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FatGeezus
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September 29th, 2017 at 9:35:23 AM permalink
I was playing PGP for fun (practicing) on the Wizards Site.

I was dealt JOKER, Ac, 9s, 9h, 6h, 3h, 2h.

How would you have split this hand?
Melco
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September 29th, 2017 at 9:38:44 AM permalink
Your poll has an error in it. The one option has two 9h and no 9s.

I believe the correct play would be the flush in the high hand and A/9 in the low. A/9 isn't too terribly bad relative to 9/9, but flush is a great improvement over A/A in the high hand.
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September 29th, 2017 at 9:41:26 AM permalink
Quote: Melco

Your poll has an error in it. The one option has two 9h and no 9s.

I believe the correct play would be the flush in the high hand and A/9 in the low. A/9 isn't too terribly bad relative to 9/9, but flush is a great improvement over A/A in the high hand.



I tried to correct the poll but I couldn't. You are correct, the 9h should be 9s
Last edited by: FatGeezus on Sep 29, 2017
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September 29th, 2017 at 10:01:45 AM permalink
Quote: Melco



I believe the correct play would be the flush in the high hand and A/9 in the low. A/9 isn't too terribly bad relative to 9/9, but flush is a great improvement over A/A in the high hand.



Aces in high hand Nines in low hand. Ace-nine is an extremely weak ace, not much better than a king-queen. Nines are far superior to an ace-nine. A flush is superior to aces, of course, but not as much as the superiority of nines over the ace-nine. My guess......
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September 29th, 2017 at 10:23:24 AM permalink
The house at my Casino would play the Aces as high and the 9's as low. I would play it the same way as a player and still collect the flush bonus worst case.


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September 29th, 2017 at 10:51:18 AM permalink
Definitely play with the pair of nines in the low. WoO calculator .
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FatGeezus
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September 29th, 2017 at 10:51:27 AM permalink
Sorry I screwed the poll up.
I was dealt , JOKER, Ac, 9s, 9h, 6h, 3h, 2h, .

I would have played it this way. JOKER, 9h, 6h, 3h, 2h, (Flush) with Ac, 9s on top.

I hit 'House way' and they would have played JOKER, Ac, 6h, 3h, 2h with 9h, 9s on top.

The dealer had JOKER, 10h, 9d, 8d, 7c (straight) with Kd, 7s on top.

The 'House way' resulted in a PUSH.

My way would have won.
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September 29th, 2017 at 11:09:51 AM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

Sorry I screwed the poll up.
I was dealt , JOKER, Ac, 9s, 9h, 6h, 3h, 2h, .

I would have played it this way. JOKER, 9h, 6h, 3h, 2h, (Flush) with Ac, 9s on top.

I hit 'House way' and they would have played JOKER, Ac, 6h, 3h, 2h with 9h, 9s on top.

The dealer had JOKER, 10h, 9d, 8d, 7c (straight) with Kd, 7s on top.

The 'House way' resulted in a PUSH.

My way would have won.



It's gonna happen. I was playing UTH and folded 6s 3c; the flop was 3-3-3. Oh well. If we could see through the cards it would be easy.
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September 29th, 2017 at 11:12:34 AM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

The 'House way' resulted in a PUSH.

My way would have won.



Yes, playing the flush is more likely to win if the dealer gets a straight or a flush.

The house way is more likely to win if the dealer gets two pair, or a pair with an ace kicker.

Which do you think is more likely?
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September 29th, 2017 at 1:25:15 PM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

The 'House way' resulted in a PUSH.

My way would have won.

Don't be results oriented.
Shit happens.
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September 29th, 2017 at 1:35:43 PM permalink
If the dealer is cool with it, find the rest of the aces at the table. If I can find the other three aces, I think I go A9 in the low hand.

Otherwise, yeah, I guess I would begrudgingly go pair/pair. I understand and acknowledge the numbers, but getting beat by a 2pair+ would piss me off so much.
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September 29th, 2017 at 10:27:45 PM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

Sorry I screwed the poll up.
I was dealt , JOKER, Ac, 9s, 9h, 6h, 3h, 2h, .

I would have played it this way. JOKER, 9h, 6h, 3h, 2h, (Flush) with Ac, 9s on top.

I hit 'House way' and they would have played JOKER, Ac, 6h, 3h, 2h with 9h, 9s on top.

The dealer had JOKER, 10h, 9d, 8d, 7c (straight) with Kd, 7s on top.

The 'House way' resulted in a PUSH.

My way would have won.



Two jokers? I don't think so.
RS
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September 29th, 2017 at 10:42:29 PM permalink
I figured 9,9 on top was the obvious answer or this to be a trick somehow.

I've played PGP only a few times in my life and it's usually me asking the dealer how to play my hand every round.
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September 30th, 2017 at 1:01:47 AM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

Sorry I screwed the poll up.
I was dealt , JOKER, Ac, 9s, 9h, 6h, 3h, 2h, .

I would have played it this way. JOKER, 9h, 6h, 3h, 2h, (Flush) with Ac, 9s on top.

I hit 'House way' and they would have played JOKER, Ac, 6h, 3h, 2h with 9h, 9s on top.

The dealer had JOKER, 10h, 9d, 8d, 7c (straight) with Kd, 7s on top.

The 'House way' resulted in a PUSH.

My way would have won.



Either you're remembering a hand incorrectly, or there's something wrong with the WoO demo. There is only 1 joker in the deck, but you're saying you and the dealer each had one.

It's still much better to split your pairs. The 9s are too powerful up top to play the flush.
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September 30th, 2017 at 3:39:23 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

It's gonna happen. I was playing UTH and folded 6s 3c; the flop was 3-3-3. Oh well. If we could see through the cards it would be easy.



You folded before the flop in UTH? You mean regular Hold Em, right?
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September 30th, 2017 at 3:44:01 AM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

You folded before the flop in UTH? You mean regular Hold Em, right?



I haven't played much poker (like regular Texas hold'em and such) in my life, but I've seen people folding their cards when they could just as easily have checked. Like....what the hell are you doing, do you also stand on A4 in BJ or 3x the flop on UTH or 2x in MS????
FatGeezus
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September 30th, 2017 at 8:20:39 AM permalink
Quote: PlayYourCardsRight

Two jokers? I don't think so.


Another screw up by me.

The dealer had JACK, 10h, 9d, 8d, 7c and Kd, 7s.
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September 30th, 2017 at 8:23:16 AM permalink
The stronger the 2 card hand, the better. Spilt the pair.
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