the middle of a Vegas visit" I'll rent a car. Oh wait, that means I need a CREDIT CARD with a high enough limit. Not a teacher's bag either I assume.
Quote: JerryLoganThe problem YOU have is money. You likely drive a junker and can't afford to have someone else mess it up. If mine gets messed or banged around I just get it fixed or buy a new one. And if I "lose it in the middle of a Vegas visit" I'll rent a car. Oh wait, that means I need a CREDIT CARD with a high enough limit. Not a teacher's bag either I assume.
Hee hee, Jerry. You are SOOOOO predictable. It was a "lock" that you would make some remark about the car I drive, even though you don't have the slightest idea what that car is. You take every available opportunity to show us what a mean-spirited person you are.
And I have one credit card, which is enough for me. I suppose a manly man like you has dozens. All maxed out. Those $10,000 football bets can be a real drain on the ol' finances, even if you are a fabulously rich world-famous TRUCKING COMPANY EXEC.
I'm a vp of operations for this REGION, not a company executive vp. Execs don't work from home. You can't even get THAT right, even with all that MENSA experience!
What's your car? (This will be fun!)
Quote: JerryLoganYou keep calling me an "executive" but I expect a teacher wouldn't know the business world very well------oh wait! You know something about EVERYTHING!
I'm a vp of operations for this REGION, not a company executive vp. Execs don't work from home. You can't even get THAT right, even with all that MENSA experience!
What's your car? (This will be fun!)
Let's see...I said I was from Oregon, so he insulted Oregon...
I said I was a teacher, so he insulted teachers...
I said I had belonged to Mensa, so he insulted Mensans...
I said I was an advantage player, so he insulted advantage players...
Do you see a pattern here, boys and girls?
And what do I drive? I'll leave you guessing, Jerry.
And I'm sorry I called you an "executive" when you are actually Head Jerk of Operations.
Quote: mkl654321And what do I drive? I'll leave you guessing, Jerry.
I guess a rusty old Volvo.
Whatever it is, I don't think anyone would want to try to drive it from Portland to Seattle.
Quote: Mosca"FUCK YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!... You see this watch? You see this watch? That watch cost more than your car. I made $970,000 last year. How much you make? You see, pal, that's who I am. And you're nothing. Nice guy? I don't give a shit. Good father? Fuck you -- go home and play with your kids!!"
That was a great movie, Mosca!
Quote: benbakdoffThat was a great movie, Mosca!
Everyone remembers the Baldwin monologue, but they forget that the leads really were weak, that Spacey was screwing them. Baldwin couldn't have closed the leads, but that wasn't important; what was important was that the only thing that mattered right then was the bluster, the bravado, the braggadocio.
Cars don't matter for shit. I guess that mkl drives a high mileage Subaru. For what it's worth, I drive a Miata (the fun car) and an Altima. Wife drives a Malibu. I keep trying to get her to get something else, but we have a daughter in an expensive school, and no new car for 2 more years.
Jerry drives an Audi, I think. Nice cars. Good thing they come with free maintenance, they're expensive to keep. The maintenance makes it worthwhile, IMO.
Quote: JerryLoganDid you say Volvo because that's the car of choice of homos??
Whatever it is, I don't think anyone would want to try to drive it from Portland to Seattle.
Ahh, Jerry, now I'm a "homo".
Whatever I may be, Jerry, and whatever I may drive, I'm not YOU. That's one virtue I have.
Quote: WizardI guess a rusty old Volvo.
No, around here the rusty old Volvo is the 80's version of the VW bus, so it's in high demand, and there are never any for sale.
I DID drive a Volvo 740 for a couple of years, some time ago. One of the best cars I ever owned, and it was a diesel so it got 30 MPG.
Quote: mkl654321
I DID drive a Volvo 740 for a couple of years, some time ago.
Never owned a foreign car in my life and I don't have any plans too. I drive nothing but good ol American trucks and vans, always have.
Quote: EvenBobNever owned a foreign car in my life and I don't have any plans too. I drive nothing but good ol American trucks and vans, always have.
I drove good ol' American cars until particularly in the 70s and 80s, they were good ol' pieces of malfunctioning junk made by good ol' union labor that particularly on Monday and Fridays, made good ol' cars that wouldn't last 10,000 miles before their owners had to call a good ol' American tow truck.
