Steverinos
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July 10th, 2016 at 6:32:57 PM permalink
What is a rough estimate of how many hands per hour a relatively quick player can achieve?
TwoFeathersATL
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July 10th, 2016 at 7:27:44 PM permalink
Quote: Steverinos

What is a rough estimate of how many hands per hour a relatively quick player can achieve?

You might want to specify a game, are you talking VP? Or BJ at a full table of ploppies?
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July 10th, 2016 at 8:10:47 PM permalink
600 an hour. 800 if you're really good. But that's just my guess.
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July 10th, 2016 at 8:14:07 PM permalink
600 in bj is amazing
600 in vp is slow
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July 10th, 2016 at 8:20:01 PM permalink
I can pound 1000 hph in FPDW. If I'm being really casual, pausing to smoke, look up a baseball score on my cell, gander at hot women, etc, I could go as low as 600 hph.

For DB, or DDb I'm a lot slower because I don't play it much and have to think about some of the holds. Likely around 600 hph because I'm trying to make sure my holds are correct and spur my memory. Ten years ago when I played those more 800 hph was easy.
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July 10th, 2016 at 10:17:33 PM permalink
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I can pound 1000 hph in FPDW.



That's really crankin by my standards. I'm probably under 800 consistently. But the original poster should hear the stories of Frank Kneeland. I assume most on this group already know what he can do. And it's true, I've seen him play. It's freakish.
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July 11th, 2016 at 2:58:57 AM permalink
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That's really crankin by my standards. I'm probably under 800 consistently. But the original poster should hear the stories of Frank Kneeland. I assume most on this group already know what he can do. And it's true, I've seen him play. It's freakish.



Many people could play 2 different machines fast and watch/help a rookie at the same time. Some can even play FPDW and a 10/7 DB at the same time.

People need to understand that playing 2 machines on the older machines was very different, because you had time to look back and fourth when cards were being dealt, you got a rhythm going. I'm not sure if playing 2 fast flash credit machines can be played efficiently. By the time you look at the other machine your fist had is ready to go anyways. I stopped playing 2 machines simultaneously because it is a big red flag that affects all VP AP's negativity. It just brings to much attention and it sometimes pisses off ploppys and locals. I certainly wouldn't want to be playing next someone playing 2 machines simultaneously. If I was going to do it I would reserve playing 2 machines for a super strong promo where the machines were slow. If you're waiting on a hand pay or promo payout and start playing the machine next to you.

I have had the opportunity to watch many known serial speedy 2 bangers, the mistakes are often (It's all well and good when you're playing with OPM.) If the play is good enough then it's possibly worth the mistakes.

I have won some bets regarding number of hands people can get out. No one has ever lived up to their claim I felt was unlikely. Usually there's a mistake within 15 min or less.
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July 11th, 2016 at 7:20:08 AM permalink
I usually play around 800 HPH, but I'm also not trying to play as fast as possible. If there's a reason to play fast (i.e.: time-limited promo), then I'd certainly play faster.

I used to play faster, about 1000 HPH. But that's also when I only knew 9/6 JOB. Learning other games and strategies, including altered RF strategies, makes me not as quick anymore.

Mistakes are gonna happen, you can't not make mistakes while playing at a reasonable speed, IMO. I don't play slower now because of mistakes....I play slower because I'd rather enjoy my time a little more than crank out the hands.

It's like going 90 MPH or 75 MPH.....you're still gonna get to your destination, and you might save some time going faster, but I'd rather hang back and relax a bit, instead of having to focus 100% on driving (i.e.: I can talk with whomever I'm near).

I think if you're playing fewer than 600 HPH, then you probably shouldn't be playing because you don't know the strategy well enough. Should be able to instantly notice pairs, 3 flushes, 4 flushes, 4 straights, etc. But that also comes from experience/play time.
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July 11th, 2016 at 8:37:26 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I stopped playing 2 machines simultaneously because it is a big red flag that affects all VP AP's negativity. It just brings to much attention and it sometimes pisses off ploppys and locals. I certainly wouldn't want to be playing next someone playing 2 machines simultaneously.



I saw a guy at Skyline, playing two 10-coin FPDW machines at the same time, so essentially he is playing dollar FPDW. It annoyed me just looking at him and knowing what he was doing. Big red flag, but apparently the casino didn't mind. If I owned the place I would throw him out of there.

There's a regular at Sam's Town who plays two machines. They say he's a very nice guy and always asks other people if they want to sit and play one of the machines. Nice guy or not, it's just not the best of ideas. It doesn't look good.

I mentioned Frank Kneeland earlier, I think he has claimed to play over 2000 hands per hour, accurately. But he's a special person. Like Rain Man, only not that weird. Well, maybe a little weird. He's super smart, and super fast. Like one of those court stenographers. Do you know him or have you ever seen him play? I really liked him on the GWAE Show, he's very "colorful". Very very smart person.
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July 11th, 2016 at 8:47:49 AM permalink
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July 11th, 2016 at 10:20:38 AM permalink
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Better not say way- he may be a member and you will be punished 😉👍




Uh, I don't get it.
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