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March 14th, 2012 at 9:49:45 PM permalink
I'm proud to announce some new Vegas maps by our own DJTeddy Bear. As the one who created the "simple maps" on Wizard of Macau, I know that even a bad map is not easy. DJTB's are about 100x better than mine.

This is definitely something I've wanted to cross of my list since I started the site. Thanks Dave for a job well done.
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March 14th, 2012 at 10:02:29 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm proud to announce some new Vegas maps by our own DJTeddy Bear. As the one who created the "simple maps" on Wizard of Macau, I know that even a bad map is not easy. DJTB's are about 100x better than mine.

This is definitely something I've wanted to cross of my list since I started the site. Thanks Dave for a job well done.



Good maps. Change the name of Fitzgeralds, and I think you've got it.




Casinos that made over $72 million in gaming in Fiscal Year 2011
Las Vegas Strip Boulder Strip & Henderson
MGM Resorts Inc 23 BOULDER STATION HOTEL & CASINO
1 ARIA RESORT & CASINO 24 GREEN VALLEY RANCH STATION CASINO
2 BELLAGIO 25 M RESORT SPA AND CASINO, THE
3 EXCALIBUR HOTEL AND CASINO 26 SAM'S TOWN HOTEL & GAMBLING HALL
4 MANDALAY BAY RESORT & CASINO 27 SUNSET STATION HOTEL & CASINO
5 MGM GRAND HOTEL/CASINO Outside City Limits of Las Vegas
6 MIRAGE, THE 28 ORLEANS HOTEL AND CASINO
7 MONTE CARLO RESORT & CASINO 29 RED ROCK CASINO RESORT SPA
8 NEW YORK - NEW YORK HOTEL & CASINO 30 SOUTH POINT HOTEL AND CASINO
9 LUXOR HOTEL AND CASINO Inside City Limits of Las Vegas
Ceasars Inc -> PALACE STATION HOTEL (in City of LV)
10 CAESARS PALACE 31 GOLDEN NUGGET (in City of LV)
11 BALLY'S LAS VEGAS 32 SUNCOAST HOTEL (in City of LV)
12 FLAMINGO LAS VEGAS/O'SHEAS 33 SANTA FE STATION HOTEL (in City of LV)
13 HARRAH'S CASINO HOTEL LAS VEGAS Laughlin
14 PARIS LAS VEGAS 34 HARRAH'S CASINO HOTEL LAUGHLIN
15 PLANET HOLLYWOOD RESORT & CASINO 35 RIVERSIDE RESORT & CASINO
16 RIO SUITE HOTEL & CASINO Reno
Other Corporations 36 ATLANTIS CASINO RESORT
17 GOLD COAST HOTEL AND CASINO 37 PEPPERMILL HOTEL & CASINO
18 PALMS CASINO RESORT South Shore Lake Tahoe
19 TREASURE ISLAND 38 HARVEYS RESORT HOTEL/CASINO
20 VENETIAN CASINO RESORT
21 WYNN LAS VEGAS
22 PALACE STATION HOTEL (in City of LV) <-
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March 14th, 2012 at 10:03:32 PM permalink
Yes, Great job DJTB!

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March 14th, 2012 at 11:30:31 PM permalink
Ah geez, you guys left off O'Sheas! Clearly the finest gambling establishment on the strip...
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March 15th, 2012 at 12:06:56 AM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Ah geez, you guys left off O'Sheas! Clearly the finest gambling establishment on the strip...

I am sure it was planned.
In a few months that casino will no longer exist thanks to Project Linq.

If DJTB adds it before the wrecking ball takes it down, his map with O'Sheas should become a collectors item.
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March 15th, 2012 at 12:18:01 AM permalink
Quote: 7craps

Yes, Great job DJTB!



Agree. That took some work. Remarkable!
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March 15th, 2012 at 4:21:54 AM permalink
An update is already in order since the Fitz will become the D on Tuesday.
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March 15th, 2012 at 5:50:12 AM permalink
You missed Montelago Village out at Lake Las Vegas.
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March 15th, 2012 at 6:17:32 AM permalink
Thanks for the kind words. It was a lot of work, but also a lot of fun.


I think Paco's $72mil benchmark is too limiting. He lists only 38 casinos, and that's from all of Nevada. My Strip map alone shows 40 casinos, and people are already moaning about one that's missing.

