Paradigm
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September 10th, 2017 at 9:51:22 AM permalink
I think the problem if you paid Quads in the base game is where do the "4 Card" pays stop. Are you going to reward a "41" as well when all 4 Cards are suited ten values with an Ace? What about a 4 Card 40?

The base game is a 3 card game that is true to the parlor game of 31. A Progressive is where I think you can start getting creative with not only rewarding high ranking 3 Card hands, but also incorporate 4 Card pays.
Mission146
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September 10th, 2017 at 10:21:46 AM permalink
I would stop at just the 4OaK, could you imagine getting dealt Trips, hitting the Quad, and still only getting 6:1? When you talk about four card Royals and things of that nature, I just don't think it would feel like such a rip off to the average person.
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mrsuit31
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September 10th, 2017 at 10:22:20 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I would agree with incorporating that as well, but I meant that there should be some sort of special pay for Quads on the base game due to the low effect that such a pay would have on the house edge.



Quote: Paradigm

The base game is a 3 card game that is true to the parlor game of 31. A Progressive is where I think you can start getting creative with not only rewarding high ranking 3 Card hands, but also incorporate 4 Card pays.



Mission, paradigm's response is pretty spot on with why I don't want to include anything involving 4 card hands into the base game and saving those for additional optional side wagers. I'm very stern on not messing with the game of 31 for the base underlying games...

But I definitely understand your point regarding the lack of any real house edge change by incorporating it into the base game....
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mrsuit31
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September 21st, 2017 at 10:47:55 AM permalink
For the first few weeks the game is off to a fantastic start! While I was in town, I saw a heavy amount of returning play from the casino regulars as well as many newcomers trying it out for the first time. The players are really enjoying the game, which is evidenced by the returning play from the regulars! The table was busy or full for a good portion of each day/night I was on site. I'm sure It doesn't hurt that I had seen numerous $1000 & $2000+ single hand winners on 100 and 200 to 1 natural bonus wager hits :-)

The Dealers openly express how they like dealing the game over the others on their floor due to the simplicity/ease of the procedures and also how they enjoy dealing it because it's simply "very fun". The draw card has served its purpose to create a large amount of excitement and, even more importantly, creating a large amount of player interaction, where each players and the dealer will be shouting/calling for what they want the draw card to be to see each other hit large payouts or simply come from behind and win on the base game.

All in all a very promising start!!! Many people out there, of all ages, grew up playing the game 31 like I had, which only further established the vast market potential that exist for my games.

Here are two social media promos the casino has put out for the game. I'm a big fan of the pictorial game introduction that had done, as it is a very good rules walk through for new players learning the game (each picture in sequence has the step by step rule it is depicting). Also, the did a short little edited interview with me to also help try and promote the game.

Short edited interview

Pictorial Game Intro
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Zcore13
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September 21st, 2017 at 11:08:51 AM permalink
Great job and perseverance!


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October 20th, 2017 at 7:47:29 AM permalink
Congrats mrsuit31

This proves perseverance and belief in your game can overcome the many obstacles that are thrown in the way of independent games developers, needless to say the game's got to be top notch as well.

Good luck and hope this builds your game a great foundation to expand from.
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October 20th, 2017 at 9:51:14 AM permalink
PokerGrinders trip report to the Yukon mentioned that he tried to get on your game at Muckleshoot a couple weeks ago. 2 tables full, couldn't get a seat.

I say, awesome! May you grow and prosper with it.
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October 20th, 2017 at 10:16:49 AM permalink
Any update on performance?
blondie1sb
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October 20th, 2017 at 10:20:35 AM permalink
Congratulations and may this be the start of something much bigger for you!
mrsuit31
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October 20th, 2017 at 10:54:58 AM permalink
Quote: SM777

Any update on performance?



Hi all, thank you for the continuing kind words! I am very happy to hear that report from PG and I have been hearing similar reports from folks I have kept in touch with since visiting the facility a few weeks ago (Staff and players alike). I can't share specific details, but the game is performing VERY well. It is holding exactly where it should (of course it still a small sample set), dropping very well (without even considering that it is brand new on a $3 base game/$1 side wager table Min) and the return play has been astronomical (which is most important to me for proof of concept). I could not be happier at the moment.

On a side note, be on the lookout for a separate thread in the next few weeks about the game entering another important/large jurisdiction :-), one I have been pursuing since day one of starting this journey............................................

The above referenced performance data/reports from direct from Muckleshoot helped secure upcoming trial, info to be released soon!

Thanks everyone for the continued support. After almost 10 year (almost a 3rd of my entire life), things finally seem to be starting to come together. Keep your fingers crossed for me!
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