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vegas702
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August 28th, 2014 at 3:31:55 AM permalink
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NowTheSerpent
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August 28th, 2014 at 3:56:39 AM permalink
Quote: allinriverking

A small disc labeled “TRUE” is placed on top of any parlayed Hardway Bet



I hate lammers; there are too many as it is. However, the bet sounds tempting to try, is truly novel, and isn't time-consuming to book or settle. It may evolve into a "Buy-Hardways" bet, with either EV = -4.76% = -9/189 = -1/21 (CIB) or EV = -0.529% = -1/189 (CWO). The incentive to the casino would be the $21/bet price tag; to the player, an HE much lower than the standard Place Hardways figure.
allinriverking
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August 28th, 2014 at 4:30:08 AM permalink
Quote: NowTheSerpent

I hate lammers; there are too many as it is. However, the bet sounds tempting to try, is truly novel, and isn't time-consuming to book or settle. It may evolve into a "Buy-Hardways" bet, with either EV = -4.76% = -9/189 = -1/21 (CIB) or EV = -0.529% = -1/189 (CWO). The incentive to the casino would be the $21/bet price tag; to the player, an HE much lower than the standard Place Hardways figure.



That's sounds interesting, but I'm taking juice out of existing house edge in the first time being bet. The true lammer, same use as a buy lammer basically..
allinriverking
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August 28th, 2014 at 4:33:41 AM permalink
Quote: vegas702

this is the internet after all so that's to be expected. people will often vote without fully understanding the issues . so I'd take any poll with a grain of salt.



Another member just voted they rather get paid less for their hardway bet.. I just chalk it to comical now.. It's like saying pay me 6 to 5 instead of 3 to 2 in BJ.. Makes no sense at all.
vegas702
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August 28th, 2014 at 4:52:14 AM permalink
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wudged
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August 28th, 2014 at 7:29:28 AM permalink
Quote: allinriverking

Another member just voted they rather get paid less for their hardway bet.. I just chalk it to comical now.. It's like saying pay me 6 to 5 instead of 3 to 2 in BJ.. Makes no sense at all.



Maybe people don't want to parlay and just like to play regular hardway bets.
thecesspit
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August 28th, 2014 at 7:56:21 AM permalink
I think there's issues on the house side... they are making a 0 edge bet with larger amounts of money than before.

I rarely play the hardways... this bet is too fiddly and won't entice me to play them any more.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
Buzzard
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August 28th, 2014 at 9:08:51 AM permalink
Quote: allinriverking

Another member just voted they rather get paid less for their hardway bet.. I just chalk it to comical now.. It's like saying pay me 6 to 5 instead of 3 to 2 in BJ.. Makes no sense at all.




But both numbers in 6/5 are bigger than 3/2, so it is a better game.
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allinriverking
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August 28th, 2014 at 9:14:29 AM permalink
Quote: wudged

Maybe people don't want to parlay and just like to play regular hardway bets.



You don't have to parlay. A true parlay is the max a player can press their winning bet to receive the true odds payout. Any amount over a true parlay is treated as a normal hardway... This stops the house from not taking in as much on the hardways. It's like limiting the number of true odds you can take on a pass/come bet..
allinriverking
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August 28th, 2014 at 9:20:33 AM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

But both numbers in 6/5 are bigger than 3/2, so it is a better game.



I actually had a player telling people that before..

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