Ultimate X basics questions
Quote: IbeatyouracesTo be able to do this, the multiplier MUST SAY "NEXT HAND" to the left of the multiplier!
Yes, exactly.
There are two spots where a multiplier can show up for each hand.
The big number at the bottom is the multiplier for the current hand being played, or, if no hand is currently being played, for the PREVIOUS hand (just like the cards that are shown are the cards for the previous hand)
Above this, in smaller letters, it may say "Next Hand" and a multiplier. That is the multiplier for the next hand.
If you play a new hand, the big number at the bottom (if any) disappears and the little number at the top (if any) grows and slides down to the "current hand" spot.
Go play the game for free (videopoker.com is a good choice) for a bit and see how it works before putting real money into a machine at a casino.
Quote: IbeatyouracesTo be able to do this, the multiplier MUST SAY "NEXT HAND" to the left of the multiplier!
Ahh, makes sense now, I feel stupid. So those numbers were just for show when I seen them?
Not for show. Once you finish playing a multiplier hand it shows you what the multiplier was on the last hand before you play a new hand. when you see it like that that means someone just played a multiplier hand.Quote: beerseasonAhh, makes sense now, I feel stupid. So those numbers were just for show when I seen them?
Quote: AxelWolfNot for show. Once you finish playing a multiplier hand it shows you what the multiplier was on the last hand before you play a new hand. when you see it like that that means someone just played a multiplier hand.
Awesome, makes sense. Thank you.
Quote: GWAEwell what was the outcome?
Finished a well beaten 7th
Right because anyone playing not understanding the basics is going to play 1 credit then go play the Wizard of Oz. These rookie hacks would probably just be better off playing Ultimate X for full credits than anything else they do.Quote: GWAEbut these are 1 time shots so I think it is best to take a 300% edge for $3.75 than it is taking a 400% edge for $0.25. The edge may be higher on 1 hand for 1 coin but the overall return is higher playing all hands for 5 coins. But I guess you already know that.
I go back 2 weeks later and find I think 3 games, each having only one or two 2x, for quarters.
Quote: RSThe variance in just finding multipliers is amazing. One day I found 3 machines which each had 5 games with multipliers. Each of those games had several multipliers (one had two 7's, another had ten 3's), all at $1+.
I go back 2 weeks later and find I think 3 games, each having only one or two 2x, for quarters.
Tourist heavy casino on the weekend on the first one? Resident vulture took a vacation too probably. Seems like the most optimal time to vulture is a weekend early in the morning (4am or after), to catch all the ploppies.
I sometimes enjoy pretending to play UX's just so people vulture after I "play" lol. Karma is a beast I bet for sure....
Quote: djatcTourist heavy casino on the weekend on the first one? Resident vulture took a vacation too probably. Seems like the most optimal time to vulture is a weekend early in the morning (4am or after), to catch all the ploppies.
I sometimes enjoy pretending to play UX's just so people vulture after I "play" lol. Karma is a beast I bet for sure....
I've had people try to vulture a machine after I finish vulturing it. I think I said something like "this damn machine ain't lucky" (because no multipliers or very few). Someone else must'a thought I was actually playing, he sits down and looks through all the games (or "themes").
Quote: RSI've had people try to vulture a machine after I finish vulturing it. I think I said something like "this damn machine ain't lucky" (because no multipliers or very few). Someone else must'a thought I was actually playing, he sits down and looks through all the games (or "themes").
I know a guy who just tells the vulture straight up, "YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY MULTIPLIERS I ALREADY CHECKED!" lol.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/big-wins/15297-high-limit-slot-win/10/#post368112
Quote: RaleighCrapsStory can be found in the High Limit Slot wins thread. Posting picture here since it is an Ultimate X machine, and it is on topic as it shows the "Next Hand" message discussed above.
Nice hit! But did you leave those next hand multipliers behind for someone else? :P
Quote: djatcI know a guy who just tells the vulture straight up, "YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY MULTIPLIERS I ALREADY CHECKED!" lol.
I've done that a time or two. lol
Quote: tringlomaneNice hit! But did you leave those next hand multipliers behind for someone else? :P
I've done that a time or two. lol
I might have mentioned it already. A few weeks ago I sat down and started to check. The lady next to me said, oh I do that to. Then she said she already played my machine and checked them all. I decided to look anyways and I realized that she only played off the $0.10 denom and left the others. I guess she didn't know that they were all separate.
Quote: tringlomaneNice hit! But did you leave those next hand multipliers behind for someone else? :P
Thanks to the vulture threads on this board, I DID NOT leave those multipliers behind for the next player. Sadly, though, I ended up losing about $100 more by the time I got to the point where there were no multipliers left on the screen, so it was a costly move to make.
Quote: RaleighCrapsThanks to the vulture threads on this board, I DID NOT leave those multipliers behind for the next player. Sadly, though, I ended up losing about $100 more by the time I got to the point where there were no multipliers left on the screen, so it was a costly move to make.
That's why you're supposed to play 5 credits per hand if you want to quit. :)
I must admit that a few months after posting on this thread the knowledge just didn't filter through. Tried to play a Multi strike machine once and couldn't figure it out. Neither could the slot attendant.
Quote: GreasyjohnI wish I'm knew how to exploit multipliers. I've never really played multiple-hand VP. And I know that on Multi strike you can pay one hand for 5 coins and the royal doesn't pay 4000. I'll bet that most of those who know how to vulture machines were show the ropes by someone that knew how. It would be nice if there was a great tutorial with pics to explain every detail. I know perfect 9/6 Jacks, DW and 8/5 Bonus strategies so I at least have that.
