tuatara6
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November 2nd, 2018 at 6:42:56 AM permalink
Does anyone know where I'd be able to find a strategy chart for one eyed jacks? Apparently vpgenius and wolf poker were able to generate a strategy but neither are available anymore. The wizard's strategy maker doesn't seem to have an option to generate one either. I've spent quite awhile searching online with no success, so any help would be appreciated.
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November 2nd, 2018 at 6:49:18 AM permalink
Yes, we don't support a strategy for that game either. I think this is the first time I've been asked for one.
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tuatara6
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November 3rd, 2018 at 12:12:10 PM permalink
I guess that's not surprising, since the game doesn't seem too popular. Anyway, lacking my own programming experience, it looks like my only option for the learning the strategy is to just use a trainer and figure it out on my own through that.

That being the case, I'd rather not start off completely blind if I'm to do that, so does anyone know if there's another game has a somewhat similar strategy? I'm aware that oej is supposed to be very complex and unintuitive so I don't expect any other game to actually be close in terms of strategy, but is there a game that is similar enough that I could use it as a starting point for me to tweak as I use a trainer? One of the joker poker variants possibly?
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November 3rd, 2018 at 10:05:43 PM permalink
From Wolf - 200/75/50 (100.24%)


Rank W Strategy Play Return
HANDS WITH 2 WILD CARDS
1 2 Wild Royal Flush 1000.0000
2 2 5 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 375.0000
3 2 Straight Flush 250.0000
4 2 4 Card Diam/Club RF, WWJT, WWQT 91.5519
5 2 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 87.7660
6 2 4 Card Diam/Club RF, WWAX, WWKX, WWQJ 82.0533
7 2 4 of a Kind, Jack 75.0000
8 2 4 Card Heart/Spade RF 62.2340
9 2 4 Card Diam/Club SF, Low WWAX, WW23-WW9T: 0 gaps, 38.5470
WW24-WW9J: 1 gap, WW25-WW9Q: 2 gaps,
WW26-WW9K: 3 gaps
10 2 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WWAX, WW9Q, 37.3259
WW23-WW9T: 0 gaps, WW24-WW8T: 1 gap,
WW25-WW7T: 2 gaps, WW26-WW6T: 3 gaps,
WW8Q-WW9K: 3 gaps
11 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 10, Ace, Queen, King 26.7158
12 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade 10 24.6896
13 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 6, 5, 7 24.1564
14 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade 5, 6 24.0867
15 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 8, 9 24.0519
16 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade Ace, 7, 4 23.4895
17 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 4 23.3835
18 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade Queen 23.2646
19 2 Hold Only the Two Wild Cards 23.3082
HANDS WITH 1 WILD CARD
1 1 Suited Royal Flush 4000.0000
2 1 Wild Royal Flush 1000.0000
3 1 5 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 375.0000
4 1 Straight Flush 250.0000
5 1 4 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF 112.2422
6 1 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 87.7660
7 1 4 Card Diam/Club RF 70.9763
8 1 4 Card Heart/Spade Unsuited RF 48.4124
9 1 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, W9XQ, W234-W89T: 0 gaps, 26.3191
W2X5-W7XT: 1 gap
10 1 Full House 25.0000
11 1 4 Card Diam/Club SF 23.7980
12 1 3 of a Kind, Queen, King 15.7063
13 1 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WAXX, 19.5698
W2X6-W6XT: 2 gaps, W8XQ-W9XK: 2 gaps
14 1 3 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Ace 15.7064
15 1 Flush 15.0000
16 1 3 Card Diam/Club RF, WJT, WQT, WQJ 10.8142
17 1 3 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF, WQT 10.3586
18 1 Straight 10.0000
