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mrsuit31
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November 20th, 2017 at 9:30:10 AM permalink
Keep us posted with the progress in those jurisdictions.

Will you be supplying the casinos with the CSMs for the trials, or will they be renting them themselves? Iím curious to see how the commissionís for these tribals or states address the countbility issue...

How are things going at Magnolia Bluffs? Any idea when PA is going to approve you guys?
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MrCasinoGames
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November 20th, 2017 at 10:54:20 AM permalink
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I have to amend my report as i had another casino reach out to me yesterday about a trial so the kindness apparently did not end upon conclusion of the conference.


Good lucky with COU.
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Zcore13
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November 20th, 2017 at 2:36:17 PM permalink
Quote: kobalj

I have to amend my report as i had another casino reach out to me yesterday about a trial so the kindness apparently did not end upon conclusion of the conference. Consider that along with the vast number of casino execs that were kind at the show and one thing is clear, this industry is a lot more warm and fuzzy than i had thought. I had no clue it was so kind. Oh well, even though it stings a tad to learn that the interest shown in the game was actually unbeknownst to me lacking authenticity, the amount of kindness I experienced gives me a more positive outlook on life in general. Lol



Well, I guess I have to admit now that you have figured it out, this isn't easy business and we were all just saying things to you that are not true.

Table games people love new games with no track history.

Getting people to talk to you guarantees installs.

Once you get an install, most likely for free or close to it, you're set. They can't uninstall it and other casinos must then follow suit. And the licensing fees in each State and Tribe don't count when figuring if you are making money.

Pick 'Em Blackjack, Aces Poker Face and Switch Hands, the top 3 games at the 2014 conference are all multi-millionaires.

Texas Switch, Half Back Blackjack and Super Sweep Poker, the top 3 in 2015 owners are all retired to tropical islands.

Gamblit Poker, Down Under Blackjack and 3 Card Draw Poker, the top 3 for 2016 are on fire with people crashing down their doors.

Congrats on conquering the industry.


ZCore13
I am an employee of a Casino. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
kobalj
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November 20th, 2017 at 2:42:39 PM permalink
The advantage player issue is unavoidable as it is for many games. Be that as it may, i had Joe Shipman analyze it in a report which covers straight-forward measures that can be taken or of course just use a CSM which completely makes it a non-issue. The state of Mississippi approved the game knowing all of the above and it appears Pa. will as well although that one is still pending. I have reason to believe we are close in pa. Regardless the card counting issue has yet to be an issue from the stand point of being approved but it did cost me a placement or two. Not much more i can do w that one.

Just wanted to report my first impression of the expo. I loved it and it is a great way for game developers meet allot of casinos. As far as the casinos that asked for us to contact their jurisdiction goes that is just the first step in the process of getting placed. No big deal. Long way to go before opening night. Whether you believe me or not is sort of fun to think about from time to time but it doesnít matter. The fact thatís being questioned is kind of funny and maybe a little strange too.

Itís a great little game. Get used to it.
mcallister3200
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November 20th, 2017 at 3:22:15 PM permalink
I think you are underestimating how badly the known vulnerability can cripple your chances. I'm not saying it should be a huge issue as you have recommended action to take care of it but I think it will be. Hope for you I'm wrong but I can't think of a single new game off the top of my head that gained a lot of placements when it came out with a well known vulnerability. The games that are everywhere out there with known vulnerabilities were already very popular by the time vulnerability was known, making the operators question how do we deal with it not should we put it on the floor. If there's a human involved in the implementation of anything, there's always a non zero chance things will be screwed up. There are tons of games approved in Nevada and Washington state (seems easier to get approved Washington) that I would like to see but you cannot find anywhere once they were known to be vulnerable and were not yet widespread.
SM777
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November 20th, 2017 at 5:23:30 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Well, I guess I have to admit now that you have figured it out, this isn't easy business and we were all just saying things to you that are not true.

Table games people love new games with no track history.

Getting people to talk to you guarantees installs.

Once you get an install, most likely for free or close to it, you're set. They can't uninstall it and other casinos must then follow suit. And the licensing fees in each State and Tribe don't count when figuring if you are making money.

Pick 'Em Blackjack, Aces Poker Face and Switch Hands, the top 3 games at the 2014 conference are all multi-millionaires.

Texas Switch, Half Back Blackjack and Super Sweep Poker, the top 3 in 2015 owners are all retired to tropical islands.

Gamblit Poker, Down Under Blackjack and 3 Card Draw Poker, the top 3 for 2016 are on fire with people crashing down their doors.

Congrats on conquering the industry.


ZCore13



Well said.

I think we're overlooking how well Casino Over Under showed, it didn't even place in the top 3.....
kobalj
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November 21st, 2017 at 4:40:45 AM permalink
Itís definitely not an easy feat to pull off and Iím not guaranteeing anything. However, between all of the casino execs i have spoken to leading up to and at the show i know that a vast majority of them see exactly what i see. Is it the best table game ever made? Nope. Is it a simple, fast-paced game that yields very little intimidation to the players playing it? Yes it is. Is there a place for such a game? Yes.

So forgive my brashness but thereís nothing someone can say in a forum that will change my opinion that is based on first-hand experiences Iíve had. The game has been accepted as good by many in the industry. If you canít see why then you should probably take a closer look bc there are plenty of attributes that are easily identifiable.

If you are banking on my gameís demise just be patient. It still could happen. Just not any time soon as Iím only just starting to put things together. Every day more and more people download the game from all over the globe. Long way to go ladies and gents, a long way to go.
kobalj
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November 21st, 2017 at 5:22:58 AM permalink
Itís vulnerable ďonly ifĒ the operator is not using a CSM nor are they following joe shipmans counter measures right? ďOnly ifsĒ are very important and should not be ignored. Big difference from just plain old vulnerable.

Speaking of Shipman i wouldnít sleep on One Card Poker. Great game, simple and quick. I also would not sleep on Easy Jack as i had the fortunate opportunity to stay at Aria and it was not only amazing but the dealers knew all about Easy Jack and were quite fond of it. The top three only logic is garbage for a number of reasons i wonít insult your intelligence by repeating.

Lastly remember itís not 1990. I think a few of you are stuck in that era. There are more casinos. There are more table game opportunities considering online, ETG, Android, iPhone and international waters. Thereís plenty of room for many games.
mrsuit31
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November 21st, 2017 at 6:00:45 AM permalink
Joseph Shipman's Report

I think you need to reread this report. I don't think you fully understand what it says (nor did you when you posted it). A CSM is your only realistic option.
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kobalj
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November 21st, 2017 at 8:12:22 AM permalink
I just talked w Shipman about it last week. It means exactly what it says. Jeepers fellas! Iím used to people disagreeing w me as thatís all i do all day every day is argue but having my ability to read questioned along w my ability to decipher meaning from my one on one interactions i had w people is absolutely hilarious.

You worry about your game their buddy and i will worry about mine. Iím happy that moneysuit or classic suit or whatever you are calling it now got a second placement and a damn good one where the casino is marketing for it. Good for you brother.

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