tringlomane
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smoothgrh
December 7th, 2019 at 6:50:12 AM permalink
Quote: smoothgrh

I just saw the Wizard's page on 3-Way Action video poker.

But I recently learned about the game through an article from 2001.

It's also on the Arcade History site, though they say it's only 9 years old. (For grammar enthusiasts, the hyphen on the glass artwork is oddly between Way and Action instead of between 3 and Way.)

Did the game fail to catch on, and they're trotting it out again 18 years later?? Seems like funóI'd like to try it!

G.



Patent ran out then probably. I don't even know why WMS bothers with VP.
smoothgrh
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December 7th, 2019 at 9:16:03 AM permalink
Quote: CTheWorld

There used to be. Unfortunately they got rid of a bunch and are down to just 3.
(I had my best hit ever on one of those El Cortez machines when I got 4 aces and 3 fours: 120,000 nickels on a $4.50 bet.)


Are youíre asking why there is a 2 at the start of the last equation? It is because the cards could come in either order.



Thanks for the explanationóI did learn that at some point.

You lived the dream on that gameófour aces and a 3 kickers! Amazing!
handsNftRmangos
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June 27th, 2020 at 2:22:52 PM permalink
Does anyone have any clue on the variance/SD of this game? Canít seem to find it anywhere. My initial impression is that it could be very volatile considering the massive hit chance on the 4Aís + 3 low card kicker.
AlanMendelson
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June 28th, 2020 at 2:39:25 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I think that game basically failed to catch on. Nevertheless, I still see them once in a while. I think the Gold Coast has several. That game was a tough one to analyze.



You can't get a seat at Red Rock for these games-- during normal times. Most players are at 1-cent denomination.
CTheWorld
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January 21st, 2021 at 11:05:34 PM permalink
Quote: handsNftRmangos

Does anyone have any clue on the variance/SD of this game? Canít seem to find it anywhere. My initial impression is that it could be very volatile considering the massive hit chance on the 4Aís + 3 low card kicker.



You can sort of estimate this from the return tables on the Wizardís page, by computing the variance for each of the three individual sub hands. It depends on the pay table, but each of those individual hands has a variance in the ballpark of 40.
How to go from that to an overall variance is beyond me, since the three hands are somewhat correlated. But thatís probably good enough to give you a feel for the variance.

The 4A+3K on the 7 card hand isnít as impactful as you think. It adds only about as much variance as the RF does on the draw. (It pays 5X as much, but the RF is ~28x more likely.).
The RF on the draw is the hand that adds the most variance. It pays as much as the 4A+3K and is roughly twice as likely, so it adds more to the return and variance.
handsNftRmangos
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January 22nd, 2021 at 6:07:56 AM permalink
Good info right there, thank you!

I sat at one of these machines last weekend, made it through only about 3 hands before I bailed. The interface was terrible, like a video game from the early 90ís, and the intrigue of the 3 way payouts wasnít enough to get past that (and past the presumed volatility). I find the idea appealing but this game will probably remain a pass for me.
loldongs
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January 22nd, 2021 at 6:38:53 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

You can't get a seat at Red Rock for these games-- during normal times. Most players are at 1-cent denomination.



it's available a few other spots around town. most station casinos have a few of them, as well as south point and the boyd joints. i've seen one of these at the wynn, and one at bellagio, too.

a fun game, i enjoy it much :



handsNftRmangos
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January 22nd, 2021 at 7:40:47 PM permalink
Wynn has a couple. Had been turned off during covid but recently machines moved around and now at least 2 of them are back on. $0.25 min denominations.
CTheWorld
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January 22nd, 2021 at 9:34:33 PM permalink
Quote: handsNftRmangos

The interface was terrible, like a video game from the early 90ís, and the intrigue of the 3 way payouts wasnít enough to get past that



Which variation were you playing?
There are two variations of this game. Both play exactly the same, only the look/interface is different.
One is the picture show above, the other variation (which I think is less common) is shown in the picture on the wizardofodds page.

I really like playing the one pictured above, but I donít like playing the other. I realize that doesnít really make sense given they are the same game.

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