I drove a Plymouth Voyager van that went through three transmissions in a year. The reason was, the transmission cooling system was so badly designed, the coolant would boil inside the transmission. I limped into an Aamco shop one Sunday night, having had to descend from Eisenhower Summit into Denver with nothing left but first gear, and of the twelve cars in the lot, seven were Chrysler or Plymouth vans. My next purchase was a Honda van.
I drove a Ford Escort whose engine literally fell out of the car at 45,000 miles, a Ford Pinto whose windshield shattered when I slammed the passenger door, and a Ford sedan that went through three engines in two years. I have since been cured of good ol' American cars, so that ought to help all you guessers out there (and no one has even gotten close yet).
Quote: mkl654321I drove a Ford Escort whose engine literally fell out of the car at 45,000 miles, a Ford Pinto
Personally, I don't think you're old enough to have driven either one, they were way before your time. I drive nothing but GM products and have never had a problem. Got 250K on a 86 Chevy van before I sold it, its probably still on the road. My brother in law has a 2 GM cars, one has 400K and the other just flipped 300K.
Quote: EvenBobPersonally, I don't think you're old enough to have driven either one, they were way before your time. I drive nothing but GM products and have never had a problem. Got 250K on a 86 Chevy van before I sold it, its probably still on the road. My brother in law has a 2 GM cars, one has 400K and the other just flipped 300K.
GM Cars always ran bad longer than most other cars ran.
Quote: EvenBobPersonally, I don't think you're old enough to have driven either one, they were way before your time. I drive nothing but GM products and have never had a problem. Got 250K on a 86 Chevy van before I sold it, its probably still on the road. My brother in law has a 2 GM cars, one has 400K and the other just flipped 300K.
What exactly do you think "my time" is, or was? The cars I mentioned were manufactured in the 70s and 80s.
Quote: JerryLoganDid you say Volvo because that's the car of choice of homos??
What kind of car do YOU drive, Jerry? I think we need to know what car is the choice of assholes.
Quote: MoscaEveryone remembers the Baldwin monologue, but they forget that the leads really were weak, that Spacey was screwing them. Baldwin couldn't have closed the leads, but that wasn't important; what was important was that the only thing that mattered right then was the bluster, the bravado, the braggadocio.
I once was at a meeting where the new state sales manager told the managers if they hadn't seen that movie to go rent it.
The thing about that movie was it was so right on all sides. Yes, the leads were weak. But giving them to that sales crew was thriowing them away. I have managed salespeople and I swear it is worse than taking care of children. I had one literally blew off a whole day of 4 appointments and when I fired him he cried racism to the cops I had to call to get him out of my office. Another asked why so-and-so got a morning off and I wouldn't give her a morning off, she had a blank stare when I said, "so-and-so is making his sales quota and you are not." Then another who claimed I didn't give him enough direction and support yet didn't even follow the directions to the other location I sent him to for training. No kidding--gave him door to door directions yet he just asks at the hotel and suprise suprise ends up at the wrong place. Eventually I just took the attitude--YOU WANT TO WORK HERE--CLOSE!
Quote: mkl654321What kind of car do YOU drive, Jerry? I think we need to know what car is the choice of assholes.
Audi, and my "fun" car is a fully restored Yenko Camaro. I'm not mentioning what my wife drives because my wife's a female and you wouldn't understand that.
Quote: JerryLoganAudi, and my "fun" car is a fully restored Yenko Camaro. I'm not mentioning what my wife drives because my wife's a female and you wouldn't understand that.
Hmmm. EvenBob wouldn't approve of your driving a foreign car.
And I understand what females are, Jerry. The real question is whether YOU do (your posts suggest that you have no idea).
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: MoscaEveryone remembers the Baldwin monologue, but they forget that the leads really were weak, that Spacey was screwing them. Baldwin couldn't have closed the leads, but that wasn't important; what was important was that the only thing that mattered right then was the bluster, the bravado, the braggadocio.
I once was at a meeting where the new state sales manager told the managers if they hadn't seen that movie to go rent it.
The thing about that movie was it was so right on all sides. Yes, the leads were weak. But giving them to that sales crew was thriowing them away. I have managed salespeople and I swear it is worse than taking care of children. I had one literally blew off a whole day of 4 appointments and when I fired him he cried racism to the cops I had to call to get him out of my office. Another asked why so-and-so got a morning off and I wouldn't give her a morning off, she had a blank stare when I said, "so-and-so is making his sales quota and you are not." Then another who claimed I didn't give him enough direction and support yet didn't even follow the directions to the other location I sent him to for training. No kidding--gave him door to door directions yet he just asks at the hotel and suprise suprise ends up at the wrong place. Eventually I just took the attitude--YOU WANT TO WORK HERE--CLOSE!