19 1 3 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF, WKT, WKQ 9.7178
20 1 3 of a Kind, Jack 9.1998
21 1 3 Card Diam/Club RF, WAX, WKX 9.3219
22 1 3 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF, WAT, WAQ, WAK 9.0700
23 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W45-W9T: 0 gaps 7.7996
24 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WQT 7.5896
25 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W45-W9T: 0 gaps 7.2178
26 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W34, W35-W9J: 1 gap 6.8342
27 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WKT, WAT, WKQ 6.7216
28 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W34, W35-W8T: 1 gap 6.5784
29 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WAQ, WAK 6.2911
30 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W23, W24, W25-W9Q: 2 gaps 5.9521
31 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W23, W24, W25-W7T: 2 gaps 5.8368
32 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 10 5.3301
33 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, Low WAX, W26-W59: 3 gaps, 5.1266
W8Q-W9K: 3 gaps
34 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 5, 6 5.0441
35 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WAX, W26-W6T: 3 gaps 5.0144
36 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 6 4.9978
37 1 Hold 1 Wild + Heart/Spade 6, 5 4.9971
38 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 5 4.9964
39 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 7 4.9933
40 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 10 4.9782
41 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club Queen, 8, Ace 4.9701
42 1 Hold Only the Wild Card 4.9728
HANDS WITH NO WILD CARDS
1 0 Royal Flush 4000.0000
2 0 Straight Flush 250.0000
3 0 4 Card Royal Flush 127.9681
4 0 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 87.7660
5 0 Full House 25.0000
6 0 4 Card Diam/Club SF 20.3107
7 0 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low AXXX, 19.4463
2345-789T: 0 gaps, 2XX6-6XXT: 1 gap,
8XXQ-9XXK: 1 gap
8 0 3 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 15.7064
9 0 Flush 15.0000
10 0 3 Card Diam/Club RF, XXX - No Ace 10.5136
11 0 Straight 10.0000
12 0 3 Card Diam/Club RF, AXX 9.4848
13 0 2 Pair 7.5275
14 0 3 Card Heart/Spade RF 6.7539
15 0 3 Card Diam/Club SF 3.2961
16 0 One Pair, 9, 10 3.4457
17 0 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, 345-89T: 0 gaps 3.9101
18 0 One Pair, 2 thru 8, Queen thru Ace 3.4459
19 0 4 Card Flush 3.3761
20 0 3 Card Diam/Club SF, Low AXX, 234, 2X5-9XQ: 1 gap, 2.9604
2X6-9XK: 2 gaps
21 0 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low AXX, 234, 9XQ, 2.7012
2X5-7XT: 1 gap, 2X6-6XT: 2 gaps, 8XQ-9XK: 2 gaps
22 0 4 Card Straight, 2345-TJQK: 0 gaps 2.0686
23 0 2 Card Diam/Club RF, JT, KQ 1.8854
24 0 One Pair, Jack 1.8335
25 0 2 Card Diam/Club RF, QT, KT, AT, QJ, KJ, AQ, AK 1.7527
26 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 45-9T: 0 gaps 1.5190
27 0 2 Card Diam/Club RF, AJ 1.4811
28 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, QT 1.4545
29 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 34, 35-8T: 1 gap 1.3810
30 0 2 Card Heart/Spade SF, 45-9T: 0 gaps 1.3942
31 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, KT, KQ 1.3657
32 0 2 Card Heart/Spade SF, 34, 35-79: 1 gap 1.3163
33 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, AT, AQ, AK 1.2792
34 0 4 Card Straight, Low AXXX, 2XX6-7XXJ: 1 gap 1.2766
35 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 23, 24, 25-7T: 2 gaps 1.2389
36 0 Hold Diam/Club 10 1.2394
37 0 Hold None 1.2198
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November 3rd, 2018 at 10:28:43 PM permalink
Oh my god thank you so much for your efforts. I really appreciate it.
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November 3rd, 2018 at 11:50:16 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

From Wolf - 200/75/50 (100.24%)