As seen in the picture above, to the upper-left of each hand, a multiplier (2X, 3X, etc.) following "NEXT HAND" indicates that the game can be vultured. From the main menu, check all of the denominations, games, and triple/five/ten play options for a game that shows a "NEXT HAND" multiplier. Play all of the hands at 5 coins per hand, and hold/discard cards like you normally would for that game and paytable. That's it. After the hand is finished, you're done vulturing, unless other games/configurations on the same machine have one or more "NEXT HAND" multipliers waiting, in which case, repeat the process on those games.
Quote: GreasyjohnTried to play a Multi strike machine once and couldn't figure it out. Neither could the slot attendant.
If you win on the bottom hand, you get to play the hand above it. If you win on that hand, its prize is multiplied by 2, and you get to play the hand above it. If you win on that hand, its prize is is multiplied by 4, and you get to play the uppermost hand. If you win on that hand, its prize is multiplied by 8. You have to bet on all 4 hands, even if you don't get to play all of them; that's why the prizes are multiplied on the higher hands, because there's a decreasing probability of being able to play them. Strategy on the uppermost hand is standard strategy for the game/paytable you are playing, as well as for any lower hand where you get a free ride (a free ride lets you advance to the next hand even if you don't win on the current hand). The three lower hands with no free ride each have their own separate strategy, so you need 4 strategies per game in order to play it perfectly.
See here for more information and here to practice playing it.
Quote: RaleighCrapsStory can be found in the High Limit Slot wins thread. Posting picture here since it is an Ultimate X machine, and it is on topic as it shows the "Next Hand" message discussed above.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/big-wins/15297-high-limit-slot-win/10/#post368112
So let's say I walk up and see a screen like the one above. I have to play five coins ( $5 ) but I'm playing three hands so would I have to somehow try to keep pressing the credits button until it says $15 bet? What if there were next hand multipliers on only the bottom hand, then would you only play $5 and you are thereby playing only the first (bottom) hand? What if only the bottom row and the top row had multipliers? Could you only play only those two lines? Or do you have to play the middle line too in order to play the top line? Is the bottom line the "first" line? If you play less than $5 ( on a $1 game) you wouldn't be eligible for multipliers, right? If you walk up to a $1 and play only $1 you'd be playing only one hand, right? If you bet max coins you'd only be playing one hand but for max coins so you'd be eligible for the 4,000 coin jackpot AND you 'd take advantage of the multipliers, right?
Quote: GreasyjohnSo let's say I walk up and see a screen like the one above. I have to play five coins ( $5 ) but I'm playing three hands so would I have to somehow try to keep pressing the credits button until it says $15 bet?
Select hands until the multipliers are all covered. Bet per hand, 5 (or whatever you care to). If you have free play on your slot card, activate it. Hit deal.
Quote: GreasyjohnQuote: RaleighCrapsStory can be found in the High Limit Slot wins thread. Posting picture here since it is an Ultimate X machine, and it is on topic as it shows the "Next Hand" message discussed above.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/big-wins/15297-high-limit-slot-win/10/#post368112
So let's say I walk up and see a screen like the one above. I have to play five coins ( $5 ) but I'm playing three hands so would I have to somehow try to keep pressing the credits button until it says $15 bet? What if there were next hand multipliers on only the bottom hand, then would you only play $5 and you are thereby playing only the first (bottom) hand? What if only the bottom row and the top row had multipliers? Could you only play only those two lines? Or do you have to play the middle line too in order to play the top line? Is the bottom line the "first" line? If you play less than $5 ( on a $1 game) you wouldn't be eligible for multipliers, right? If you walk up to a $1 and play only $1 you'd be playing only one hand, right? If you bet max coins you'd only be playing one hand but for max coins so you'd be eligible for the 4,000 coin jackpot AND you 'd take advantage of the multipliers, right?
You cannot bet 5 (or 10) on one hand but not the rest. Your best bet ($ return) is to play 5 credits on every line, doesn't matter where the multiplier is. Don't ever play 10 credits per line when culturing. If you want to play the game as normal then play max credits, obviously.
Quote: Greasyjohn
So let's say I walk up and see a screen like the one above. I have to play five coins ( $5 ) but I'm playing three hands so would I have to somehow try to keep pressing the credits button until it says $15 bet? What if there were next hand multipliers on only the bottom hand, then would you only play $5 and you are thereby playing only the first (bottom) hand? What if only the bottom row and the top row had multipliers? Could you only play only those two lines? Or do you have to play the middle line too in order to play the top line? Is the bottom line the "first" line? If you play less than $5 ( on a $1 game) you wouldn't be eligible for multipliers, right? If you walk up to a $1 and play only $1 you'd be playing only one hand, right? If you bet max coins you'd only be playing one hand but for max coins so you'd be eligible for the 4,000 coin jackpot AND you 'd take advantage of the multipliers, right?
It sounds like you are not recognizing that there is a touchscreen button on the lower center that lets you select how many hands you want to play. You may then choose however many credits per hand.
Quote: DieterSelect hands until the multipliers are all covered. Bet per hand, 5 (or whatever you care to). If you have free play on your slot card, activate it. Hit deal.
No, not whatever, five, if not five, leave it for someone else...lol
Quote: DRichIt sounds like you are not recognizing that there is a touchscreen button on the lower center that lets you select how many hands you want to play. You may then choose however many credits per hand.
Which should be five.
Quote: Mission146No, not whatever, five, if not five, leave it for someone else...lol
It is perfectly valid to play it at 10, if the session will be more than 1 round, but then it should be all hands.
Quote: DieterIt is perfectly valid to play it at 10, if the session will be more than 1 round, but then it should be all hands.
True, and one of two things will happen, either way, it won't take long!
