HorseJeff
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December 6th, 2012 at 8:57:07 AM permalink
Interested in best LOCAL bars (corner pub, tavern, dive, hole in the wall, etc) in Vegas that have full pay machines. My particular interest is JoB 9/6 and DDB. Do they exist?

Thanks in advance!
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December 6th, 2012 at 10:08:36 AM permalink
Quote: HorseJeff

Interested in best LOCAL bars (corner pub, tavern, dive, hole in the wall, etc) in Vegas that have full pay machines. My particular interest is JoB 9/6 and DDB. Do they exist?

Thanks in advance!



In general, no they don't exist. If you find a full pay game in a bar it is probably a mistake. Most bars set their pay schedules between 95% and 97% on video poker.

For eight to ten years there was some great Deuces Bonus games available at a little over 100% that you could play up to $50 a hand. Many people were very sad to see those depart.



Last week a good play the The Greens ended when they caught their mistake. They had five coin DBL DBL games on the same progressive with ten coin games. In other words all four of the progressives paid double on the five coin machines. I believe it was about 107% play.
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December 6th, 2012 at 10:11:20 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Last week a good play the The Greens ended when they caught their mistake.

Ain't that always the way.
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December 6th, 2012 at 11:12:10 AM permalink
Money Plays.

Just west of the Palms. Dive Bar with good beer list and good local music offerings. Cheap Mexican food from next door.

Saturday Nights 7:00pm VP Tournament advertized as Free Play and Free Money.
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December 6th, 2012 at 3:35:03 PM permalink
I would suggest checking out Ellis Island. They have
a big bar, it is close to the strip, and I think the drinks
are cheap, including micro-brews they make there.

But I don't know the price, 'cuz mine are a buck
per drink tipping to the waitress.

I like to play the 99.7 % dueces wild, there are
a couple right outside of the karaoke lounge.
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December 6th, 2012 at 4:38:51 PM permalink
The best I have seen is 9/5 JOB at MVP Sports. I think it is at Jones/Trop. They do quite a few free plays and the player's club is either .1 or.2% but they do have the 4OAK bingo card.
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December 6th, 2012 at 4:53:05 PM permalink
Although it's not a 'local's bar', a great place to play 9/6 JoB is at the bar at Main Street Station. And the beer they brew is outstanding!
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December 6th, 2012 at 5:10:10 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

I would suggest checking out Ellis Island. They have
a big bar, it is close to the strip, and I think the drinks
are cheap, including micro-brews they make there.

But I don't know the price, 'cuz mine are a buck
per drink tipping to the waitress.

I like to play the 99.7 % dueces wild, there are
a couple right outside of the karaoke lounge.



I totally agree with this. I am bit disappointed that I didn't make it there this last trip, but the g/f doesn't really care to walk the sketchy block from the Strip to Koval at night, doh!

They also have 99.65% Quick Quads (QQ) for Double Double Bonus at 18 nickels per 3 hands as well as 99.61% JoB w/QQ.
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December 8th, 2012 at 10:51:48 AM permalink
Many bars will have positive progressives if you do a little scouting.

I found a machine at a downtown casino bar paying out 102-103%, but it was a mistake. I came back later and they had corrected the paytable.

The off-strip restaurant/VP bars generally have poor paytables as a rule.
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July 14th, 2013 at 8:04:20 AM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

I would suggest checking out Ellis Island. They have
a big bar, it is close to the strip, and I think the drinks
are cheap, including micro-brews they make there.

But I don't know the price, 'cuz mine are a buck
per drink tipping to the waitress.

I like to play the 99.7 % dueces wild, there are
a couple right outside of the karaoke lounge.

This is a casino, not a bar perse.

The best games are 99.7 ugly ducks in single line and 99.5 Jacks or better in ten-play. Numerous multi-point days at times makes this a reunion for some of the all-time great video poker players, such as but not limited to the likes of Jean Scott and husband, Eddie Green, Fishhead, Rob the Bull, Brian, and Javier.
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July 14th, 2013 at 8:22:05 AM permalink
There are numerous bars that are +EV in the valley during certain promotional hours.
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July 14th, 2013 at 8:42:27 AM permalink
Quote: JIMMYFOCKER

This is a casino, not a bar perse.

The best games are 99.7 ugly ducks in single line and 99.5 Jacks or better in ten-play. Numerous multi-point days at times makes this a reunion for some of the all-time great video poker players, such as but not limited to the likes of Jean Scott and husband, Eddie Green, Fishhead, Rob the Bull, Brian, and Javier.

Welcome back. I always enjoyed your posts. But where have you been for the past two years? Working a play in Namibia?

The multi-point days at Gold Coast are also always a pro convention. You can usually always see Brad (Jean's husband) and/or Jean there, among other pros whose names I don't know.
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July 14th, 2013 at 9:10:52 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

Welcome back. I always enjoyed your posts. But where have you been for the past two years? Working a play in Namibia?