Rank W Strategy Play Return
HANDS WITH 2 WILD CARDS
1 2 Wild Royal Flush 1000.0000
2 2 5 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 375.0000
3 2 Straight Flush 250.0000
4 2 4 Card Diam/Club RF, WWJT, WWQT 91.5519
5 2 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 87.7660
6 2 4 Card Diam/Club RF, WWAX, WWKX, WWQJ 82.0533
7 2 4 of a Kind, Jack 75.0000
8 2 4 Card Heart/Spade RF 62.2340
9 2 4 Card Diam/Club SF, Low WWAX, WW23-WW9T: 0 gaps, 38.5470
WW24-WW9J: 1 gap, WW25-WW9Q: 2 gaps,
WW26-WW9K: 3 gaps
10 2 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WWAX, WW9Q, 37.3259
WW23-WW9T: 0 gaps, WW24-WW8T: 1 gap,
WW25-WW7T: 2 gaps, WW26-WW6T: 3 gaps,
WW8Q-WW9K: 3 gaps
11 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 10, Ace, Queen, King 26.7158
12 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade 10 24.6896
13 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 6, 5, 7 24.1564
14 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade 5, 6 24.0867
15 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 8, 9 24.0519
16 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade Ace, 7, 4 23.4895
17 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 4 23.3835
18 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade Queen 23.2646
19 2 Hold Only the Two Wild Cards 23.3082
HANDS WITH 1 WILD CARD
1 1 Suited Royal Flush 4000.0000
2 1 Wild Royal Flush 1000.0000
3 1 5 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 375.0000
4 1 Straight Flush 250.0000
5 1 4 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF 112.2422
6 1 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 87.7660
7 1 4 Card Diam/Club RF 70.9763
8 1 4 Card Heart/Spade Unsuited RF 48.4124
9 1 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, W9XQ, W234-W89T: 0 gaps, 26.3191
W2X5-W7XT: 1 gap
10 1 Full House 25.0000
11 1 4 Card Diam/Club SF 23.7980
12 1 3 of a Kind, Queen, King 15.7063
13 1 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WAXX, 19.5698
W2X6-W6XT: 2 gaps, W8XQ-W9XK: 2 gaps
14 1 3 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Ace 15.7064
15 1 Flush 15.0000
16 1 3 Card Diam/Club RF, WJT, WQT, WQJ 10.8142
17 1 3 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF, WQT 10.3586
18 1 Straight 10.0000
19 1 3 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF, WKT, WKQ 9.7178
20 1 3 of a Kind, Jack 9.1998
21 1 3 Card Diam/Club RF, WAX, WKX 9.3219
22 1 3 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF, WAT, WAQ, WAK 9.0700
23 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W45-W9T: 0 gaps 7.7996
24 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WQT 7.5896
25 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W45-W9T: 0 gaps 7.2178
26 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W34, W35-W9J: 1 gap 6.8342
27 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WKT, WAT, WKQ 6.7216
28 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W34, W35-W8T: 1 gap 6.5784
29 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WAQ, WAK 6.2911
30 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W23, W24, W25-W9Q: 2 gaps 5.9521
31 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W23, W24, W25-W7T: 2 gaps 5.8368
32 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 10 5.3301
33 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, Low WAX, W26-W59: 3 gaps, 5.1266
W8Q-W9K: 3 gaps
34 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 5, 6 5.0441
35 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WAX, W26-W6T: 3 gaps 5.0144
36 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 6 4.9978
37 1 Hold 1 Wild + Heart/Spade 6, 5 4.9971
38 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 5 4.9964
39 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 7 4.9933
40 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 10 4.9782
41 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club Queen, 8, Ace 4.9701
42 1 Hold Only the Wild Card 4.9728
HANDS WITH NO WILD CARDS
1 0 Royal Flush 4000.0000
2 0 Straight Flush 250.0000
3 0 4 Card Royal Flush 127.9681
4 0 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 87.7660
5 0 Full House 25.0000
6 0 4 Card Diam/Club SF 20.3107
7 0 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low AXXX, 19.4463
2345-789T: 0 gaps, 2XX6-6XXT: 1 gap,
8XXQ-9XXK: 1 gap
8 0 3 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 15.7064
9 0 Flush 15.0000
10 0 3 Card Diam/Club RF, XXX - No Ace 10.5136
11 0 Straight 10.0000
12 0 3 Card Diam/Club RF, AXX 9.4848
13 0 2 Pair 7.5275
14 0 3 Card Heart/Spade RF 6.7539
15 0 3 Card Diam/Club SF 3.2961
16 0 One Pair, 9, 10 3.4457
17 0 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, 345-89T: 0 gaps 3.9101
18 0 One Pair, 2 thru 8, Queen thru Ace 3.4459
19 0 4 Card Flush 3.3761
20 0 3 Card Diam/Club SF, Low AXX, 234, 2X5-9XQ: 1 gap, 2.9604
2X6-9XK: 2 gaps
21 0 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low AXX, 234, 9XQ, 2.7012
2X5-7XT: 1 gap, 2X6-6XT: 2 gaps, 8XQ-9XK: 2 gaps
22 0 4 Card Straight, 2345-TJQK: 0 gaps 2.0686
23 0 2 Card Diam/Club RF, JT, KQ 1.8854
24 0 One Pair, Jack 1.8335
25 0 2 Card Diam/Club RF, QT, KT, AT, QJ, KJ, AQ, AK 1.7527
26 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 45-9T: 0 gaps 1.5190
27 0 2 Card Diam/Club RF, AJ 1.4811
28 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, QT 1.4545
29 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 34, 35-8T: 1 gap 1.3810
30 0 2 Card Heart/Spade SF, 45-9T: 0 gaps 1.3942
31 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, KT, KQ 1.3657
32 0 2 Card Heart/Spade SF, 34, 35-79: 1 gap 1.3163
33 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, AT, AQ, AK 1.2792
34 0 4 Card Straight, Low AXXX, 2XX6-7XXJ: 1 gap 1.2766
35 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 23, 24, 25-7T: 2 gaps 1.2389
36 0 Hold Diam/Club 10 1.2394
37 0 Hold None 1.2198



