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coachbelly
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April 5th, 2021 at 4:57:28 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

As I've said about all challenges involving MDawg
..... IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN!



Thank you for your explanation.

The good news for Expectedvalue is that the challenge
you explained above hasn't been accepted.

The bad news is that the Wizard and MDawg already accepted
a challenge that's much worse for Expectedvalue.

I also don't believe the challenge will happen,
Expectedvalue will withdraw.
coachbelly
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April 5th, 2021 at 5:00:19 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Doesn't MDawg claim a hit and run where he leaves if up?

What is to stop MDawg from doing one single banker wager for $1000, win, say, he won, he is leaving as per usual and please hand me $2000?



Ask Expectedvalue, he made the terms.
darkoz
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April 5th, 2021 at 5:00:44 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

Thank you for your explanation.

The good news for Expectedvalue is that the challenge
you explained above hasn't been accepted.

The bad news is that the Wizard and MDawg already accepted
a challenge that's much worse for Expectedvalue.

I also don't believe the challenge will happen,
Expectedvalue will withdraw.



The terms of the challenge are now in question due to Expected Value adding terms.

I actually don't disagree with Expected Value adding those terms since as you pointed out the terms agreed upon by Wizard and MDawg put EV at a disadvantage.

It's pretty clear once two parties can't agree on terms the challenge isn't happening.

Coach and I agree on something for a change
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
OnceDear
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April 5th, 2021 at 5:01:38 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Doesn't MDawg claim a hit and run where he leaves if up?

What is to stop MDawg from doing one single banker wager for $1000, win, say, he won, he is leaving as per usual and please hand me $2000?

Nothing.
Indeed he could marty from min bet, as far as I can see and quit when 1 unit ahead
But we have ambiguity in the two versions of the offer and ambiguity within at least one of the offers.
Beware. The earth is NOT flat. Hit and run is not a winning strategy: Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy: Progressives are not a winning strategy: Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free.
coachbelly
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April 5th, 2021 at 5:06:00 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

The terms of the challenge are now in question due to Expected Value adding terms.



Who is questioning the terms?

Both parties and the Wizard agreed to the terms,
and then they were changed by one of the parties.

There's no question about that.
rainman
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Thanks for this post from:
OnceDearFTB
April 5th, 2021 at 5:06:51 PM permalink
I am one of the lowest hanging pieces of IQ fruit on the WOV tree,
and watching you fellas fall for this makes me feel good about
myself. :)
kewlj
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April 5th, 2021 at 5:07:12 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Nothing.
Indeed he could marty from min bet, as far as I can see and quit when 1 unit ahead
But we have ambiguity in the two versions of the offer and ambiguity within at least one of the offers.



Yes, but that is part of the whole thing about Wizard witnessing play. While it would be within the challenge rules, Wizard would immediately recognize that and report on it. And the report should include that is not a winning strategy. Because that is really what everyone is looking to solve.
coachbelly
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April 5th, 2021 at 5:07:31 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Coach and I agree on something for a change



Congratulations...you are wising up.
darkoz
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April 5th, 2021 at 5:09:26 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

Who is questioning the terms?

Both parties and the Wizard agreed to the terms,
and then they were changed by one of the parties.

There's no question about that.



Three contradictions in one post with just three sentences might be a record
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Expectedvalue
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April 5th, 2021 at 5:14:50 PM permalink
Quote: Expectedvalue

Wizard has agreed. So I will post this
Iím willing to send wizard 2500 upfront upon agreement of the challenge. Now is the time to put up or shut up.
Wizard will receive 500 for his time
Mdawg will receive 2000 provided he allows wizard to watch his play for 1 session
This is described as
A private table (as mdawg always plays alone)
A marker of at least 8k is drawn
Minimum bet to be discussed prior to challenge.
Chip rack is counted prior to playing and upon leaving
The session is a least one shoe with at least 75 percent of hands being played .
The session results in a win.
A full session report can be posted my mdawg and verified by wizard .





As Michael buffer says.

Letís get readddyyyyyyyyyyy to rumble.





Havenít changed rules. Ití says 75 percent of hands for one shoe . How is any of this ambiguous?

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