LOL, I manage salespeople. I agree. We just let two go, last week; one tried so hard, but she didn't get it, didn't understand. Kept coming back saying that the customer was closed, then we'd find out there was no agreement on price, or anything else really. The other guy was just lazy and thought he knew it all, sat around talking to the other salespeople but never to customers.
The way I saw that movie was that it was an allegory for life, Spacey was god screwing everybody. Dealt this hand? Winner in life. Dealt that hand? Loser. Still a great film, just so freakin' BLEAK.
Quote: mkl654321What exactly do you think "my time" is, or was? The cars I mentioned were manufactured in the 70s and 80s.
I don't think you're older than 27, probably younger. Which means you've been driving maybe 10 years. Why do I think that? You talk like a kid in his 20's who's trying to act older. You brag too much.
Quote: EvenBobI don't think you're older than 27, probably younger. Which means you've been driving maybe 10 years. Why do I think that? You talk like a kid in his 20's who's trying to act older. You brag too much.
Without telling you what my real age is, Bob, I CAN tell you that you're way, way off.
Quote: mkl654321Without telling you what my real age is, Bob, I CAN tell you that you're way, way off.
Sure I am, Will Hunting, sure I am. LOL!
Quote: MoscaThe way I saw that movie was that it was an allegory for life, Spacey was god screwing everybody. Dealt this hand? Winner in life. Dealt that hand? Loser. Still a great film, just so freakin' BLEAK.
A salesperson's life is kind of bleak anyways. The good ones seem to have a personal life where they are trying to support a wife, ex-wife, girlfriend, bookie, and three credit card companies all on one paycheck. Someone once told me "show me a producing slaesperson and I'll show you someone in debt up to their eyeballs.
" As a group they seem to be programed to be one step ahead no matter if they are driving the BMW or the 1985 Chevette. So hire the one with the nicer car I guess, his life problems will still be a pain to deal with but he will be selling more to keep a step ahead of them.
BTW: Not sure how long you have been managing salespeople but this one always got me in interviews. You ask, "Can you sell?" and they say, "If I believe in the product or service." NEVER hire someone who gives that answer. They typically couldn't sell cold water in the desert and don't understand the truth behind the Baldwin speech.
Quote: AZDuffmanBTW: Not sure how long you have been managing salespeople
Since 1989. [edit] Check that; 1987. Sept 1987. I took a 3 month bounce-down in late '88 before changing companies in early '89.
Quote: AZDuffmanbut this one always got me in interviews. You ask, "Can you sell?" and they say, "If I believe in the product or service." NEVER hire someone who gives that answer. They typically couldn't sell cold water in the desert and don't understand the truth behind the Baldwin speech.
Yep. And the other one is, "Why do you want to work for us, selling XXX?" "Because I've always loved XXX!" WRONG! Because you want to make money!
"Why do you think you'll be successful selling XXX?" "Because I know XXX inside and out." WRONG! Because you know people inside and out, and want to make a lot of money satisfying their needs with XXX!
Quote: EvenBobSure I am, Will Hunting, sure I am. LOL!
Want to bet some real money, LOL? (though I am not a fictional movie character--you seem to have such trouble differentiating real people from fictional people)
Quote: mkl654321Want to bet some real money,
Nobody over the age of 30 brags about their IQ, yet you did. You do that kind of thing all the time. Like all young people, you think its the facts about you that are important and how others judge you. The very fact that you care about the age thing means you're not that old. I could care less then less how old you think I am, its not important. I think you're 26, so what.
Quote: EvenBobNobody over the age of 30 brags about their IQ, yet you did. You do that kind of thing all the time. Like all young people, you think its the facts about you that are important and how others judge you. The very fact that you care about the age thing means you're not that old. I could care less then less how old you think I am, its not important. I think you're 26, so what.
Bob, sometimes you don't make any sense at all. I neither "care about the age thing", nor do I care how old you are, and I never said that I did!
You are embarrassingly wrong about my age. Want to put your money where your mouth is? The Wizard can verify my age when he and I meet in Vegas next month. Want to bet that you're right? Or anything resembling right? I'll give you 20-1 for any amount you care to name. What about it, Bob? Want to defend your GUESS with some cold, hard cash?