Follow up question. Where does this paytable exist? Lol

I should have played the 99.98% version for a few minutes at SLS when I had the chance. Doh. Every other OEJ machine I've seen has been the 96.xx% version.
bobbartop
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November 4th, 2018 at 1:49:28 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Follow up question. Where does this paytable exist? Lol

I should have played the 99.98% version for a few minutes at SLS when I had the chance. Doh. Every other OEJ machine I've seen has been the 96.xx% version.




I didn't realize it was so close to extinction until you pointed this out. I've never attempted to play it, nor followed its locations. In my mind I may have been imagining a decade ago. In fact, I can now clearly remember some at Sam's Town, they were upstairs and of the 101.4% version, right next to the old Sam's Town Deuces. Sure, they took those out around 2006, but I figured there must be some version around. Guess not. lol

If the OP has another paytable he would like me to run and post, let me know.
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November 4th, 2018 at 8:10:54 AM permalink
Quote:


If the OP has another paytable he would like me to run and post, let me know.



I guess in that case would you mind running both the 99.98% 800-180-80-50-15-5-3-2-1-1 and the 101.40% 1600-100-100-50-10-5-4-2-1-1-1 tables as well then? Thanks in advance.
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November 4th, 2018 at 9:06:24 AM permalink
Quote: tuatara6

I guess in that case would you mind running both the 99.98% 800-180-80-50-15-5-3-2-1-1 and the 101.40% 1600-100-100-50-10-5-4-2-1-1-1 tables as well then? Thanks in advance.




First of all, I have to say that Wolf is amazing. It will be a sad day when my hard drive crashes and I can't get it back. Anyway, below is 99.94. To get 99.98 it would probably fill up a couple pages. Vpfree2 has this game listed at the Legacy in Reno. Another close version is also listed at the Legacy, and at Tuscany in Vegas. I've seen the ones at Tuscany. They are 98.96. I can post that later. They are 150/75/50.

Do you know of other games that are not listed on Vpfree2? Are you actually playing this game somewhere?

Also, the 101.4 was probably only at Sam's, ever. I looked and found it was removed in September 2008, along with the ST Deuces. The note says they were coin-droppers. My memory says the STDeuces were TITO, or would accept bills. I played those. Think they were 100.9. And they gave 1 point for 1 dollar, unlike other positive games at that time that took $2-1 point. I remember. Anyway, you'll never see those again.


