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September 10th, 2015 at 10:48:01 PM permalink
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September 11th, 2015 at 4:21:54 PM permalink
Please visit my new page on American Poker Gold.

As always, I welcome questions, comments, and especially corrections.
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Mission146
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September 11th, 2015 at 5:08:34 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Please visit my new page on American Poker Gold.

As always, I welcome questions, comments, and especially corrections.



Kind of makes me think of Extra Draw Keno, but for VP. If the casino or software ever became WoO Approved, and you published an Optimal Strategy, I'd certainly try this game, even if they modified it to make it a 99.5% game...as long as there was a decent Bonus going.
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September 11th, 2015 at 5:15:39 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

If the casino or software ever became WoO Approved, and you published an Optimal Strategy, I'd certainly try this game, even if they modified it to make it a 99.5% game...as long as there was a decent Bonus going.



Come to think of it, the strategy may not be that bad. Just use JB's video poker strategy maker as a general guide. However, I'd have to figure out which hands are so trashy as to decline the draw and save a bet. That wouldn't be too hard.
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September 11th, 2015 at 5:15:51 PM permalink
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What recourse do you have if they simply refuse with no explanation.
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Mission146
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September 11th, 2015 at 5:27:17 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

What recourse do you have if they simply refuse with no explanation.



None that WoO would be providing as this is not currently a WoO Approved casino. Beyond that, I don't know.
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Mission146
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September 11th, 2015 at 5:35:57 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Come to think of it, the strategy may not be that bad. Just use JB's video poker strategy maker as a general guide. However, I'd have to figure out which hands are so trashy as to decline the draw and save a bet. That wouldn't be too hard.



It could also be played using your hand calculator, just changing the RFJ and Natural RF pays to be the same as a SF pay, when applicable and when how that Rule works could be determined. The Draw is essentially an extra bet, so much like Extra Draw Keno, take the Draw when the Expected Value is one unit or more with exactly one unit value (if possible) being optional.
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September 11th, 2015 at 5:47:45 PM permalink
Wait, the video poker hand analyzer doesn't handle the joker poker game that starts at a pair of jacks. Rather, it starts at a pair of kings, aces, or a two pair. Also, it doesn't handle the crazy royal flush rule about needing an ace.
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Mission146
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September 11th, 2015 at 6:15:07 PM permalink
Right, I forgot that it's Jacks or Better Joker Poker.
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September 11th, 2015 at 6:53:12 PM permalink
With Joker Poker the 2,869,685 hands boil down to 150,891 unique hands which is what my calculator analyzes.

For this game, I created an optimal strategy file containing these 150,891 unique hands and what cards should be held for that hand.

If anybody is interested, here is the link: apg-strategy.txt (3.77 MB) - you should right-click and Save As somewhere, then open it in your favorite text editor.

In the strategy file, the joker is indicated by a W with no suit.

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