DJTeddyBear
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March 15th, 2016 at 8:00:22 AM permalink
As mentioned in the other thread, I'm arriving around noon on Saturday, and will participate in whatever is planned for Saturday.


Since there hasn't been much said about it, I'm taking the lead for Sunday, and am suggesting the following downtown walking tour agenda. In other words, I plan on doing all this, and invite others to join, unless someone can come up with a better plan.


The start time will be decided and announced on Saturday, but I'm shooting for 9:00.

I realize that some of you (myself included) might have a hard time starting early, particularly after the festivities the prior night. As such, items 1-5 might be scratched or moved to Monday.


1 - Golden Gate craps. More of a place to gather as we groggily stumble out of our hotel room.

2 - DuPars for breakfast. (Mmmmm, Pancakes!)

3 - Gamblers General Store.

4 - Gold & Silver Pawn (Pawn Stars). I've been there, done that, no real interest. But GGS to ElC can take this route, or up Main St to Fremont. Same distance. Plus, there may be something of interest on LV Blvd that I'm missing.

5 - Burlesque Hall Of Fame. I've never been there, nor did I even know it existed. I just noticed it on Google Maps, next to El Cortez. burlesquehall.com - $5 admission.

6 - El Cortez for BlackJack. See if any of us can get backed off, or at least flat betted.

7 - Container Park for lunch. Note that I've never been there but keep hearing good things about it on Five Hundy.

8 - Neon Museum. Because of limited space, this MUST be booked ahead of time, for a specific time slot. It lasts an hour, and they have slots every half hour. I'm thinking 3:00. neonmuseum.org - $18 OR $30 for a combo Mob Museum ticket.

9 - Downtown Grand. Slot Race. See description below. Perhaps additional group gambling.

10 - Mob Museum. themobmuseum.org - $20 or $30 for the Neon Museum combo. Buying tickets online is recommended.


Is it a lot of walking? Depends on what you think is a lot. Using the Google Maps measurement tool, I've come up with 3 miles of walking point to point, not including the walking within each stop. The longest single walking segment of the waling is .7 mile. As a point of reference, the Plaza to El Cortez is .45 mile. Wynn to Mandalay Bay is 2.5 miles.

If anyone wants to join us midway, we can exchange phone numbers on Saturday so you can get our location status update. Or I may post status updates in this thread.




Slot Race:

I'm not a big slot player. I suspect most WoV members are the same way. At any rate, make a stupid competition out of it, and it can be a lot of fun.

The winner is the first player to get to zero.

While there is an incentive to lose, the weasel and hand-pay clauses also provide incentives to win.


We all play at a bank of similar priced machines (I.E., the same number of lines, number of max credits per line and price per credit). No video poker. This is strictly a luck thing. And a stupid luck thing at that.

No need for all players to be on the same machine title. Just the same denomination and min/max per spin, and in relative close proximity.

For a specific buy-in ($20?) we play for a specified time (15 minutes?).

Players can play using any strategy they want. I.E. Play max credits or single credit per spin, or anything in-between, and at any speed they wish.

The game ends when any player gets to zero, or any player triggers a hand-pay. Otherwise, it ends at the specified time limit.

If no player gets to zero by the end of the time limit, or there is a hand-pay, the game ends there, and all players keep whatever cash they have left in the machine (and can continue playing on their own, if they wish).

If the game ends with a player getting to zero, all other players complete the spin they are on, and complete any bonus round they may be involved in, then hit the cash out button.

If a player gets to zero, all other players give that player their tito ticket.

Weasel clause: If a player had a winning session (but had not gotten a hand pay), they may opt-out by paying an amount equal to double the buy-in plus 10% of what's on their tito ticket.
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March 15th, 2016 at 8:22:49 AM permalink
When is this again?
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March 15th, 2016 at 8:29:16 AM permalink
Sorry about that.

These Sunday events are 4/17.

The main event is 4/16 with some pre-event stuff on 4/15. Details: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/las-vegas-attractions/other/25036-wov-2016-spring-fling-where-and-what/
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March 15th, 2016 at 8:37:19 AM permalink
What if you get down to something like 7 cents and you don't technically have 0, but you don't technically have enough to bet?
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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March 15th, 2016 at 8:38:14 AM permalink
Damn coming out for ufc wish there wasn't such a gap in between.
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March 15th, 2016 at 8:47:03 AM permalink
Wow, thanks for sharing
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March 15th, 2016 at 9:38:50 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

What if you get down to something like 7 cents and you don't technically have 0, but you don't technically have enough to bet?