Rank W Strategy Play Return
HANDS WITH 2 WILD CARDS
1 2 Wild Royal Flush 900.0000
2 2 5 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 400.0000
3 2 Straight Flush 250.0000
4 2 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 88.8298
5 2 4 Card Diam/Club RF, WWJT, WWQT, WWKT, WWQJ, WWKQ 81.8994
6 2 4 of a Kind, Jack 75.0000
7 2 4 Card Diam/Club RF, WWAX, WWKJ 73.3892
8 2 4 Card Heart/Spade RF 57.9787
9 2 4 Card Diam/Club SF, Low WWAX, WW23-WW9T: 0 gaps, 38.5470
WW24-WW9J: 1 gap, WW25-WW9Q: 2 gaps,
WW26-WW9K: 3 gaps
10 2 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WWAX, WW9Q, 37.3259
WW23-WW9T: 0 gaps, WW24-WW8T: 1 gap,
WW25-WW7T: 2 gaps, WW26-WW6T: 3 gaps,
WW8Q-WW9K: 3 gaps
11 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 10, Ace, Queen, King 26.2301
12 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade 10 24.4815
13 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 6, 5, 7 24.2258
14 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade 5, 6 24.1561
15 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 8, 9 24.1213
16 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade Ace, 7, 4 23.4485
17 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 4 23.4529
18 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade 8 23.2221
19 2 Hold Only the Two Wild Cards 23.2346
HANDS WITH 1 WILD CARD
1 1 Suited Royal Flush 4000.0000
2 1 Wild Royal Flush 900.0000
3 1 5 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 400.0000
4 1 Straight Flush 250.0000
5 1 4 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF 110.1145
6 1 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 88.8298
7 1 4 Card Diam/Club RF 64.5934
8 1 4 Card Heart/Spade Unsuited RF 44.1571
9 1 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, W9XQ, W234-W89T: 0 gaps, 26.3191
W2X5-W7XT: 1 gap
10 1 Full House 25.0000
11 1 4 Card Diam/Club SF 23.7980
12 1 3 of a Kind, Queen, King 15.7757
13 1 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WAXX, 19.5698
W2X6-W6XT: 2 gaps, W8XQ-W9XK: 2 gaps
14 1 3 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Ace 15.7758
15 1 Flush 15.0000
16 1 3 Card Diam/Club RF, WJT, WQT 10.5203
17 1 3 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF, WQT 10.1736
18 1 Straight 10.0000
19 1 3 Card Diam/Club RF, WKT, WQJ, WKQ 9.5728
20 1 3 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF, WKT, WKQ 9.5328
21 1 3 of a Kind, Jack 9.1998
22 1 3 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF, WAT, WAQ, WAK 8.8850
23 1 3 Card Diam/Club RF, WAX, WKJ 8.5158
24 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W45-W9T: 0 gaps 7.7996
25 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W45-W9T: 0 gaps 7.2181
26 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WQT 7.3115
27 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W34, W35-W9J: 1 gap 6.8342
28 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WKT, WAT, WKQ 6.4441
29 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W34, W35-W8T: 1 gap 6.5784
30 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WAQ, WAK 6.0136
31 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W23, W24, W25-W9Q: 2 gaps 5.9521
32 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W23, W24, W25-W7T: 2 gaps 5.8368
33 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 10 5.2746
34 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, Low WAX, W26-W59: 3 gaps, 5.1266
W8Q-W9K: 3 gaps
35 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 5, 6 5.0503
36 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WAX, W26-W6T: 3 gaps 5.0144
37 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 6 5.0039
38 1 Hold 1 Wild + Heart/Spade 6, 5 5.0033
39 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 5 5.0026
40 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 7 4.9995
41 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 10 4.9659
42 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 8, 9, Queen 4.9460
43 1 Hold Only the Wild Card 4.9660
HANDS WITH NO WILD CARDS
1 0 Royal Flush 4000.0000
2 0 Straight Flush 250.0000
3 0 4 Card Royal Flush 124.0753
4 0 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 88.8298
5 0 Full House 25.0000
6 0 4 Card Diam/Club SF 20.3107
7 0 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low AXXX, 19.4463
2345-789T: 0 gaps, 2XX6-6XXT: 1 gap,
8XXQ-9XXK: 1 gap
8 0 3 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 15.7758
9 0 Flush 15.0000
10 0 3 Card Diam/Club RF, QJT 10.7080
11 0 Straight 10.0000
12 0 3 Card Diam/Club RF, AXX, KXX 9.2866
13 0 2 Pair 7.5275
14 0 3 Card Heart/Spade RF 6.5689
15 0 3 Card Diam/Club SF 3.2961
16 0 One Pair, 9, 10 3.4519
17 0 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, 345-89T: 0 gaps 3.9101
18 0 One Pair, 2 thru 8, Queen thru Ace 3.4520
19 0 4 Card Flush 3.3761
20 0 3 Card Diam/Club SF, Low AXX, 234, 2X5-9XQ: 1 gap, 2.9604
2X6-9XK: 2 gaps
21 0 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low AXX, 234, 9XQ, 2.7012
2X5-7XT: 1 gap, 2X6-6XT: 2 gaps, 8XQ-9XK: 2 gaps
22 0 4 Card Straight, 2345-TJQK: 0 gaps 2.0686
23 0 One Pair, Jack 1.8335
24 0 2 Card Diam/Club RF, KX, QX, XT 1.7252
25 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 45-9T: 0 gaps 1.5190
26 0 2 Card Diam/Club RF, AJ 1.4256
27 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, QT 1.4360
28 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 34, 35-8T: 1 gap 1.3810
29 0 2 Card Heart/Spade SF, 45-9T: 0 gaps 1.3942
30 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, KT, KQ 1.3472
31 0 2 Card Heart/Spade SF, 34, 35-79: 1 gap 1.3163
32 0 4 Card Straight, Low AXXX, 2XX6-7XXJ: 1 gap 1.2766
33 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, AT, AQ, AK 1.2606
34 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 23, 24, 25-7T: 2 gaps 1.2389
35 0 Hold Diam/Club 10 1.2322
36 0 Hold None 1.2184
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tuatara6
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November 4th, 2018 at 9:38:28 AM permalink
Thank you so much again for all your help, it's really appreciated. I'm a younger guy currently going to school in Reno so I have access to the ones at Legacy. I haven't been able to find any other machines unfortunately, save for random gameking machines with 95% or less pay tables.

