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Croupier
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February 22nd, 2011 at 3:50:08 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Actually, somebody else sent me a PM about it too, which I read first. However, you two can share the credit. I won't mention the other name, per my rule about not quoting from private communication.



Things will indeed be strange without both of them for seven days.



Not strange. Quiet, and maybe pleasant, but definitely not strange.
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WizardofEngland
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February 22nd, 2011 at 4:02:29 AM permalink
Quote: JerryLogan

I'm not in favor of this because I don't believe cripples should be wasting their time in casinos. These places are for the young & vibrant and others of means, but if the local casinos want to add them to their base of local degenerates who come in to throw whatever money they get through entitlements into the poker and keno machines, that's fine with me as long as I don't have to look at them in the more upscale resorts I visit.



I have never really seen many of your posts, as your nearly always banned, and to be honest I thought you were a bit like the class clown. But now I just think your a moron, I thought evolution had eradicated people you like you, but I guess I was wrong. The sooner you are permanently banned, the better. You have no place here.
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Croupier
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February 22nd, 2011 at 4:04:02 AM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

I have never really seen many of your posts, as your nearly always banned, and to be honest I thought you were a bit like the class clown. But now I just think your a moron, I thought evolution had eradicated people you like you, but I guess I was wrong. The soon you are permanently banned, the better. You have no place here.



He already is Permabanned by the Wizard. The hammer came down earlier, and I for one am grateful.
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WizardofEngland
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February 22nd, 2011 at 4:06:17 AM permalink
I don't understand how he can either;

1) have that view
2) think its funny
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discflicker
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February 22nd, 2011 at 4:41:18 AM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

I have never really seen many of your posts, as your nearly always banned, and to be honest I thought you were a bit like the class clown. But now I just think your a moron, I thought evolution had eradicated people you like you, but I guess I was wrong. The sooner you are permanently banned, the better. You have no place here.



Check out the movie IDIOCRACY

During the prologue, a narrator (Earl Mann) explains that in modern society, natural selection is indifferent toward intelligence. In a society in which stupid people easily out-breed the intelligent, the result is a world that has degenerated into a barely functioning society held together by a rapidly crumbling, mostly automated technological infrastructure that was created by intelligent individuals many years (perhaps centuries) earlier that few, if any, of the less intelligent members of 26th Century society know how to operate or fix. In the 26th Century, highway overpasses have collapsed, structurally failing buildings are tied together for support, automated vacuuming systems barely function, voice-prompted machinery regularly misinterprets commands, computers automatically lay off workers without anybody knowing how to stop it, nuclear power plants leak and go unrepaired, and buildings often have huge holes in their roofs.
The difference between zero and the smallest possible number? It doesn't matter; once you cross that edge, it might as well be the difference between zero and 1. The difference between infinity and reality? They are mutually exclusive.
DJTeddyBear
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February 22nd, 2011 at 5:25:46 AM permalink
Yes, casinos SHOULD provide live gaming access to the handicapped - but only to a certain point.

Here's a news flash: Handicapped people know they're handicapped, and know the world wasn't designed for handicapped people to thrive in. As a result, they either do their best to adapt to the non-handicapped world, or do without certain things.

Should the casinos be required to, or even voluntarily, design specific slot machines for handicap use? No. If you make a select few machines specifically for the handicapped, it creates an aura of distrust and/or doubt whether those machines payback the same as other machines. Since most casinos already designate certain machine clusters to have specific paybacks, it becomes a logistic nightmare to include some handicap machines in every group. Therefore, it should either be all or nothing. Simple economics dictates that it be nothing.

On the other hand, I do find it surprising how casinos generally have, at most, only one table game that is shorter, so that someone in a wheelchair can join in. Although short tables mean a chair must be provided for the dealer, chairs (and tables) cost slightly less when they are the short variety. And many people prefer sitting in the standard height chairs rather than tall chairs.



Quote: JerryLogan

Who's Stephen Hawking?

It saddens me to admit this, but Jerry is right about one thing. Stephen Hawking is NOT a household name.