The multi-point days at Gold Coast are also always a pro convention. You can usually always see Brad (Jean's husband) and/or Jean there, among other pros whose names I don't know.

Lost login information and also ended long running feud with The Wizard involving comps, all is good now.
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July 14th, 2013 at 9:48:16 AM permalink
Quote: JIMMYFOCKER

There are numerous bars that are +EV in the valley during certain promotional hours.

I'm sure there are, though I doubt it would really be worth running all over town on their various special afternoons and nights. People adopt some of these bars as "their regulars" and they become social hangouts or perhaps VP with really comfortable seats and well known waitresses. Sure some offer opportunities on multiplier nights or something if its really a singles bar with good food and good gaming, I'll let the regulars have their bargains.
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July 14th, 2013 at 10:11:26 AM permalink
Flea, would take these a little more seriously.
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July 14th, 2013 at 12:23:45 PM permalink
Quote: JIMMYFOCKER

Flea, would take these a little more seriously.

What is the math less cost of gasoline and drinks/meals at a Burger,Beer,and VP Singles Bar on a Specials Night less than on a regular old night?
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July 14th, 2013 at 8:37:34 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

What is the math less cost of gasoline and drinks/meals at a Burger,Beer,and VP Singles Bar on a Specials Night less than on a regular old night?

Many provide a huge +EV hourly on paper, a couple pros made six figures in bars in 2012.
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August 7th, 2013 at 3:54:51 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Money Plays.
Just west of the Palms. Dive Bar with good beer list and good local music offerings. Cheap Mexican food from next door.
Saturday Nights 7:00pm VP Tournament advertized as Free Play and Free Money.


Winner of the Vegas Seven awards.... so offering specials every seven days.
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August 23rd, 2013 at 9:07:34 PM permalink
Anyone play at Ichabod's on E. Flamingo

Free $20 for signing up on system
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August 23rd, 2013 at 10:44:44 PM permalink
Quote: JIMMYFOCKER

This is a casino, not a bar perse.

The best games are 99.7 ugly ducks in single line and 99.5 Jacks or better in ten-play. Numerous multi-point days at times makes this a reunion for some of the all-time great video poker players, such as but not limited to the likes of Jean Scott and husband, Eddie Green, Fishhead, Rob the Bull, Brian, and Javier.

Jimmy I'm surprised you consider Jean Scott one of the greats . I don't remember seeing her on any great plays or doing anything other then a few small time well published promotions and point multiplier days. God bless her She is a good writer and From what I have heard she IS on the players side.
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August 23rd, 2013 at 11:19:12 PM permalink
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Many provide a huge +EV hourly on paper, a couple pros made six figures in bars in 2012.

What pros... and where did they publish their claimed six figure income from Las Vegas Burger/Beer/Singles Bars?
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August 23rd, 2013 at 11:51:25 PM permalink
Quote: JIMMYFOCKER

Anyone play at Ichabod's on E. Flamingo

Free $20 for signing up on system



No but I'll be going there now. I like bar VP specials because there are more likely to mess up a promo in the player's favor then casinos. I don't drink alcohol though so it might be -EV for me lol
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August 23rd, 2013 at 11:52:57 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

I would suggest checking out Ellis Island. They have
a big bar, it is close to the strip, and I think the drinks
are cheap, including micro-brews they make there.

But I don't know the price, 'cuz mine are a buck
per drink tipping to the waitress.

I like to play the 99.7 % dueces wild, there are
a couple right outside of the karaoke lounge.



I enjoy their free cigarettes for coin-in. Well I buy them cheap from someone who can't get rid of these things :)

I also like their food coupons. Hopefully I'll get bumped up to free food after my mailers.
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August 24th, 2013 at 12:22:01 AM permalink
Quote: djatc

I enjoy their free cigarettes for coin-in. Well I buy them cheap from someone who can't get rid of these things :)

I also like their food coupons. Hopefully I'll get bumped up to free food after my mailers.



EI gives you free cigarettes as part of your play? Seriously?

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August 24th, 2013 at 1:28:19 AM permalink
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EI gives you free cigarettes as part of your play? Seriously?

It's ok because I believe he is giving up his insurance because it's -EV at 20 bucks a month, so no worries. He gets plenty of exercise walking through casinos on his way to the buffet. His hand eye coordination it improving with all the VP he's playing. I bet he can smoke and play with one hand, talk on his cell, all while giving VP tips to the guy who is sitting next to his machine and hitting on him.
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August 24th, 2013 at 1:33:36 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It's ok because I believe he is giving up his insurance because it's -EV at 20 bucks a month, so no worries. He gets plenty of exercise walking through casinos on his way to the buffet. His hand eye coordination it improving with all the VP he's playing. I bet he can smoke and play with one hand, talk on his cell, all while giving VP tips to the guy who is sitting next to his machine and hitting on him.



Axel you are a cheeky bastard :)

But yeah they give cigarette coupons for running through some coin.

