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skrbornevrymin
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September 12th, 2013 at 6:19:18 PM permalink
The website could be expanded to include a "classified for sale" section for new and/or used gambling related products and services, or maybe even anything Vegas related. There could be a fee (either percentage or flat fee) for posting an item for sale there. If it works it could be expanded to a full-blown classified sales section to include more kinds of items. With a little more work there could be an online auction section for certain items.
scudder
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September 12th, 2013 at 8:55:01 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thanks for all the continued comments. I've been leaning more against a paid membership option. I'm not crazy about the "donate" button either, as I don't think it will bring in much, and don't want to feel obligated to anyone who makes a donation.

In other words, I would like to give back something for helping to support the site.

What do you think of this idea. A Wizard donation auction. I would put on eBay various things I don't really need, as much gambling related as possible, and promote the auction here. Hopefully those wanting to support the site would be generous in their bidding.

2013 has been an absolutely awful year for me financially. I just found out that of all the money I lost in Cyprus I won't be getting a penny back. The media has been reporting account holders would have to take a 52.5% "haircut" about 100,000 Euros, but my money was in the weaker Laiki Bank, and I had to take a 100% haircut. Bovada revenue is down 55% on top of that. Still, I make more than most people, and have a lot to be thankful for, but I need to turn things around.



This is a great idea, I would definitely be bidding. Very sorry to hear about your Cyprus woes...an awful situation indeed.
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September 12th, 2013 at 8:57:04 PM permalink
Dumb question time : any thoughts on going back into the corporate world. Just asking !

No reply needed and certainly no disrespect intended.
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September 13th, 2013 at 8:44:37 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm not crazy about the "donate" button either, as I don't think it will bring in much, and don't want to feel obligated to anyone who makes a donation.



Donations probably won't work on a forum, but they should work on the Odds site.

My expereince, admittedly second-hand, is that poeple will pay to keep going a content provider they like. This relates mostly to podcasts produced on a regular basis (bi-weekly, weekly, bi-monthly and so on), but it might translate. the problem is that the Odss site is largely complete. That is, the information for most games has already been posted, and very likely linked to and reposted as well.
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September 13th, 2013 at 9:31:18 AM permalink
I think a "chip-in" or other donation spot is a double-edged sword. Should get some response, especially from repeat users and regular forum members, but it also gives a possibly false impression that there's a vulnerability in the owner's finances after years of free advice, and somewhat defeats the goal of advocating the free exchange of what the casinos consider proprietary information and the Wizard maintains should be consumer disclosure. I don't think the monies received would justify the erosion of reputation and perception.
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SanchoPanza
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September 13th, 2013 at 9:42:40 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I don't think the monies received would justify the erosion of reputation and perception.

+1
lojo
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September 17th, 2013 at 2:30:57 PM permalink
I'm pretty sure that one of two things happened with the Revel promo and neither had anything to do with your +EV analysis or recommendations. They either botched the maths or they planned to jerk the rug if it went too hot anyway. I fail to see where a dmz for subscribers would have anything to do with that. Remove the reason from consideration and do something with AP Heat and it might make sense, but I really don't see any reason to use a botched promo that had nothing to do with your maths or recommendations as an impetus for a new service.

I would participate and I only see it as good for player and industry alike. I don't see adding a VIP section as dividing the forum, access wouldn't have to be restricted to monetary contribution - valuable forum contributions could be counted. Anyone who cares to partake and contribute to the overall value of your fora could be considered. duffers need not apply. I, for one, would be honored to earn my way into the forum. When I think about it like that maybe it would be best to NOT let people in with a fee, but have a metric therein where VIPs could help support the site financially.

I don't know much about affiliate business, especially for land casinos but I do see the offer on the bottom of most LV casino web pages. And I sure as heck don't know the legality or kosherness of brokering credits via comp cards, but that might be an angle. I could actually put my wild mind to it but no sense in throwing a lot of ideas out here now. I just think there may be a way you could self-support that section and make something denizens would want to strive for, rather than an Us and Them thing like others have suggested it might become.
lojo
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September 20th, 2013 at 11:11:42 PM permalink
Do I really need to go back to that thread and tell the whiners to shut 'er down. You should be embarrassed your host started this thread.
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October 16th, 2013 at 5:22:17 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thanks for the comments thus far.

One thing I don't want to see is a VIP section dividing the forum. I don't want to see all the good stuff in VIP and the free section turn into a cesspool.

The way I view it is kind of like donating to public television/radio. It is a way to support something you enjoy, plus gives me a way to give really good tips on a limited basis. Note that future hot tips can't be promised.

I hesitate to take memberships on a monthly basis, because some may only pay for the one month when there is a hot tip.



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October 19th, 2013 at 6:32:44 AM permalink
It's done. All but three of the forums on the Blackjack:The Forum web site are now private.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi

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