Sorry, but O'Shea's didn't make the cut. I interestingly enough, nobody mentioned that Slots-O-Fun is missing. And I'd think it would be the reverse, since O'Shea's recently announced that it's closing, there's no room to jam it's logo in there, and there's plenty of room for the Slots-O-Fun logo.

The reality is, neither of these have a hotel. I was using the WoV Hotel List as my guide. Anthing listed, that also has table games, was included. That's why both are missing.

Ellis Island isn't listed either, but I added it because I know it has a hotel attached - albeit, under a different name, and possibly different ownership. Mike didn't object, so it stayed.

I wanted to put Joker's Wild on the Valley map, but Mike nixed that idea.


I know a revision is already needed for the Fitz name change. That'll happen once I get a logo for "the D".

For the record, I got most of the logos from a screen shot of each casino's website, then cleaned up to remove the most of the background. Hardest of all was to find logos for the three closed casinos. They're included because they are iconic and still standing.
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March 15th, 2012 at 6:29:06 AM permalink
Quote: thlf

You missed Montelago Village out at Lake Las Vegas.

It's not on the WoV Hotel list. And besides, didn't the casino there close?
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March 15th, 2012 at 7:22:22 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

It's not on the WoV Hotel list. And besides, didn't the casino there close?



It closed several years ago and re opened about 1 year ago.
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March 15th, 2012 at 7:32:01 AM permalink
Why no Jokers' Wild? Binions doesn't have a(n) (open) hotel...
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March 15th, 2012 at 7:32:02 AM permalink
That is a good catch on the Fitz/D.

About Lake Las Vegas, although what was formerly the Hyatt, now the Ravella, has reopened, I think neither that nor Lowes has a casino. At one time both of them did.

The map used to have pretty much everything on my casino list but I asked Dave to include only the places that had both a casino with table games AND a hotel. So that will exclude both Lake Las Vegas properties.
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March 15th, 2012 at 7:40:11 AM permalink
For the record, I was mostly joking about O'Sheas. Especially since it's closing this month, I see no need to include it.
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March 15th, 2012 at 8:53:31 AM permalink
Great job, Dave.
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March 15th, 2012 at 8:58:31 AM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

For the record, I was mostly joking about O'Sheas. Especially since it's closing this month, I see no need to include it.



Nostalgia?

Granted it would have been cramped and looked awful. But I noticed some extinct properties illustrated, albeit with an "X" over them. Hmm. Come to think of it, a logo, and the x-out and all thsoe casinos already crowding the center Strip... Not even nostalgia justifies that.

BTW, I assume the extinct properties, such as Sahara, are listed because while they're closed they're alos still standing. That seems like a sound criteria. And in some cases there's talk of bringing them back from the debt, I mean the dead.
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March 15th, 2012 at 9:08:31 AM permalink
You need to do a Strip map that shows what casinos
were there in 1980 and what replaced them. I've been
going since 1975 and damned if I can remember what
was where. In contrast, Downtown hasn't changed at all.

You could should show the logo of the 1980 casino
and in parenthesis show what replaced it. People love
maps like that, at least I do.
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March 15th, 2012 at 9:09:53 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

About Lake Las Vegas, although what was formerly the Hyatt, now the Ravella, has reopened, I think neither that nor Lowes has a casino. At one time both of them did.


Maybe my memory isn't completely clear, but I think that Lowes was originally a Hyatt, and that is were I picked up my Hyatt Regency Casino chip in March 2006, just days before the casino closed and the hotel was sold. Lowes converted the casino area into a ballroom or show room for conventions. Was Ravella also a Hyatt?

According to this web site, the Casino Monte Lago is again open at the Ravella, with slots and "electronic table games." That probably doesn't meet your criteria.
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March 15th, 2012 at 9:15:09 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

Maybe my memory isn't completely clear, but I think that Lowes was originally a Hyatt,..



You could easily be right about that.

Quote: Doc

According to this web site, the Casino Monte Lago is again open at the Ravella, with slots and "electronic table games." That probably doesn't meet your criteria.



Slots only don't count. It must have at least one table game with a live dealer. Those units with a dealer on a video screen do not count.
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March 15th, 2012 at 9:22:14 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You need to do a Strip map that shows what casinos
were there in 1980 and what replaced them. I've been
going since 1975 and damned if I can remember what
was where. In contrast, Downtown hasn't changed at all.

