TumblingBones
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:34:02 PM permalink
I was in Harrah's AC yesterday and they had one of these undergoing maintenance so I was able to talk to a very friendly tech guy and take some photos:
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There appears to be 3 components: the horse, a middle piece that is on the under-side of the table surface, and a bottom piece. The next two photos so the details of the bottom assembly from the side and top:





In the last photo the rectangle on the left is the NFC chip that communicates with middle piece. I never got a clear look at that middle part so I'm not too clear on how that interacts with the horse. My wife was getting a bit impatient at this point so I had to leave off talking with the tech guy despite having more questions.
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April 2nd, 2018 at 5:36:35 PM permalink
Wow, I'm shocked they let you take pictures of the inside of a gambling device! Even a silly one like Sigma Derby...
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April 3rd, 2018 at 6:01:24 AM permalink
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Wow, I'm shocked they let you take pictures of the inside of a gambling device! Even a silly one like Sigma Derby...


I was a bit surprised when the technician said I could take the pictures. There was also a security guard there but he never said a word.
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April 3rd, 2018 at 7:08:28 AM permalink
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Wow, I'm shocked they let you take pictures of the inside of a gambling device! Even a silly one like Sigma Derby...



Me too. BTW, that is not a Sigma Derby. I am guessing it is the Konami Fortune Cup.
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December 9th, 2018 at 5:34:37 AM permalink
I just read that the MGM got rid of their Sigma derby last month! I guess the one at The D is the only functioning one left in the country/world? I wonder how long they will keep it going.

I was watching an episode of Pawn Stars last night (from 2016) where Rick was in The D negotiating the sale of their Sigma Derby with Derek Stevens. Needless to say, they did not come to terms. I'm wondering if this was just some PR for The D. They didn't come close at all with the price.
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December 9th, 2018 at 5:53:08 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman


I was watching an episode of Pawn Stars last night (from 2016) where Rick was in The D negotiating the sale of their Sigma Derby with Derek Stevens. Needless to say, they did not come to terms. I'm wondering if this was just some PR for The D. They didn't come close at all with the price.



Most likely just a PR stunt. That show is so fake in that they have a lot of friends and acquaintances bring things in that are interesting.

I have known two people that have been on it with no intention of selling. The staff already knows about the items that are coming in and they have the "experts" already lined up. Occasionally when the staff is describing the items their comments are right off of the internet. On more than one instance I have Googled the items and Wikipedia gives the same description as Corey and Chumley.
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December 9th, 2018 at 11:46:49 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

I just read that the MGM got rid of their Sigma derby last month! I guess the one at The D is the only functioning one left in the country/world? I wonder how long they will keep it going.

I was watching an episode of Pawn Stars last night (from 2016) where Rick was in The D negotiating the sale of their Sigma Derby with Derek Stevens. Needless to say, they did not come to terms. I'm wondering if this was just some PR for The D. They didn't come close at all with the price.



The Borgata in AC now has one of these horse race machines. No idea which one it is , I walk by it often but never stopped to read the name
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December 9th, 2018 at 1:37:09 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Most likely just a PR stunt. That show is so fake in that they have a lot of friends and acquaintances bring things in that are interesting.

I have known two people that have been on it with no intention of selling. The staff already knows about the items that are coming in and they have the "experts" already lined up. Occasionally when the staff is describing the items their comments are right off of the internet. On more than one instance I have Googled the items and Wikipedia gives the same description as Corey and Chumley.



There is an episode where someone is trying to sell a first appearance of Spider-Man. He is a well known dealer and friends with the expert they brought in. In a nutshell, a scout contacted the dealer and offered him a chance to be on the show and get a free vacation.
The result was a scripted segment that my friends had a huge hand in putting together.
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December 9th, 2018 at 2:54:57 PM permalink
I liked the show when I thought it was legit. Same with Storage Wars.
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December 9th, 2018 at 2:57:31 PM permalink
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I liked the show when I thought it was legit. Same with Storage Wars.



Same here. The first couple seasons of each were really interesting. Then they bought into their own hype, and .... oh, well. Haven't watched in 3 years or so.

