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charliepatrick
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August 8th, 2017 at 12:39:34 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Yup, Gibraltar be owned by U.K.!

But it's a different country, you have to go through customs from Spain. It also hosts quite a lot of online gambling sites. It had one casino but I've not been in it as it was closed (during the day).
fwiw I've been to 29 countries, but most are in Europe.
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August 8th, 2017 at 1:24:08 PM permalink
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Go ahead and try to sneak into Mecca. Especially during the hajj. You'll probably stand out like an elephant at a goat conference.



Plenty of white people do the hadj each year, the clothes are for rent. Wiz would fit right in...
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August 8th, 2017 at 5:02:37 PM permalink
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Since you mentioned your KTB (Kick The Bucket) list, perhaps you would consider starting a poll or discussion thread along the lines of What are your top 7 KTB items? I wouldn't mind starting it, but the thread will definitely get more reading appeal if it had your name on it. Also, you are more intimately familiar with your membership.



Thanks for your interest in it. I don't actually have one in writing but there is definitely a mental one. The Mecca idea isn't firmly on it. To be honest, I'm sure I would think better of the idea if I ever got so far as making plans. I also put a high value on honesty and don't want to lie to anybody about my religious beliefs. Wearing the garb would part of the fun. I actually have a set that I was going to wear to a halloween party but I think the party got called of or something because I never ended up going. This was a while ago.
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August 8th, 2017 at 9:35:37 PM permalink
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I can only imagine how bad that place smells.
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August 8th, 2017 at 9:48:35 PM permalink
I have never been to Mecca. However, I have visited several mosques in the Muslim world, including large ones like the Muhammad Ali and the Ibn Tulun mosques in Cairo and the Hassan II mosque in Casablanca. I have never noticed smells to be a problem there. They are beautiful facilities.
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August 8th, 2017 at 10:45:54 PM permalink
Who is allowed to walk the small circle nearest the "black box" vs. the longer orbit on the outer ring?

Would it be harder to get into Mecca or the "altar room" of the LDS Temple in Salt Lake City?
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August 9th, 2017 at 9:24:14 AM permalink
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Would it be harder to get into Mecca or the "altar room" of the LDS Temple in Salt Lake City?



The Altar Room I'm sure would be much harder. You have to show papers that you are a member of the good church in good standing, one requirement of which is tithing. As I understand it, there is no paperwork or examination to get into Mecca. If you stand out, I've heard you might get questioned, so the key would be to just blend in.
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August 9th, 2017 at 10:05:59 AM permalink
I love Amsterdam, the quality of their food was an unexpected surprise. Not necessarily Dutch food, but they're as international as any US city, which tends to improve the local cuisine. Plus, every single person speaks pretty intelligible English.

My personal rule is to never go to a country that I'm not guaranteed a fair trial. Wanting to go to Mecca makes me think you're crazy, but it's your life.
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August 9th, 2017 at 11:01:26 AM permalink
Quote: Wiz

As I understand it, there is no paperwork or examination to get into Mecca.



This should add to the adventure, if you build up both the courage and interest to pursue a Mecca trip.



Are there exceptions? None that I could find. However, of the 15 known non-Muslims who got into Mecca, here's how one person did it.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/the-story-of-a-non-muslim-eyewitness-in-mecca/

Caveat But having myself traveled to a lot of "strict" places, I tend to agree with Ahiromu.
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August 9th, 2017 at 8:08:20 PM permalink
Sorry Wiz, casinos in Manila, have free drinks, and tipping is not expected ( very few people tip) .

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