You could should show the logo of the 1980 casino
and in parenthesis show what replaced it. People love
maps like that, at least I do.




I was just looking at this historic map, which I think is fairly complete if slightly dated...
Historic Map Las Vegas Strip
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March 15th, 2012 at 9:33:21 AM permalink
They look great DJ! In addition to the Fitz change, the Lady Luck has also been rebranded as the, "Downtown Grand". According to the Las Vegas Sun, they plan to open in April 2013.
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March 15th, 2012 at 9:46:01 AM permalink
Great map! My only quibble is that some of the casino logos are low resolution, but that's not your fault. Superb job.
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March 15th, 2012 at 9:53:32 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You need to do a Strip map that shows what casinos
were there in 1980 and what replaced them. I've been
going since 1975 and damned if I can remember what
was where. In contrast, Downtown hasn't changed at all.

Excuse me? Downtown sure has changed, just not on the same scale as the Strip.

Here's what you're looking for: Las Vegas Sun - Interactive / Historical Casino Map


Quote: EvenBob

You could should show the logo of the 1980 casino
and in parenthesis show what replaced it. People love
maps like that, at least I do.

It was hard enough finding the logos for the three closed casinos that were included - and those were RECENT closings.


On the other hand, I DO plan on attempting to find higher resolution logos for a lot of the casinos. But that's much more of a back-burner type of project.
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March 15th, 2012 at 10:16:48 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Excuse me? Downtown sure has changed, just not on the same scale as the Strip.



I meant the major hotels that were there in 1980
are still there on Fremont.
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March 15th, 2012 at 10:19:30 AM permalink
Great job!
I would suggest to introduce a little more proportion into the map,
particularly the strip one.
Such as enlarge "Palazzo+ Venetian" so that they occupy more space than
Bills or Casino Royal
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March 15th, 2012 at 10:37:25 AM permalink
As long as it has Ellis Island, it's all good with me. Great job, as always!
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March 15th, 2012 at 10:43:31 AM permalink
Now that you mention it, if we go by my own rules, the Ellis Island should be removed, for not having a hotel. However, it is one of the best value casinos in Vegas. Any full time video poker player I'm sure does plenty of time there. It is also right next to a large motel, I think a Super 8, and may even be physically connected to it. I'm inclined to let it stay, but am not sure what I'll say if somebody writes to me suggesting I remove it.
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March 15th, 2012 at 10:45:02 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm inclined to let it stay, but am not sure what I'll say if somebody writes to me suggesting I remove it.



Look up how to say in latin "my maps, my rules, my exceptions" :) I know "my" is "mea."
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March 15th, 2012 at 11:12:51 AM permalink
Quote: pokerface

Great job!
I would suggest to introduce a little more proportion into the map,
particularly the strip one.
Such as enlarge "Palazzo+ Venetian" so that they occupy more space than
Bills or Casino Royal

It was more of a legibility issue than a relationship of logo size to building size.


Quote: Wizard

... I' inclined to let Ellis Island stay, but am not sure what I'll say if somebody writes to me suggesting I remove it.

Tell 'em the truth: You and your artist discussed it, as well as Joker's wild. The artist wanted both, you wanted neither, and you compromised.

For the record, I added Ellis Island in the first draft, and DID ask if it should really be there. But in the same email, I asked about Joker's wild. This, despite the fact that the first draft of the Strip map was ready TWO WEEKS before the first draft of the Valley map.

And I DID have Joker's Wild in the first draft Valley map, but I'm a "choose your battles" kind of guy, so when Mike asked for it to be removed, I did so, and kept my crying to this little corner of the virtual universe....
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March 15th, 2012 at 11:28:26 AM permalink
Perhaps someone should let the management at Joker's know that they were left off but could be added back in for a small consideration...
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March 15th, 2012 at 11:30:45 AM permalink
Where is Ellis Island? I mean, on DJ's maps.
I didn't see it.

Edit: Sorry, I see it now.
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March 15th, 2012 at 3:08:05 PM permalink
As I'm posting this, 186 members have visited the forum today. DJ's maps are quite the hit!
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March 16th, 2012 at 12:31:07 PM permalink
So many casinos...so little time...