Bucket list. Someday I, too, will find a gold piece hidden in an old house wall. Either that woman was a good actress or that one happened.
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December 10th, 2018 at 1:13:24 AM permalink
American Pickers is 100% real. Don't ruin my dream people.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 5th, 2019 at 1:10:20 PM permalink
Sigma Derby on sale for a limited time!

Buy it and charge admission for its adoring fans—including me!
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March 5th, 2019 at 1:35:46 PM permalink
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Sigma Derby on sale for a limited time!

Buy it and charge admission for its adoring fans—including me!



I would totally buy that if I was rich.

I want a small tabletop version of it.
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March 5th, 2019 at 1:56:24 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Same here. The first couple seasons of each were really interesting. Then they bought into their own hype, and .... oh, well. Haven't watched in 3 years or so.

Bucket list. Someday I, too, will find a gold piece hidden in an old house wall. Either that woman was a good actress or that one happened.



When we moved into our house I found $900 in a butter can in the closet. The closet has a shelf on the bottom and it goes back about 3 feet. There is what I believe is an old fireplace hidden behind a wall and I was trying to see if I could see anything. I saw the can and joked about it being money. I actually thought it was going to be some sort of rat poison or bug trap. As soon as I picked it up I knew what it was. Now I have this hope that there is more money hidden elsewhere. We bought the house when the person living here died at age 95. Who knows what he hid. So far nothing else found. Last weekend I tore down the walls in the laundry room so I can remodel. Was hoping for the jackpot and all I got was a sliced hand.

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March 5th, 2019 at 2:17:30 PM permalink
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When we moved into our house I found $900 in a butter can in the closet. The closet has a shelf on the bottom and it goes back about 3 feet. There is what I believe is an old fireplace hidden behind a wall and I was trying to see if I could see anything. I saw the can and joked about it being money. I actually thought it was going to be some sort of rat poison or bug trap. As soon as I picked it up I knew what it was. Now I have this hope that there is more money hidden elsewhere. We bought the house when the person living here died at age 95. Who knows what he hid. So far nothing else found. Last weekend I tore down the walls in the laundry room so I can remodel. Was hoping for the jackpot and all I got was a sliced hand.



Most likely the family got most of it. When my grandfather died there was money in all kinds of containers stashed all over the place. The kitchen cupboards were crazy. I think that's how people who went thru the Depression rolled.
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March 5th, 2019 at 2:18:57 PM permalink
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When we moved into our house I found $900 in a butter can in the closet. The closet has a shelf on the bottom and it goes back about 3 feet. There is what I believe is an old fireplace hidden behind a wall and I was trying to see if I could see anything. I saw the can and joked about it being money. I actually thought it was going to be some sort of rat poison or bug trap. As soon as I picked it up I knew what it was. Now I have this hope that there is more money hidden elsewhere. We bought the house when the person living here died at age 95. Who knows what he hid. So far nothing else found. Last weekend I tore down the walls in the laundry room so I can remodel. Was hoping for the jackpot and all I got was a sliced hand.



Nice!

Interesting that they are pretty recent, "large portrait" bills, so the money wasn't stashed for decades. I'd check the air registers...
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March 5th, 2019 at 2:19:47 PM permalink
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American Pickers is 100% real. Don't ruin my dream people.



I have like 50 shows to watch of it on my DVR. I probably will never get through them. Unless they are loading different junk into people's houses all the time, it seems like it would be real enough.
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March 5th, 2019 at 2:24:22 PM permalink
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Sigma Derby on sale for a limited time!

Buy it and charge admission for its adoring fans—including me!



Wow, free shipping!

Is it possible to reverse engineer the chip? Does it even have a chip?
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March 5th, 2019 at 2:50:39 PM permalink
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When we moved into our house I found $900 in a butter can in the closet. The closet has a shelf on the bottom and it goes back about 3 feet. There is what I believe is an old fireplace hidden behind a wall and I was trying to see if I could see anything. I saw the can and joked about it being money. I actually thought it was going to be some sort of rat poison or bug trap. As soon as I picked it up I knew what it was. Now I have this hope that there is more money hidden elsewhere. We bought the house when the person living here died at age 95. Who knows what he hid. So far nothing else found. Last weekend I tore down the walls in the laundry room so I can remodel. Was hoping for the jackpot and all I got was a sliced hand.