I'd say that qualifies. But I thought machines will allow you to bet a single line, one credit, so this shouldn't be a issue. Am I wrong?
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March 15th, 2016 at 9:49:21 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I'd say that qualifies. But I thought machines will allow you to bet a single line, one credit, so this shouldn't be a issue. Am I wrong?

I'm not a big slot guy, I think some machines indeed go down to single line 1 credit, but I've definitely seen others where you can't bet anymore once you're down so low.
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March 15th, 2016 at 1:58:51 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

As mentioned in the other thread, I'm arriving around noon on Saturday, and will participate in whatever is planned for Saturday.


Since there hasn't been much said about it, I'm taking the lead for Sunday, and am suggesting the following downtown walking tour agenda. In other words, I plan on doing all this, and invite others to join, unless someone can come up with a better plan.


The start time will be decided and announced on Saturday, but I'm shooting for 9:00.

I realize that some of you (myself included) might have a hard time starting early, particularly after the festivities the prior night. As such, items 1-5 might be scratched or moved to Monday.


1 - Golden Gate craps. More of a place to gather as we groggily stumble out of our hotel room.

2 - DuPars for breakfast. (Mmmmm, Pancakes!)

3 - Gamblers General Store.

4 - Gold & Silver Pawn (Pawn Stars). I've been there, done that, no real interest. But GGS to ElC can take this route, or up Main St to Fremont. Same distance. Plus, there may be something of interest on LV Blvd that I'm missing.

5 - Burlesque Hall Of Fame. I've never been there, nor did I even know it existed. I just noticed it on Google Maps, next to El Cortez. burlesquehall.com - $5 admission.

6 - El Cortez for BlackJack. See if any of us can get backed off, or at least flat betted.

7 - Container Park for lunch. Note that I've never been there but keep hearing good things about it on Five Hundy.

8 - Neon Museum. Because of limited space, this MUST be booked ahead of time, for a specific time slot. It lasts an hour, and they have slots every half hour. I'm thinking 3:00. neonmuseum.org - $18 OR $30 for a combo Mob Museum ticket.

9 - Downtown Grand. Slot Race. See description below. Perhaps additional group gambling.

10 - Mob Museum. themobmuseum.org - $20 or $30 for the Neon Museum combo. Buying tickets online is recommended.


Is it a lot of walking? Depends on what you think is a lot. Using the Google Maps measurement tool, I've come up with 3 miles of walking point to point, not including the walking within each stop. The longest single walking segment of the waling is .7 mile. As a point of reference, the Plaza to El Cortez is .45 mile. Wynn to Mandalay Bay is 2.5 miles.

If anyone wants to join us midway, we can exchange phone numbers on Saturday so you can get our location status update. Or I may post status updates in this thread.




Slot Race:

I'm not a big slot player. I suspect most WoV members are the same way. At any rate, make a stupid competition out of it, and it can be a lot of fun.

The winner is the first player to get to zero.

While there is an incentive to lose, the weasel and hand-pay clauses also provide incentives to win.


We all play at a bank of similar priced machines (I.E., the same number of lines, number of max credits per line and price per credit). No video poker. This is strictly a luck thing. And a stupid luck thing at that.

No need for all players to be on the same machine title. Just the same denomination and min/max per spin, and in relative close proximity.

For a specific buy-in ($20?) we play for a specified time (15 minutes?).

Players can play using any strategy they want. I.E. Play max credits or single credit per spin, or anything in-between, and at any speed they wish.

The game ends when any player gets to zero, or any player triggers a hand-pay. Otherwise, it ends at the specified time limit.

If no player gets to zero by the end of the time limit, or there is a hand-pay, the game ends there, and all players keep whatever cash they have left in the machine (and can continue playing on their own, if they wish).

If the game ends with a player getting to zero, all other players complete the spin they are on, and complete any bonus round they may be involved in, then hit the cash out button.

If a player gets to zero, all other players give that player their tito ticket.