(Seriously, the non-strip/downtown map listed a few that were not "on my radar", and it turns out (I think) all but two of them are on a bus line somewhere. Now, to figure out a way to get to Green Valley, Red Rock, Rampart, Aliante, Cannery, M (one of the ones the buses don't reach), and Railroad Pass in 3 days...)
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March 16th, 2012 at 12:57:46 PM permalink
Not to derail this thread, but if you're really trying to get to all those places, um, rent a car.

If your plans are to stay confined to the strip and downtown, with maybe one diversion, then, sure, go by bus.

But car rentals are cheap enough. The key advice for a tourist driving in Vegas is to NOT drive on the Strip. Too many distractions. Plus, it's usually got too much traffic anyway.


Do what I did: Pre-program your GPS with the BACK entrance to the big casinos. Bring the GPS with you. And rent a car.


Also, although the downtown map is nearly complete, there are many streets missing from the Strip map. Check a street map or GPS before attempting to navigate.
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March 16th, 2012 at 1:10:35 PM permalink
I have enlarged every area of that map. Where the hell is the EMERALD PALACE ? ? ?
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March 16th, 2012 at 1:39:42 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

I have enlarged every area of that map. Where the hell is the EMERALD PALACE ? ? ?

I give up. Where is it?

For the record, Emerald Island is in Henderson. But as I searched their website, I found no evidence of a hotel or table games - the two criteria needed to qualify for inclusion. Also, their website doesn't even provide an address or cross street. It just says that they're in "Downtown Henderson."

So I don't know where Emerald Island is either!
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March 16th, 2012 at 1:49:15 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I give up. Where is it?

For the record, Emerald Island is in Henderson. But as I searched their website, I found no evidence of a hotel or table games - the two criteria needed to qualify for inclusion. Also, their website doesn't even provide an address or cross street. It just says that they're in "Downtown Henderson."

So I don't know where Emerald Island is either!



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March 16th, 2012 at 2:56:15 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I give up. Where is it?For the record, Emerald Island is in Henderson.



Its 100% penny slots and no table gaames or hotel.
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March 19th, 2012 at 4:57:25 AM permalink
I missed this comment the first time around...
Quote: Nareed

BTW, I assume the extinct properties, such as Sahara, are listed because while they're closed they're alos still standing. That seems like a sound criteria.

Not only that, but because they are iconic, and in an otherwise empty part of the map.

O'Shea's got cut, not because they are closing, but because they don't have a hotel.



Quote: DJTeddyBear

I DO plan on attempting to find higher resolution logos for a lot of the casinos. But that's much more of a back-burner type of project.

Well, it went from the back burner to the front burner rather quickly.

New maps, with better looking / high-res logos, were uploaded yesterday.

For the record, when the Wiz made a comment about Aria's name in the Chip of the Day thread, it prompted me to look it up on Wikipedia. While there, I discovered that the Aria page has a nice looking logo. But more than that, when I clicked on the logo, I got to a page ABOUT the logo, which included the option to download several resolutions.

As a result, I checked for a Wikipedia page for every casino. About 85% had logos on the page, with almost all of them offering multiple high-res versions.

I also took this opportunity to change the color of the highways so it's the same in all 3 maps, as well as to add a gauge for the scale of each map.
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March 20th, 2012 at 1:28:59 AM permalink
My suggestion is that you combine these maps with your table game and slot surveys so that visitors can easily view which areas have the best gambling value when planning a trip.
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March 20th, 2012 at 1:46:27 AM permalink
Too much "washed out pastel" stuff.
The Strat's logo isn't even recognized as a tower... only the top of the tower.
McCarren??? Its AIRPORT.
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March 20th, 2012 at 4:39:38 AM permalink
Flea -


"Washed out pastel" ? Are you looking at the enlarged maps? (Although, quite frankly, I disagree even with the small versions.)


Strat logo: Funny you should mention that one. I actually did an extra search to find it, rather than use their current logo:




McCarran: That was my decision for a variety of reasons: It's definitely an important point of reference for tourists, and it's in an otherwise big empty area. "Big empty area" also applies to UNLV and Fashion Show which I did not think to include until Mike mentioned them.
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March 20th, 2012 at 5:59:40 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I think Paco's $72mil benchmark is too limiting. He lists only 38 casinos, and that's from all of Nevada. My Strip map alone shows 40 casinos, and people are already moaning about one that's missing.



