AlanMendelson
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December 25th, 2013 at 3:11:22 AM permalink
AxelWolf I suggest you send him a message. I can't speak for him.

I have never seen him play, though he did watch me play for a few minutes at Caesars before we shot his interviews there. When I was playing he gave me what I considered to be normal, and solid advice on a couple of hands where a decision had to be made about how to play it. But as we know, most video poker hands are routine, simple plays.

So when Rob says that he uses "special plays" only 5% of the time, that makes sense. But in reality a "special play" might be presented to you in maybe 1% of the hands you play.

In the last several years I made only TWO of Rob's special plays. I was playing 8/5 Aces and Faces (like Bonus poker) and dealt a full house with three aces. Rob says hold the aces and go for quads. Conventional strategy says hold the full house. Well, I was losing badly, so I needed quad aces to bail me out and I drew the fourth ace for a $2,000 win. The second time is when I was playing Triple Double Bonus and I was dealt three aces with a kicker. I only held the aces -- and I did not draw the fourth ace, so it wouldnt have mattered if I held or dropped the kicker.

Many times Ive been dealt a full house with three aces in Bonus or Aces and Faces and I always hold the full house, which is what conventional strategy says to do. The time I didn't was only because I was deep in the red.
Johnzimbo
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December 25th, 2013 at 6:23:37 AM permalink
Rob Singer is Jerry Logan. Nuff said
Ibeatyouraces
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December 25th, 2013 at 7:35:26 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
AxelWolf
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December 25th, 2013 at 9:53:55 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

He obviously seems to think that these big hands are "due."

I was playing the usual 9/6 JoB the other day and went over 2300 hands before hitting any 4oak. Pretty long stretch.

That's what happens...... when you keep missing pairs.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
mickeycrimm
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December 25th, 2013 at 11:12:50 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

This story is Singer all over. But also highlights the problem with his special plays. Some times they increase the chance of a hit at the cost of expected value. Sometimes they decrease the chance of a win, hoping for a bigger result. There's no consistency in his methods, and he cannot (or will not) discuss the mathematics behind them that he claims he has processed and done.



Out of multi-thousands of posts in the gambling forums, Rob has never once addressed the mathematics of gambling....because he doesn't know anything about the mathematics of gambling.
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm
mickeycrimm
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December 25th, 2013 at 11:37:02 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

In the last several years I made only TWO of Rob's special plays. I was playing 8/5 Aces and Faces (like Bonus poker) and dealt a full house with three aces. Rob says hold the aces and go for quads. Conventional strategy says hold the full house. Well, I was losing badly, so I needed quad aces to bail me out and I drew the fourth ace for a $2,000 win.



Alan, by the same token, when you are dealt Aces Full in 10/7 DB the optimal play is to hold just the Three Aces. It's a painful break to make but I did it everytime. And I've made the Four Aces a few times. But others have complained to me of never making Four Aces on that draw.
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm
mickeycrimm
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December 25th, 2013 at 11:52:02 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Who and what challenges have been made? Has he ever accepted any? Will he take any? Will he show anyone his system?



Axel, I observed many times how Rob's proposition bets with others go down. That is, they never go down. When Rob started the "fifth card flip" controversy I got an email from a friend. He wanted to know if I could arrange a bet/challenge between his party and Rob over this "fifth card flip" stuff. I asked him who his party was. He wouldn't tell me other than "one of them is a casino owner in North Las Vegas." I let Rob know that some heavy hitters were looking for some action with him. But I advised my friend what was going to happen. I had seen it to many times before. I told him:

"Rob will start throwing down terms and conditions. If you accept those terms and conditions he will add more terms and conditions. If you accept the new terms and conditions he will then add more terms and conditions. He will keep doing this until you tire of trying to make the bet. Then he will claim victory."

And that's exactly what Rob tried to do with these guys.
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thecesspit
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December 25th, 2013 at 2:37:30 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

Out of multi-thousands of posts in the gambling forums, Rob has never once addressed the mathematics of gambling....because he doesn't know anything about the mathematics of gambling.



He alludes to it, all the time. But never showed the goods. I was invited to meet him once, and while all my interactions with him were cordial, I try to avoid interacting with people who are toxic to others. It'd have been interesting in some level to see if there was any steak to his sizzle, but only interesting like reading the spoilers to a bad movie on IMDB.

Logan also invited me to go for a beer in Vancouver once, but it was not worth the trip to me. I'm still not 100% convinced Logan=Singer (for a couple of small reasons) I was tempted to find out, but well, the Logan persona was a liar and a blowhard, so why go more than two blocks?
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
AxiomOfChoice
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December 25th, 2013 at 4:23:34 PM permalink
He did meet with the Wizard for an experiment.... http://wizardofodds.com/blog/chat-with-rob-singer/
Perdition
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December 27th, 2013 at 9:29:20 PM permalink
There have been a ton of spam bots during the early morning hours on ABB. Now the site has been down for pretty much the day. Hopefully they are working to combat the spam issue and didn't get hit with a DDOS or anything.

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