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DRich
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August 17th, 2018 at 7:29:40 PM permalink
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DRich I'd love to learn more about your game. Do you have a demo or anything for it?



I know I have it on one of the servers in my garage but nothing is hooked up. Those old servers run Windows NT which doesn't support USB so it would be difficult to get it off without setting up the whole network again. Sorry.
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DRich
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August 17th, 2018 at 7:34:30 PM permalink
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I think it works and I think it also gives a player more opportunity to make mistakes, so you can offer a good return on the overall game knowing players are less likely to realize it.



It is a difficult balance. My Ace Invaders game was put in the casinos with 98%-99% theo return. Sadly, everybody played it so poorly, around 90%, that the game died a pretty quick death because people were not getting any seat time. I was pleased to see last week someone was still playing one at Green Valley Ranch when I went in for dinner.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/tables/ace-invaders/
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gordonm888
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August 17th, 2018 at 8:13:42 PM permalink
On my primary hand, I discarded 3 cards including the Kd, and there was a Kd in the 3 cards I drew.

Please explain how many decks the cards are drawn from. Do the presence of cards in the bonus hand (3 cards) affect the probabilities of getting cards in the primary hand?
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August 18th, 2018 at 5:51:32 AM permalink
Thanks Wizard.

Drawing to the three card hand is an option that we can think about. The only problem with it becomes trying to play two separate hands at one time. It is an interesting thought.
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August 18th, 2018 at 6:02:53 AM permalink
Mission146,

I like your thoughts on how the overall RTP would be impacted by allowing players to choose the cards to send to the string hand. I could definitely see myself making errors of how to build the string hand since it took me a while to get used to the straight paying more than the flush. I think little errors like that would be very common when playing.

Yes, I also think it is way over 100% right now and we will adjust that once we get the autopicker where it needs to be. I've also been thinking about the amount need to play the game and it may end up being similar to what we did with MultiDraw where we were able to highlight the feature of the MD card by charging a 5 + 10 bet to cover the feature. It allowed the MD feature to happen very often and I think most people were okay with that.

I've also just thought about doing a flat bet of maybe 15 credits or something like that. If you get into the bonus it would be considered just that, a bonus which wouldn't require any additional wager. The only time the player would have to bet again is when they lose the main hand.

Does anyone know the average number of consecutive winning and losing hands when playing video poker? I can see players losing a number of hands in a row, but it also has the potential to win a good number, too.
RealizeGaming
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August 18th, 2018 at 6:10:09 AM permalink
DRich,

I've always been intrigued by Ace Invaders and have had an idea similar to it laying around on my desk for many years. I love the concept I have, but I don't feel like I can differentiate it enough from Ace Invaders so as of now it will continue to sit there.

That seems like a big difference between what is offered as a return and what players played the game at. I'm trying to think back to the game to think about some of the most obvious errors when playing Ace Invaders, but I can't think of any right off the top of my head. Regardless, Ace Invaders was a fun game and I'm surprised more casinos didn't/don't offer it.
RealizeGaming
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August 18th, 2018 at 6:23:34 AM permalink
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On my primary hand, I discarded 3 cards including the Kd, and there was a Kd in the 3 cards I drew.

Please explain how many decks the cards are drawn from. Do the presence of cards in the bonus hand (3 cards) affect the probabilities of getting cards in the primary hand?



gordonm888,

The string hand and the main hand use two separate decks of cards. The string hand is dealt to provide three random cards and the main hand is dealt from a separate deck to provide the main five card hand. If the player wins in the main hand, a "copy" of the card will be sent to the string hand to either upgrade the string hand value or an exact copy of a card may be sent to the string hand to increase the multiplier by 1. Once the string hand is upgraded and the next hand takes place, all cards in the original deck are available to appear in the main hand. This process continues until the player loses in the main hand. Once that happens, both the string hand and main hand are dealt new cards from separate decks and the whole process starts all over again.

Another easy way to think about the game is each hand is a separate deck of cards and you are playing regular video poker in the main hand and the string hand is a three card poker hand that is used as a multiplier hand that can be upgraded for winning consecutive hands. Let me know if that helps or not and I will try to clear it up further if needed.
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August 18th, 2018 at 9:19:05 AM permalink
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gordonm888,

The string hand and the main hand use two separate decks of cards. The string hand is dealt to provide three random cards and the main hand is dealt from a separate deck to provide the main five card hand. If the player wins in the main hand, a "copy" of the card will be sent to the string hand to either upgrade the string hand value or an exact copy of a card may be sent to the string hand to increase the multiplier by 1. Once the string hand is upgraded and the next hand takes place, all cards in the original deck are available to appear in the main hand. This process continues until the player loses in the main hand. Once that happens, both the string hand and main hand are dealt new cards from separate decks and the whole process starts all over again.

Another easy way to think about the game is each hand is a separate deck of cards and you are playing regular video poker in the main hand and the string hand is a three card poker hand that is used as a multiplier hand that can be upgraded for winning consecutive hands. Let me know if that helps or not and I will try to clear it up further if needed.



Thank you for that very clear explanation. However, I did experience one hand in the demo game in which I discarded a Kd (and 2 other cards) from the primary hand and immediately drew a Kd amongst the 3 cards drawn to the primary hand. I believe this occurred on a "string hand" - on a primary hand that was being played with a higher multiplier subsequent to a winning hand.
RealizeGaming
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August 19th, 2018 at 7:30:00 AM permalink
Thanks gordonm888 for letting me know. It shouldn't happen where a card you discard comes back into the hand on the draw in the primary. I will keep an eye out for this to see if I can get it to happen when I play so we can fix it.
RealizeGaming
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August 24th, 2018 at 4:23:16 PM permalink
We have updated the game to fix some of the little issues mentioned on the forums. The autopicker is much improved and getting very close to where we want it. Once the autopicker is complete and we are comfortable with it, we will start tweaking the pay scales multipliers to get the math at an acceptable return. Give the update a try and feel free to use the controls at the bottom left of the demo to control the cards dealt in each hand.

Demo Link: http://www.realizegamingllc.com/dev/stringPoker/


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