I got into vp about a year ago and have been trying to learn the strategies for as many of the better games as I can. I have to admit that some of the games that I learned the strategies for aren't even games I enjoy very much, I just did so for educational purposes. So I'm aware that the 101.4% pay table is long extinct, I just thought I'd ask for it too for preservational purposes. But I completely understand you not wanting to waste time running and posting a game that won't ever be playable again.

Again thank you very much for your time and efforts good sir.
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November 4th, 2018 at 5:03:09 PM permalink
Here's the other one at the Legacy, also at Tuscany in Vegas, at 98.91. It's 98.96 with penalties, again, too long to post. To me it seems like a waste of effort, but to each his own, and good luck, have fun.

1-1-2-3-5-15-50-75-150-800

Rank W Strategy Play Return
HANDS WITH 2 WILD CARDS
1 2 Wild Royal Flush 750.0000
2 2 5 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 375.0000
3 2 Straight Flush 250.0000
4 2 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 87.7660
5 2 4 Card Diam/Club RF, WWJT, WWQT 75.7909
6 2 4 of a Kind, Jack 75.0000
7 2 4 Card Diam/Club RF, WWAX, WWKX, WWQJ 66.1063
8 2 4 Card Heart/Spade RF 51.5957
9 2 4 Card Diam/Club SF, Low WWAX, WW23-WW9T: 0 gaps, 38.5470
WW24-WW9J: 1 gap, WW25-WW9Q: 2 gaps,
WW26-WW9K: 3 gaps
10 2 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WWAX, WW9Q, 37.3259
WW23-WW9T: 0 gaps, WW24-WW8T: 1 gap,
WW25-WW7T: 2 gaps, WW26-WW6T: 3 gaps,
WW8Q-WW9K: 3 gaps
11 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 10, Ace, Queen, King, 6, 24.9560
5, 7
12 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade 6, 5 24.0866
13 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 8, 9 24.0447
14 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade 10, 7, 4 23.5825
15 2 Hold 2 Wild + Diam/Club 4 23.3786
16 2 Hold 2 Wild + Heart/Spade 8, Ace 23.1151
17 2 Hold Only the Two Wild Cards 22.9632
HANDS WITH 1 WILD CARD
1 1 Suited Royal Flush 4000.0000
2 1 Wild Royal Flush 750.0000
3 1 5 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 375.0000
4 1 Straight Flush 250.0000
5 1 4 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF 106.9230
6 1 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 87.7660
7 1 4 Card Diam/Club RF 55.0189
8 1 4 Card Heart/Spade Unsuited RF 37.7741
9 1 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, W9XQ, W234-W89T: 0 gaps, 26.3191
W2X5-W7XT: 1 gap
10 1 Full House 25.0000
11 1 4 Card Diam/Club SF 23.7980
12 1 3 of a Kind, Queen, King 15.7063
13 1 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WAXX, 19.5698
W2X6-W6XT: 2 gaps, W8XQ-W9XK: 2 gaps
14 1 3 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Ace 15.7064
15 1 Flush 15.0000
16 1 Straight 10.0000
17 1 3 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF, WQT 9.9031
18 1 3 Card Diam/Club RF, WJT, WQT 9.6897
19 1 3 of a Kind, Jack 9.1998
20 1 3 Card Heart/Spade Suited RF, WKT, WAT, WKQ, WAQ, 8.8563
WAK
21 1 3 Card Diam/Club RF, WKT, WAT, WQJ, WKJ, WKQ 8.3932
22 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W45-W9T: 0 gaps 7.8001
23 1 3 Card Diam/Club RF, WAQ, WAK 7.7619
24 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W45-W9T: 0 gaps 7.2184
25 1 3 Card Diam/Club RF, WAJ 7.1223
26 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W34, W35-W9J: 1 gap 6.8345
27 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WQT, WKT 6.5584
