s2dbaker
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January 28th, 2012 at 7:37:16 AM permalink
A Rock Gaming casino under construction in Cincinnati collapsed while the construction crew was pouring a floor on the second story. Fortunately, no one died.
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January 28th, 2012 at 7:44:33 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

A Rock Gaming casino under construction in Cincinnati collapsed while the construction crew was pouring a floor on the second story. Fortunately, no one died.



I saw that on the news... this is terrible for Horseshoe and ROC. I guarantee you that they are doing their best to minimize what happened, as Cleveland is set to open up in the next few months.

In fact, their website via Horseshoe doesn't even have a press release up about it. Granted, Horseshoe is just the managing partner, but you'd think that people would want to know what happened.
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January 28th, 2012 at 7:59:08 PM permalink
And what is even more bizarre, there was a similar incident
while working on the parking garage at the one in Cleveland
a month or two ago.
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January 29th, 2012 at 1:45:14 AM permalink
someone is going to get fired for that. If they deviated from design the site engineer is to blame, if not the design engineer is in big trouble. any more links?
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10042-woes-black-sheep-game-ii/#post151727
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January 29th, 2012 at 5:10:02 AM permalink
Here's a link to the [http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/cleveland-police-floor-of-new-casino-at-prospect-and-ontario-has-collapsed] CLEVELAND story. Fortunately here no one was hurt.
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January 29th, 2012 at 5:11:57 AM permalink
Lemme try that formatting again:

Cleveland Casino Parking Garage
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January 29th, 2012 at 6:03:31 AM permalink
It takes a real slow day for something like this to be newsworthy.
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January 29th, 2012 at 6:32:25 AM permalink
Quote: P90

It takes a real slow day for something like this to be newsworthy.



Or a really fantastic PR department to keep it from being a HUGE news story.
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January 29th, 2012 at 6:59:08 AM permalink
A parking garage construction incident with no casualties or injuries? Buildings under construction are held up by a fraction of their design support, a certain failure rate is anticipated. Maybe it got news coverage because it's related to a casino, IDK.

The same day, December 16, 2011, there was a number of other constriction incidents, some with injuries and possibly fatalities.
Here's a glimpse into accidents around that time.
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January 29th, 2012 at 7:01:36 AM permalink
It closed roads. It's newsworthy.
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January 29th, 2012 at 7:02:44 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

It closed roads. It's newsworthy.


Ah, now that's a disturbance. I stand corrected.
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January 29th, 2012 at 7:07:27 AM permalink
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Ah, now that's a disturbance. I stand corrected.

I'm sure that the fact that the collapse happened at a casino construction site adds the the interest as well.
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January 29th, 2012 at 7:10:43 AM permalink
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Buildings under construction are held up by a fraction of their design support, a certain failure rate is anticipated.

Really? Wow! My working assumption is that finished buildings are very strong and hardly ever collapse. Why are under construction buildings weaker? Forgive my ignorance, but why not build the strong support stuff first?
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January 29th, 2012 at 7:26:05 AM permalink
Modern buildings are continuous structures, concrete poured down portion by portion into wooden forms around a welded steel wireframe. It's not like brick, steel and wood, where you build self-sufficient supports first and then lay down the flooring. Columns are themselves supported against collapse by the floors. Modern concrete can be very strong when cured, but the previous level is only starting to cure by the time you start building the next, so it isn't there yet either.

When it's complete, it becomes essentially just one solid piece of reinforced concrete.
You can see on the photos it's actually just wooden planks and plywood with still liquid concrete mix poured over it that gave.
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January 29th, 2012 at 7:36:02 AM permalink
Cocrete weighs more before it cures. I'v heard 2-3 times due to water.
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January 29th, 2012 at 8:02:40 AM permalink
Only a small percentage of weight is really lost in curing, it's commonly within 10%. Water reacts with cement chemically, it doesn't all just evaporate.
But it can take a long time to cure completely. Hoover Dam is only expected to reach its full strength by around 2050. Smaller buildings reach design strength in weeks to months.
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January 29th, 2012 at 1:35:11 PM permalink
Thats what happens when you hire the lowest
bidder. From Sri Lanka.
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