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Ibeatyouraces
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March 24th, 2016 at 10:17:23 PM permalink
DOA for sure.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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March 25th, 2016 at 3:33:38 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

If I may be so bold, I would suggest taking out the words, "Otherwise fold." That would eliminate any ambiguity while still stating that the Instant Winner Payout should be immediately accepted.



Then how would the reader know what to do with a 369 in a three-card hand?
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
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March 25th, 2016 at 3:38:23 AM permalink
Quote: RoyalBJ

Just noticed, (1) the 3 Card Ante pay table and the 4 Card Blind pay table are reversed.



Thanks; good catch.

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(2) 3 Card Ante paytable has two columns, but same numbers. One column for Instant Winner and the other for Winning Ante.



Are you referring to the rack card? That does indeed have the same pay table for both the Ante and Instant Payout. I thought it was confusing and redundant so rephrased to rules to refer to just a single table.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
charliepatrick
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March 25th, 2016 at 5:35:10 AM permalink
It sounds an interesting game.
Quote: Wizard

...page on 4 Card Split...

Just to say that the "4 card blind pay table", assuming the values in the bet analysis are correct, has left out Trips and hence the payouts are one place wrong.
RoyalBJ
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March 25th, 2016 at 6:39:57 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thanks; good catch.



Are you referring to the rack card? That does indeed have the same pay table for both the Ante and Instant Payout. I thought it was confusing and redundant so rephrased to rules to refer to just a single table.

Yes, for 3-card hands, there are Instant Winners and Winning Antes, 2 columns represent two payout tables. The only difference is that Instant Winner only pays down to flush, Winning Ante has even money payout (for any 3-card poker winner). The developer uses the same payout odds for these 2, easier for the dealers.
RoyalBJ
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March 25th, 2016 at 6:45:34 AM permalink
Since you have re-labeled the paytables, these two sentences should be reversed.

The following pay table is for the 4 Card Blind bet. All hands are based on four cards. All wins are on a "to one" basis.

The following pay table is for winning Ante bets. All hands are based on three cards. All wins are on a "to one" basis.
Mission146
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March 25th, 2016 at 7:56:18 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Then how would the reader know what to do with a 369 in a three-card hand?



I suppose the reader wouldn't, but when it says, "Then fold," it sounds like you should never play a three-card hand unless it is an, "Instant Winner." You could have two two-card hands that still do not comprise a Three-Card hand that you would play.

I might be the only one that reads, "Otherwise fold," that way. I might have said, "Otherwise, determine whether a Three-Card hand and a One-Card hand is still superior, or if two Two-Card hands are superior."
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 25th, 2016 at 8:07:12 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I might be the only one that reads, "Otherwise fold," that way. I might have said, "Otherwise, determine whether a Three-Card hand and a One-Card hand is still superior, or if two Two-Card hands are superior."



I do not endeavor to offer advice on hand splitting. Just the fold/raise decision after the split.
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RoyalBJ
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March 25th, 2016 at 12:00:33 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

DOA for sure.

I just voted "will play", again.
RoyalBJ
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March 25th, 2016 at 12:18:08 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Okay, please be among the first to visit my new page on 4 Card Split.

As always, I welcome questions, comments, and especially corrections.

Wizard, I recall the game was played with all cards face-up, all the time, except for the folded hands that are face-down. Collusion is allowed. However, when I was playing, every player was mostly worried about his / her own hand. I was told by the dealer, the developer claimed to have thought through these.

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