28 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W34, W35-W8T: 1 gap 6.5752
29 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WKQ 6.2451
30 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, W23, W24, W25-W9Q: 2 gaps 5.9524
31 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WAT 5.6035
32 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, W23, W24, W25-W7T: 2 gaps 5.8369
33 1 3 Card Unsuited Heart/Spade RF, WAQ, WAK 5.5946
34 1 3 Card Diam/Club SF, Low WAX, W26-W6T: 3 gaps, 5.1307
W8Q-W9K: 3 gaps
35 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 10, 5, 6 5.0962
36 1 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low WAX, W26-W6T: 3 gaps 5.0143
37 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 6 4.9978
38 1 Hold 1 Wild + Heart/Spade 6, 5 4.9971
39 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 5 4.9964
40 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 7, 8 4.9802
41 1 Hold 1 Wild + H/S Same Suited 10 4.9355
42 1 Hold 1 Wild + Diam/Club 9 4.9274
43 1 Hold Only the Wild Card 4.9277
HANDS WITH NO WILD CARDS
1 0 Royal Flush 4000.0000
2 0 Straight Flush 250.0000
3 0 4 Card Royal Flush 118.2360
4 0 4 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 87.7660
5 0 Full House 25.0000
6 0 4 Card Diam/Club SF 20.3107
7 0 4 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low AXXX, 19.4463
2345-789T: 0 gaps, 2XX6-6XXT: 1 gap,
8XXQ-9XXK: 1 gap
8 0 3 of a Kind, 2 thru 10, Queen thru Ace 15.7064
9 0 Flush 15.0000
10 0 Straight 10.0000
11 0 3 Card Diam/Club RF 8.7242
12 0 2 Pair 7.5275
13 0 3 Card Heart/Spade RF 6.2913
14 0 3 Card Diam/Club SF 3.2961
15 0 One Pair, 9, 10 3.4457
16 0 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, 345-89T: 0 gaps 3.9101
17 0 One Pair, 2 thru 8, Queen thru Ace 3.4459
18 0 4 Card Flush 3.3761
19 0 3 Card Diam/Club SF, Low AXX, 234, 2X5-9XQ: 1 gap, 2.9604
2X6-9XK: 2 gaps
20 0 3 Card Heart/Spade SF, Low AXX, 234, 9XQ, 2.7012
2X5-7XT: 1 gap, 2X6-6XT: 2 gaps, 8XQ-9XK: 2 gaps
21 0 4 Card Straight, 2345-TJQK: 0 gaps 2.0686
22 0 One Pair, Jack 1.8335
23 0 2 Card Diam/Club RF, QX, XT, AK 1.6624
24 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 45-9T: 0 gaps 1.5192
25 0 2 Card Diam/Club RF, KJ 1.4973
26 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, QT 1.4080
27 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 34, 35-8T: 1 gap 1.3811
28 0 2 Card Heart/Spade SF, 45-9T: 0 gaps 1.3946
29 0 2 Card Diam/Club RF, AJ 1.3410
30 0 2 Card Heart/Spade SF, 34, 35-79: 1 gap 1.3167
31 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, KT, KQ 1.3189
32 0 4 Card Straight, Low AXXX, 2XX6-7XXJ: 1 gap 1.2766
33 0 2 Card Diam/Club SF, 23, 24, 25-7T: 2 gaps 1.2397
34 0 2 Card Heart/Spade RF, AT, AQ, AK 1.2316
35 0 Hold Diam/Club 10 1.2198
36 0 Hold None 1.2143
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November 4th, 2018 at 5:37:56 PM permalink
I appreciate the effort, bob. Maybe I'll quickly try the 98.9% version at Tuscany on a future trip. I keep meaning to visit the place anyway.
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November 4th, 2018 at 7:16:21 PM permalink
Bob,
Thanks very much for doing this! Really valuable to those playing the game.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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November 4th, 2018 at 8:01:32 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Bob,
Thanks very much for doing this! Really valuable to those playing the game.