While I have known about him for years, the only time I ever saw him 'move' or heard him 'speak' was in the Star Trek TNG episode where he played himself.

I just did a brief survey of the people in my office. 3 out of 7 people knew the name. 2 more recalled him once his handicap was described.
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discflicker
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February 22nd, 2011 at 6:24:52 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Here's a news flash: Handicapped people know they're handicapped, and know the world wasn't designed for handicapped people to thrive in. As a result, they either do their best to adapt to the non-handicapped world, or do without certain things.

Wait a second... IS THIS JERRY?
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Should the casinos be required to, or even voluntarily, design specific slot machines for handicap use? No. If you make a select few machines specifically for the handicapped, it creates an aura of distrust and/or doubt whether those machines payback the same as other machines. Since most casinos already designate certain machine clusters to have specific paybacks, it becomes a logistic nightmare to include some handicap machines in every group.


DJ, the question is specifically about an industry-wide effort to provide handicapped access for LIVE gaming (you know, LIVE craps, LIVE roulette), yes or no.

Slot machines have no bearing upon this question because these are NOT slots, these are player gaming stations; they function EXACTLY the same as a player sitting in a certain seat making bets with real chips in a live game of craps. These stations, or kiosks, or terminals, or whatever you want to call them, ONLY function to facilitate chip-less gaming.

Confusing these with slot machines is exactly like saying people will be suspicious if they sit at a table that has lower seats (the ones for handicapped you mentioned). They dont "pay-out" any differently between them, them don't "pay-out" at all.

You then go on confusing the issue further by discussing "machine clustering" which has nothing to do with where players sit at a LIVE game... LIVE, YOU KNOW, LIVE, standing around a large wooden non-virtual Roulette table.

And then, your conclusion is:
Quote: DJTeddyBear


Therefore, it should either be all or nothing. Simple economics dictates that it be nothing.


Which makes no sense and yet conflicts with your opening statement of:
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Yes, casinos SHOULD provide live gaming access to the handicapped - but only to a certain point.


OK, you got me DJ, WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN? I know Iíve written some very complex posts and you act as though you donít understand them. Is this some twisted kind of payback or did you really not understand the simple question?


BTW, If the answer to the question is yes, this same effort will help get your bet into production, as we've discussed in your thread.
The difference between zero and the smallest possible number? It doesn't matter; once you cross that edge, it might as well be the difference between zero and 1. The difference between infinity and reality? They are mutually exclusive.
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February 22nd, 2011 at 7:12:49 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Things will indeed be strange without both of them for seven days.



I nominate strange to be the new normal ;)
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DJTeddyBear
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February 22nd, 2011 at 7:39:51 AM permalink
Quote: discflicker

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Yes, casinos SHOULD provide live gaming access to the handicapped - but only to a certain point.

OK, you got me DJ, WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN?

I indicated why nothing should be done to change slot machines, unless the change applies to every slot machine in the casino. I also indicated that changing all the machines is not economical.

I also indicated that lowering table heights for live games not only enables more handicapped / wheelchair bound players to play, but would not cost much, and might actually be preferred by the non-handicapped players. For those reasons, it surprises me that there aren't more short tables than there are.

The "only to a certain point" comment was simply that they should do whatever is economically feasable. Adding more short tables is feasable. Anything beyond that is not.
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁 Note that the same could be said for Religion. I.E. Religion is nothing more than organized superstition. 🤗
Wavy70
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February 22nd, 2011 at 10:03:44 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

With this post Jerry becomes the first casualty of my newly added Nuclear Option, rule #12.

Say goodbye to Jerry everybody.



How about good riddance instead of good bye?

Am I the only one who thinks his whole purpose was to make this site hostile and unfriendly since Jerry's Lord and Master (RS) is thought to be a rather silly individual here?

Jerry is of dubious antecedents and conjectural progeny who I am sure will find another website to yell "Pay attention to me".
I have a bewitched egg that I use to play VP with and I have net over 900k with it.

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