Weasel clause: If a player had a winning session (but had not gotten a hand pay), they may opt-out by paying an amount equal to double the buy-in plus 10% of what's on their tito ticket.


Excellent plan DJTB, I love the whole itinerary! Count me in even if it starts at 9 am :)
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March 15th, 2016 at 3:18:36 PM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

Excellent plan DJTB, I love the whole itinerary! Count me in even if it starts at 9 am :)

Glad you like it.

If interested, I created a Google Map that shows all these tour stops.


Quote: DJTeddyBear

8 - Neon Museum. Because of limited space, this MUST be booked ahead of time, for a specific time slot. It lasts an hour, and they have slots every half hour. I'm thinking 3:00. neonmuseum.org - $18 OR $30 for a combo Mob Museum ticket.

I'd like those that are planning on participating to respond to this point. Is 3:00 good? If so, how many people are you? Bottom line, if there are enough people, I'm gonna contact them about a group rate.
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March 15th, 2016 at 4:29:22 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Glad you like it.

If interested, I created a Google Map that shows all these tour stops.


I'd like those that are planning on participating to respond to this point. Is 3:00 good? If so, how many people are you? Bottom line, if there are enough people, I'm gonna contact them about a group rate.


I am in for 3:00. I am one person although I eat for two :)
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March 15th, 2016 at 7:37:55 PM permalink
Sounds like fun! I've been wanting to visit more places and this sounds like a perfect opportunity. The only place on the list that I've been to is Gambler's General Store. I've been wanting to go back for a craps stick, but wouldn't want to carry it around the rest of the day.

The Burlesque HoF opens at noon, but I anticipate it being at least 12:30 by the time we leave Gold & Silver Pawn Store. It'll probably be after 2 PM before we get over to Downtown Container Park, and there are several eateries to choose from. With a quick bite to eat, timing should be good for a 3:30 PM tour at the Neon Museum. (3 PM is not a listed option.)

I noticed that the Mob Museum also wants you to select a date & time when purchasing tickets, but doesn't give much info on the combo tickets. The Neon Museum lets you purchase a combo ticket for your selected Neon Museum tour time and says the Mob Museum ticket must be used within 7 days prior or after. If selecting a Mob Museum tour time isn't included in the purchase, I'm concerned you might encounter an issue with tours being full.

The Mob Museum website says groups of 10 or more qualify for group pricing at $16. I did not see anything that indicated you could purchase group rate combo tickets, nor did I see anything about group pricing on the Neon Museum website. The combo ticket provides an $8 discount. Also, the Nevada resident adult ticket prices are $14 at the Mob Museum and $12 at the Neon Museum. (Therefore, exclude me from the possible group rate purchase.)

The slot race sounds fun. I liked to play Quick Hits and have seen $20 disappear pretty quickly. Even though they are typically "1¢ machines", that is 1¢ per line. I think the minimum bet is 30¢
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March 16th, 2016 at 6:00:34 PM permalink
I would like to join in on Sunday but I cannot commit at this time. I want to keep Sunday early afternoon free for now. As we get closer (about a week out) then I can make a decision. If by then it is too late to get a spot on the tours then I will just drop in to whatever it is you guys are doing (meals, gambling).
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April 5th, 2016 at 8:35:40 AM permalink
I got a feeling there's only 3 of us. And that's fine by me. Fact is, I'm gonna take this walk, even if I gotta do it alone.


From the sound of it, I think the 3:30 slot at Neon Museum works best. Unless I hear comments to the contrary, I'm gonna buy my Neon/Mob Museums combo ticket tomorrow.
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April 5th, 2016 at 8:52:32 AM permalink
Are you buying the combo ticket online?
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April 5th, 2016 at 10:15:01 AM permalink
That's the plan. Why?
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April 5th, 2016 at 12:20:32 PM permalink
Just was wondering if that was a possibility. Do I need to buy my tickets for a certain time?
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April 5th, 2016 at 1:23:27 PM permalink
Yes, for the Neon Museum, because it's a guided tour with limited space. I gotta read the fine print tonight, but I think the Mob part of the combo is open for the next 7 days after pick up.
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April 5th, 2016 at 2:47:03 PM permalink
Ok so what time would you like me to buy my ticket for the neon museum
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April 5th, 2016 at 6:16:55 PM permalink
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Ok so what time would you like me to buy my ticket for the neon museum

2:00 or 3:30, doesn't matter to me. But in the second post on this page, BlueEagle said he thinks 3:30 is better. So unless there's a contrary comment, I'm getting the 3:30 ticket.
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April 5th, 2016 at 6:56:02 PM permalink
Ok I will do the same.
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April 5th, 2016 at 7:59:48 PM permalink
Ok, it's settled.