Thanks to Wolf, it's a snap. My favorite video poker software, I walk on eggshells because I think if anything happens to my copy I won't be able to unlock it and it will be lost forever to me. I've never read anything definitive about what happened to Wolf. Is he even alive? Since it is not being sold or supported now, I wish some smart computer guy would post how to work around the lock.
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November 4th, 2018 at 8:07:28 PM permalink
By the way, I forgot to mention, the variance on these One-Eyed Jacks games are in the low to mid 30s. Maybe not the 101.4 version, but that one doesn't matter now anyway.
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July 24th, 2021 at 2:37:42 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

Thanks to Wolf, it's a snap. My favorite video poker software, I walk on eggshells because I think if anything happens to my copy I won't be able to unlock it and it will be lost forever to me. I've never read anything definitive about what happened to Wolf. Is he even alive? Since it is not being sold or supported now, I wish some smart computer guy would post how to work around the lock.



Sorry to “bump” an old thread, folks!

Thanks for the strategies above. Hope you still have access to your Wolf analyzer, bobbartop (and NOT just for my sake, below…)! Have you tried backing up/saving your entire hard drive, either to another drive or to the cloud? You would need to make sure that you could still access Wolf on the new source - don’t know if the Wolf software would recognize that it has been copied… If this is still an issue for you, I’m sure someone here has more experience with this.

I actually have a (very) small opportunity playing OEJ 150/75/50 (98.91%) with a nickel progressive royal. The next best linked game is Bonus Deluxe 8/6 (98.49%). Both returns reflect playing basic strategy without exceptions. WoO shows a royal cycle for this OEJ of 39418.28 with optimal play. On most games, this doesn’t change significantly when ignoring exceptions; however, I understand OEJ has more than its share. Does Wolf give anything like a Basic Strategy analysis as WoO does for other games? If so, can you please tell me if there is a significant change in royal cycle due to ignoring exceptions in the OEJ game above? Thanks in advance!
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August 9th, 2021 at 2:44:51 AM permalink
I'm also curious if anyone has ever confirmed Wolf's strategy. I think I bought Wolf Video Poker just because I found out it had a OEJ strategy that no one else had, but never wrote it down until the software just stopped working and I could find no way to get it working again.

(I can try to evaluate the Wolf strategy the same way I've been evaluating other strategies, but it would need some special coding because the suits are not identical in this game. Basically, the tricks explained by the Wizard at "My Methodology for Video Poker Analysis" won't work.)
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January 9th, 2023 at 8:48:25 AM permalink
Handy tip for noobs to this game: you have to remember to look for the Jack of Spades and the Jack of Hearts.

I made the mistake last night in the garage of just looking at the graphics, but the Jack character set is the same for all suits. At first, I thought that I encountered a game bug when I figured I had four-of-a-kind. The first thing that seemed off was when I didn't get a "ding" to indicate that I was dealt a winning hand. Here's a screenshot and the rules:



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