I'll take any bet you want to make. Mail the Wiz five dollars and if you're right about my age (26 or 27), or even CLOSE, I'll give the Wiz a cool hundo for you.
Quote: mkl654321You are embarrassingly wrong about my age.
There's no way to prove it other than a fake drivers license or faked birth certificate or fake whatever, and I really don't care that much, Will Hunting. The fact that you do speaks volumes, however.
Quote: mkl654321Bob, sometimes you don't make any sense at all. I neither "care about the age thing", nor do I care how old you are, and I never said that I did!
You are embarrassingly wrong about my age. Want to put your money where your mouth is? The Wizard can verify my age when he and I meet in Vegas next month. Want to bet that you're right? Or anything resembling right? I'll give you 20-1 for any amount you care to name. What about it, Bob? Want to defend your GUESS with some cold, hard cash?
I'll take any bet you want to make. Mail the Wiz five dollars and if you're right about my age (26 or 27), or even CLOSE, I'll give the Wiz a cool hundo for you.
You seem to be having a very hard time getting along with others and not insulting them with name-calling. You also spend a lot of time on here and another forum, which says how lonely a person you are. I know I'm getting to you because I've coerced you into long rambling essays to nowhere earlier. But just think: Soon I'll be counting not only my $10,000 that I bet today, but also the $9000 that I won! Makes a loner's skin crawl does it not!
Quote: JerryLoganYou seem to be having a very hard time getting along with others and not insulting them with name-calling. You also spend a lot of time on here and another forum, which says how lonely a person you are. I know I'm getting to you because I've coerced you into long rambling essays to nowhere earlier. But just think: Soon I'll be counting not only my $10,000 that I bet today, but also the $9000 that I won! Makes a loner's skin crawl does it not!
I haven't made a single post on any other forum in months. Wrong, Jerry.
You know nothing about my personal life, and every single one of your shithead unfounded characterizations is wrong. Wrong, Jerry.
I write what I want, however long I want, and you aren't capable of "coercing" me into anything. Wrong, Jerry.
You haven't won any $9,000 dollars. There was no bet. You're a liar, Jerry.
I've been monitoring your posts to see how many times you've violated the Wiz's rules since they were posted. But the Wiz doesn't seem to want to enforce those rules against you, so I'm not going to bother any more.
I think that everyone on this forum knows what kind of person you are. You are loathsome beyond description. Not only that, but you are a liar and a fraud, just like your hero, Rob Singer. I'm sorry that I can't enjoy this forum without you in it, but I do have the option of blocking you once again.
You know what makes you a colossal bastard most of all, Jerry? I tried twice to make peace with you, and treat you like a human being--which you don't deserve--and you rejected that. So you prefer to stew in your basement and search out people to antagonize? Fine. I deal with human beings in MY job. You avoid them, and I must say, I understand why.
Quote: mkl654321I haven't made a single post on any other forum in months. Wrong, Jerry.
You know nothing about my personal life, and every single one of your shithead unfounded characterizations is wrong. Wrong, Jerry.
I write what I want, however long I want, and you aren't capable of "coercing" me into anything. Wrong, Jerry.
You haven't won any $9,000 dollars. There was no bet. You're a liar, Jerry.
I've been monitoring your posts to see how many times you've violated the Wiz's rules since they were posted. But the Wiz doesn't seem to want to enforce those rules against you, so I'm not going to bother any more.
I think that everyone on this forum knows what kind of person you are. You are loathsome beyond description. Not only that, but you are a liar and a fraud, just like your hero, Rob Singer. I'm sorry that I can't enjoy this forum without you in it, but I do have the option of blocking you once again.
You know what makes you a colossal bastard most of all, Jerry? I tried twice to make peace with you, and treat you like a human being--which you don't deserve--and you rejected that. So you prefer to stew in your basement and search out people to antagonize? Fine. I deal with human beings in MY job. You avoid them, and I must say, I understand why.
This is funny. The guy once again steps in his own pile!
1. Denial....the #2 problem of liars.
2. We know "nothing about his personal life". OK...old fart 52, Mazda sissy car, gay, liberal, Eugene, yada yada yada. Am I close?
3. While I'm counting the cash, you're counting gladiators on the tube.
4. waaa...waaa...waaa...!
5. Please...PLEASE don't block me AGAIN! Why, I don't know what I'd do without my whipping post!!
6. Awe, you wanna be my friend. So sweet..... BUT DON'T TOUCH MY JUNK OR I'LL HAVE YOU ARRESTED!