I didn't mean the list of over $72 million to be exclusive. At a minimum you should have these casinos.

The full list for the strip is 41 licenses that the Nevada Gaming Commission considers to be Vegas Strip licenses (over $1 million) is below. Only 22 of these licenses make over $72 million: See Fiscal Year 2011, Vegas Strip begins pg. 71

Mardi Gras, Clarion and that little place on Flamingo that won't lose their license for decades are not on the list because they didn't make over $1 million.

The list includes the Airport Concession, and the Palms and Cosmopolitan Sports Book because they operate under a separate license from the casino.

The fiscal year 2011 goes from 30 June 2010 - 1 July 2011 so it includes casinos operating at any point during this time (like Sahara).

1 30814-01 ARIA RESORT & CASINO
2 01891-02 BALLY'S LAS VEGAS
3 00655-05 BELLAGIO
4 03005-04 BILL'S GAMBLIN' HALL & SALOON
5 01297-02 CAESARS PALACE
6 03619-04 CASINO ROYALE
7 00289-04 CASUARINA CASINO LAS VEGAS
8 02037-03 CIRCUS CIRCUS HOTEL
9 30955-01 COSMOPOLITAN OF LAS VEGAS
10 02077-03 ELLIS ISLAND CASINO
11 14727-01 EXCALIBUR HOTEL AND CASINO
12 00008-04 FLAMINGO LAS VEGAS/O'SHEAS
13 08524-01 GOLD COAST HOTEL AND CASINO
14 17586-04 HARD ROCK HOTEL & CASINO
15 02689-01 HARRAH'S CASINO HOTEL LAS VEGAS
16 02807-10 HOOTERS CASINO HOTEL
17 01177-04 IMPERIAL PALACE HOTEL
18 01998-04 LAS VEGAS HILTON
19 17041-01 LUXOR HOTEL AND CASINO
20 00022-03 MANDALAY BAY RESORT & CASINO
21 02982-07 MGM GRAND HOTEL/CASINO
22 11018-01 MIRAGE, THE
23 20682-01 MONTE CARLO RESORT & CASINO
24 19590-01 NEW YORK - NEW YORK HOTEL & CASINO
25 03149-02 PALACE STATION HOTEL (in City of LV)
26 26541-01 PALMS CASINO RESORT
27 30377-01 PARIS LAS VEGAS
28 01713-07 PLANET HOLLYWOOD RESORT & CASINO
29 13154-01 RIO SUITE HOTEL & CASINO
30 00015-04 RIVIERA HOTEL & CASINO
31 00944-05 SAHARA HOTEL & CASINO
32 04157-05 TERRIBLE'S HOTEL AND CASINO
33 16937-01 TREASURE ISLAND
34 00360-05 TROPICANA RESORT AND CASINO
35 12673-02 TUSCANY LAS VEGAS
36 01957-05 VENETIAN CASINO RESORT
37 03016-04 WILD WILD WEST GAMBLING HALL
38 01888-07 WYNN LAS VEGAS
39 30835-01 PALMS CASINO - SPORTS POOL
40 31204-01 COSMOPOLITAN OF LV RACE & SPORT
41 00793-03 AIRPORT SLOT CONCESSION
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March 28th, 2012 at 10:01:50 PM permalink
I don't know how I missed this thread until now. Wow, is this good work, DJ. Just awesome.

Ellis Island and the Super 8 share a covered walkway, but they're not quite physically connected.

Do all of the downtown properties have hotels? As someone else mentioned, Binion's is listed but I don't think they have a hotel. I'm not suggesting that Binion's should be removed - it meets the iconic requirement - just that it's also an exception.

Wild West has table games and is a part of the Days Inn on Polaris and Tropicana, near the Orleans. I think it's slightly too far west to fit on the strip blowup, but it's also not on the valley map.
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March 28th, 2012 at 11:37:48 PM permalink
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Wild West has table games and is a part of the Days Inn on Polaris and Tropicana, near the Orleans. I think it's slightly too far west to fit on the strip blowup, but it's also not on the valley map.



