Joeman
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January 22nd, 2015 at 5:59:04 AM permalink
First of all, many thanks to the Wizard & crew for making this happen! With the recent AC happenings and the proliferation of casinos all over the US/world in the past decade or so, the "Other Casinos" section was getting to be a bit of a bloated hodgepodge.

Unfortunately for the Wiz, no good deed goes unpunished. I bet if you ask 10 different forum members, you will get 11 different opinions on how the sections should be categorized!

That said, please allow me to submit my $0.02. :)

Quote: wudged

How about North East and South East instead of East/Gulf Coast?
I don't know if any of those Florida cruise ships go out into the Atlantic.


Unless there are some I do not know about, more the FL gambling boats sail into the Atlantic than the Gulf (not to mention the GA and SC boats that can only sail into the Atlantic).

How about replacing MS and Eastern U.S. categories with: 1)"Atlantic Seaboard" which would cover casinos in most of the orig 13 colonies, except the Deep South; 2) "Southeast US" which would not only cover the Gulf Coast, but the FL/GA/SC boats as well as places like Tunica & Shreveport; and 3) "Midwest" that would cover, say, Pittsburgh/Buffalo to Chicagoland, and include MO & IN casinos.

Quote: odiousgambit

In that vein of being a pain-in-the-arse, the "belly full o'beer and a possum in a sack" phrase makes no sense attached to the East Coast, it'd be appropriate for Louisiana


As a representative of the proposed Southeast category, I would like to request this category description! ;)
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thecesspit
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January 22nd, 2015 at 9:24:05 AM permalink
What about Canada? We gamble up here.....
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Dieter
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January 22nd, 2015 at 9:30:44 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

What about Canada? We gamble up here.....



I believe you could discuss it here

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Dieter
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January 22nd, 2015 at 9:32:22 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

3) "Midwest" that would cover, say, Pittsburgh/Buffalo to Chicagoland, and include MO & IN casinos.



What's your stance on Oklahoma? Midwest?
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Joeman
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January 22nd, 2015 at 9:39:11 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

What's your stance on Oklahoma? Midwest?


As a rule, if your state has a university whose nickname is "Cowboys," you must be classified in the "Western US" category! ;)
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studmuffn
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January 22nd, 2015 at 10:06:19 AM permalink
I think that these new categories are a great addition, because many people in the 'Other Casinos' forum were likely there for a specific region.

The now dead BlackJackInfo.com forums had the regions nicely split into Vegas, NV outside Vegas, Eastern US, Southern US, Midwest US, Western US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Asia/Africa/Far East and Caribbean/ Latin America. They don't have the clever subtitles though.

I think the current format is fine if we add Louisiana discussions for casinos in Shreveport and Lake Charles to the 'Mississippi' category.
thecesspit
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January 22nd, 2015 at 10:56:01 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

I believe you could discuss it here

Hooray bingo!



Good point, well presented.
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tes3355
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January 22nd, 2015 at 3:41:56 PM permalink
Quote: wudged

How about North East and South East instead of East/Gulf Coast?

I don't know if any of those Florida cruise ships go out into the Atlantic.

The Gulf Coast category in vpFREE2.com includes casinos in all states that are on the Gulf, so all of Florida, Mississippi and Louisiana. Inland cities like Tunica and cruise ships in the Atlantic out of Florida are in that category. (Would include Texas and Alabama if they had any real video poker.)
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January 22nd, 2015 at 4:58:07 PM permalink
To catch up, I have asked JB to add sections for the SLS, Downton Grand, and Cromwell.

I will also change the subtitle for eastern US.

Somebody asked where the dividing line is between western and eastern US. I think the Mississippi River is a good benchmark, but will leave that up to the readers to decide.

Regarding the groupings, I knew that no breakdown would please everybody. Seems to be that between Biloxi and Tunica, Mississippi has a pretty big market. I'm pretty sure that Mississippi has a larger market share than Atlantic City. Canada is a worthwhile suggestion but we don't get that many posts about it, especially since varmenti was nuked. As I recall, he liked the Niagara Falls casinos.

I'll review the breakdowns from time to time but don't feel like doing any fine tuning just yet.

Regarding the subtitles, I didn't want to make them too obvious. The eastern US was the hardest one to come up with. I agree that Louisiana is ambiguous whether it falls in the east or west, so, again, will replace that one.
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January 22nd, 2015 at 5:21:03 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Somebody asked where the dividing line is between western and eastern US. I think the Mississippi River is a good benchmark, but will leave that up to the readers to decide.


The minor difficulty I see with the Mississippi as the dividing line is that it passes right through some (small) gaming centers: St. Louis, New Orleans, perhaps someplace else. Why draw a line that puts Casino Queen of E. St. Louis and Argosy Alton in the East but Lumiere Place and River City in the West? This is a bit of an exaggeration, but that solution is just a tad like drawing the line down South Las Vegas Boulevard and considering Paris Las Vegas to be in the "East" but Bellagio in the "West."

The only "better" suggestion I can offer right now (certainly not a perfect one) would be to divide the country at the border between Central and Mountain time zones -- that shouldn't split up too many things that should be clustered.

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