Anybody that wants to join us for the Sunday walking tour, AND wants to include the Neon Museum, should get the 3:30 time slot. http://www.neonmuseum.org/book-a-tour?d=4%2F17%2F2016

Edit: I just purchased my ticket. 4/17, 3:30
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April 14th, 2016 at 6:18:39 PM permalink
There are only 3 spots open in the 3:30 tour of the Neon Museum.

Is this a shameless thread bump? Perhaps. So here's a joke. (Or is this a riddle?)


What is the world's greatest trust? (As in, a trust between two people.)

Two cannibals having oral sex.
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April 14th, 2016 at 7:32:12 PM permalink
Not going to do the neon tour but are you still going to the book shop?
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April 14th, 2016 at 7:46:23 PM permalink
I just purchased a ticket for The Neon Museum. The Mob Museum website gives me the impression that I can buy the locals ticket there for the same price as online, so I'll plan to buy it there in case the itinerary changes.


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Not going to do the neon tour but are you still going to the book shop?

Are you referring to the Gambler's General Store?
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April 14th, 2016 at 7:49:37 PM permalink
Yes, may be interested in mob musuem as well
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April 17th, 2016 at 6:08:39 AM permalink
It's 6am and I'm already awake. What was that part about groggily stumbling to the craps table to gather at 9ish???

Anyway, I'm going to be posting today's group whereabouts in this thread. It's still not too late for additional people to join us for part of the walk and/or midway.

And a reminder: feel free to call or text me at 973-896-7905. Of course, there's the chance I won't hear it ring, particularly if I'm in a casino...

See you at 9:00.
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April 17th, 2016 at 8:41:03 AM permalink
Ok. I'm at craps. No other players so far...
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April 17th, 2016 at 9:20:21 AM permalink
At DuPars
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April 17th, 2016 at 10:20:11 AM permalink
Walking to Gambler's General Store
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April 17th, 2016 at 11:37:05 AM permalink
Heading to Gold & Silver
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April 17th, 2016 at 12:46:37 PM permalink
Did Burlesque and ElC.

Off to comtainer park
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April 17th, 2016 at 12:53:37 PM permalink
Container park? Meh...


Off to DTG, for free buy craps, and lunch. Then Neon...
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April 17th, 2016 at 2:58:25 PM permalink
Ended up at MSS for buffet.

Off to Neon Museum...
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April 17th, 2016 at 5:15:09 PM permalink
Neon museum was cool. Much better than when I went 10 years ago.

But I AM beat. Sitting at poker at GN.

Gonna use my Mob Museym ticket tomorrow.

See ya at the McNugget challenge.
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April 17th, 2016 at 5:43:51 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Neon museum was cool. Much better than when I went 10 years ago.

But I AM beat. Sitting at poker at GN.

Gonna use my Mob Museym ticket tomorrow.

See ya at the McNugget challenge.



I have wanted to go there. Is it big? Every time I see it on TV they do the shot in front of the Stardust sign. I have probably seen that sign on 25 different shows.
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April 17th, 2016 at 6:50:04 PM permalink
I thought it was bigger when I went about 10 years ago.

But it was still cool.
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April 17th, 2016 at 7:24:50 PM permalink
good to see your updates. spent a few hours and 25 bucks at the pinball hof, like i always do. much stress free than at the tables.
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April 17th, 2016 at 9:40:50 PM permalink
I will go with you next time Konbu....was introduced to Pinball HoF last time I was in town...they didn't have Space Invaders which is one I am dying to play again.
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April 17th, 2016 at 11:23:25 PM permalink
I may stop at Pinball HoF Monday.

I heard a rumor that the guy running it is looking for a successor so he can retire - and that if that doesn't happen soon, he may just close and sell off the machines.
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