Wild Wild West is officially part of the NGC 41 strip hotels. Surprisingly enough, New Orleans is not considered part of the strip (see my previous post)


The 16 downtown casinos (over $1 million) are:

1 00370-02 BINION'S GAMBLING HALL & HOTEL - HOTEL CLOSED ECONOMICS
2 02912-01 CALIFORNIA HOTEL AND CASINO
3 00261-03 EL CORTEZ
4 03676-08 FITZGERALDS LAS VEGAS HOTEL AND CASINO
5 01423-01 FOUR QUEENS HOTEL & CASINO
6 00694-03 FREMONT HOTEL AND CASINO
7 00336-03 GOLDEN NUGGET
8 00371-03 LAS VEGAS CLUB HOTEL & CASINO
9 03461-04 MAIN STREET STATION HOTEL, CASINO
10 03836-03 STRATOSPHERE TOWER - Considered Downtown by the NGC

11 01696-03 PLAZA HOTEL AND CASINO
12 03317-07 GOLD SPIKE HOTEL AND CASINO
13 00329-01 GOLDEN GATE HOTEL & CASINO
14 02424-02 WESTERN HOTEL AND CASINO - HOTEL CLOSED BY HEALTH DEPARTMENT Casino just closed as well
15 02485-03 LA BAYOU CASINO - NO HOTEL/ NOT ON MAP
16 00973-04 MERMAIDS CASINO - NO HOTEL/ NOT ON MAP

Lady Luck been closed since 2006
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March 29th, 2012 at 5:36:23 AM permalink
Thanks again for the kind words. It was a lot of work, but aslo a lot of fun.


Quote: rdw4potus

Ellis Island and the Super 8 share a covered walkway, but they're not quite physically connected.

Do all of the downtown properties have hotels? As someone else mentioned, Binion's is listed but I don't think they have a hotel. I'm not suggesting that Binion's should be removed - it meets the iconic requirement - just that it's also an exception.

Wild West has table games and is a part of the Days Inn on Polaris and Tropicana, near the Orleans. I think it's slightly too far west to fit on the strip blowup, but it's also not on the valley map.

Ellis Island was added at my own suggestion. One reason is, prior to my second Vegas trip, my mother, who had only been to Vegas once, suggested I stop there. I have since seen that it has that attached hotel, and figured that it probably qualifies. The Wiz didn't object.

On the flip side, I wanted to include Joker's Wild on the Valley map, but the Wiz nixed that one.

Binions closed their hotel? I COMPLETELY forgot that point, but agree that it's iconic and deserves to stay.

As I mentioned previously, I used the WoV Hotel list as a starting point, including only those hotels that have table games.

It was not entirely my decision to put the Stratosphere on the Strip map, although I would have even without prompting. It had been on the Wiz' prior Strip maps, and for good reason. Ask any tourist, and they'll say it's on the Strip. Only those "in the know" realize that it's the only strip casino that's actually in Las Vegas.

Once the decision to include the Strat was made, the East-West boundries of my map area become obvious. As a result, Palace Station, Orleans and Terribles are included on hte Strip map only because the lie within the rectangle I had drawn. They would have been on the Valley map if the Strip map rectangle was narrower.

Wild West was excluded because it's not on the WoV Hotel list, and, unlike Ellis Island, I have no knowledge of it, and the Wiz didn't suggest it. Please keep in mind that I'm not from Vegas. I've spent a total of about 29 days in Clark County, and rented a car only once - for less than 48 hours.

(Wiz, ya reading this? Should I add Wild West? Any others?)

It was the Wiz that suggested I add Fashion Show, which I momentarily objected to, until I realized that it's iconic, a tourist destination, on the Strip, and, most important, in an otherwise empty space on the map. The Wiz also suggested I add UNLV, which prompted me to also add the convention center and monorail route.
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March 29th, 2012 at 6:17:59 AM permalink
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(Wiz, ya reading this? Should I add Wild West? Any others?)



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March 29th, 2012 at 8:45:21 AM permalink
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Binions closed their hotel? I COMPLETELY forgot that point, but agree that it's iconic and deserves to stay.



The hotel is clsoed, but the casino is still operating as far as I know (does anyone know if it shares a player card with 4 Queens? BTW)

But you'll have to make a few changes soon. The Fitz will be renamed The D, and I understand the Lady Luck will re-open as the Downtown Grand sometime this millenium.
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March 29th, 2012 at 8:56:43 AM permalink
FWIW, the Lucky Club also has both tables and a hotel.
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