Legal warning: Cigarettes are bad for you.
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August 24th, 2013 at 6:03:42 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

Although it's not a 'local's bar', a great place to play 9/6 JoB is at the bar at Main Street Station. And the beer they brew is outstanding!



Agreed, they also have a fun scratch off for all four of a kind.
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August 24th, 2013 at 7:23:01 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

What pros... and where did they publish their claimed six figure income from Las Vegas Burger/Beer/Singles Bars?[/ Never published, know them personally.

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August 24th, 2013 at 7:25:17 AM permalink
Quote: Sabretom2

Agreed, they also have a fun scratch off for all four of a kind.

It's amazing how long this promotion has lasted, must be over 15 years by now.
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August 24th, 2013 at 9:31:13 AM permalink
There are multiple bars in LV now doing a lose $100 get $200 in free play for first time signups.
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August 24th, 2013 at 10:52:14 AM permalink
Quote: djatc

But yeah they give cigarette coupons for running through some coin.

Legal warning: Cigarettes are bad for you.



I'm just shocked that a casino offers this. Do other Vegas casinos do this too?
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August 24th, 2013 at 11:11:27 AM permalink
Bar 702 has full pay video poker when you sit at the bar. I think they have only 8 or so machines and you have to be drinking.

ZCore13

EDIT - I just read a review for Bar 702 from a guy that was there on July 31, 2013 and the paytable has been lowered. No more full pay. No reason to go to Bar 702 an longer.
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August 24th, 2013 at 11:31:52 AM permalink
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I'm just shocked that a casino offers this. Do other Vegas casinos do this too?



Binion's Horseshoe used to comp packs of cigarettes to blackjack players.
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August 24th, 2013 at 11:32:53 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

There are multiple bars in LV now doing a lose $100 get $200 in free play for first time signups.

name one.
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August 24th, 2013 at 2:59:31 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

name one.

T-bird lounges
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August 24th, 2013 at 3:42:21 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

I'm just shocked that a casino offers this. Do other Vegas casinos do this too?



Casinos will usually comp tobacco to players betting $25 or more. Players in the top players club tier may also receive this as a benefit. For example, Station Casinos gives its Chairman players one free pack per day.
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August 24th, 2013 at 3:48:47 PM permalink
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Casinos will usually comp tobacco to players betting $25 or more. Players in the top players club tier may also receive this as a benefit. For example, Station Casinos gives its Chairman players one free pack per day.

They do?

Where do you get them at, the gift shop?
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August 24th, 2013 at 3:53:47 PM permalink
at my place you just ask the pit supervisor.you can smoke all day and night For free for all I care if you're bitten $25 a hand.

ZCore13
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August 24th, 2013 at 6:09:22 PM permalink
Quote: JIMMYFOCKER

They do?

Where do you get them at, the gift shop?



Call a slot attendant and present them with your chairman card.
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September 2nd, 2013 at 12:43:00 AM permalink
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T-bird lounges

I kina figured this was to good to be true.....ok my truth is a bit different because it is mostly true however 98% or more of players are not eligible, you must live within a particular zip code that's close to that location and be a new member of the terrible herbs crappy system. No location included mine my GF's or a friends location or anyone I could think of. They did have a promotion where you lose $100 and get $20 for all new members. That didn't seem good on the -4% video poker. I'm sure they had something better however i didn't want to wast time trying to figured out all the oddball games and bad pay tables.
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September 2nd, 2013 at 12:48:54 AM permalink
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Binion's Horseshoe used to comp packs of cigarettes to blackjack players.



My boyfriend and I recently on our last trip find out that we can use our comps from bunions to buy cigars, we used to go outside and buy from the guy on Fremont at the kiosks but not anymore ;) ...
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September 3rd, 2013 at 12:58:22 AM permalink
I've been eating and smoking well at Ellis Island. Play a few hands of NSUD, then get the steak special with the root beer, and then pick up a pack of cigs to finish up. Now I'm just waiting for my mailers.
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September 3rd, 2013 at 1:51:31 AM permalink
NO MAILERS FOR YOU .... I'm making a phone call now..... how do you spell your last name?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 3rd, 2013 at 9:22:50 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I kina figured this was to good to be true.....ok my truth is a bit different because it is mostly true however 98% or more of players are not eligible, you must live within a particular zip code that's close to that location and be a new member of the terrible herbs crappy system. No location included mine my GF's or a friends location or anyone I could think of. They did have a promotion where you lose $100 and get $20 for all new members. That didn't seem good on the -4% video poker. I'm sure they had something better however i didn't want to wast time trying to figured out all the oddball games and bad pay tables.

Not true at all, I've taken over 15 to T-birds for this promo, some out of state.
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September 3rd, 2013 at 9:26:45 PM permalink
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I've been eating and smoking well at Ellis Island. Play a few hands of NSUD, then get the steak special with the root beer, and then pick up a pack of cigs to finish up. Now I'm just waiting for my mailers.



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