Or old untouched for years baseball cards
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March 5th, 2019 at 7:38:32 PM permalink
The roms NEED TO BE DUMPED + an full manual scan. and then mame or pinmame guys should be able to get it running.
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March 6th, 2019 at 1:54:40 AM permalink
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Quote: smoothgrh

Sigma Derby on sale for a limited time!

Buy it and charge admission for its adoring fans—including me!



I would totally buy that if I was rich.

I want a small tabletop version of it.



I found one at an estate sale. It was marked "Shucco" and was from the mid60s.
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March 6th, 2019 at 5:17:01 AM permalink
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Quote: GWAE

When we moved into our house I found $900 in a butter can in the closet. The closet has a shelf on the bottom and it goes back about 3 feet. There is what I believe is an old fireplace hidden behind a wall and I was trying to see if I could see anything. I saw the can and joked about it being money. I actually thought it was going to be some sort of rat poison or bug trap. As soon as I picked it up I knew what it was. Now I have this hope that there is more money hidden elsewhere. We bought the house when the person living here died at age 95. Who knows what he hid. So far nothing else found. Last weekend I tore down the walls in the laundry room so I can remodel. Was hoping for the jackpot and all I got was a sliced hand.



Nice!

Interesting that they are pretty recent, "large portrait" bills, so the money wasn't stashed for decades. I'd check the air registers...



yeah my guess is he would put 20 or 100 in at a time and maybe when it go to 1k he did something with it. I doubt there is any more hidden but you never know.
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March 6th, 2019 at 9:14:19 AM permalink
I wouldn't be making any more finds public. Look up "the wall of greed collection to see what can happen when people find money in their own houses.
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March 11th, 2019 at 1:48:32 PM permalink
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Quote: Ayecarumba

Quote: GWAE

When we moved into our house I found $900 in a butter can in the closet. The closet has a shelf on the bottom and it goes back about 3 feet. There is what I believe is an old fireplace hidden behind a wall and I was trying to see if I could see anything. I saw the can and joked about it being money. I actually thought it was going to be some sort of rat poison or bug trap. As soon as I picked it up I knew what it was. Now I have this hope that there is more money hidden elsewhere. We bought the house when the person living here died at age 95. Who knows what he hid. So far nothing else found. Last weekend I tore down the walls in the laundry room so I can remodel. Was hoping for the jackpot and all I got was a sliced hand.



Nice!

Interesting that they are pretty recent, "large portrait" bills, so the money wasn't stashed for decades. I'd check the air registers...



yeah my guess is he would put 20 or 100 in at a time and maybe when it go to 1k he did something with it. I doubt there is any more hidden but you never know.

Happy hunting!
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August 30th, 2019 at 8:43:57 PM permalink
Yet another article about Sigma Derby. This time they address the millennial aspect. The D seems to be trying its best to keep the game alive!
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September 1st, 2019 at 3:36:20 PM permalink
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Yet another article about Sigma Derby. This time they address the millennial aspect. The D seems to be trying its best to keep the game alive!




Great link to Derek Stevens. Thanks for that.
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August 20th, 2020 at 7:51:28 AM permalink
The D is having a Sigma Derby quarter promotion for swag:

SIGMA DERBY NEEDS YOU!
KEEP THE HORSES RUNNING BY CASHING IN YOUR QUARTERS AND RECEIVE LIMITED-EDITION SIGMA DERBY SWAG AT THE CASINO CAGE AT THE D

1lb of quarters for a Sigma Derby cap, or 3lbs of quarters for both a cap and shirt.
https://www.thed.com/i-helped-saved-sigma-derby/?utm_source=maropost&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sigma%20derby&mpweb=1268-3037-114887
How many quarters are needed for both Sigma Derby promo items?
240 quarters ($60) is my answer.
3lbs = 1360.78g
1360.78g/5.670g (weight of 1 quarter) = 239.996473 quarters
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