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Joeman
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Mission146ksdjdj
July 13th, 2021 at 4:54:40 AM permalink
Quote: ksdjdj

I will attempt to correct them on the overpayment. But there have been a few times that I would eventually just let it go (see one "real life" scenario below)
Scenario: I gave $20 for a meal at a fast food restaurant, and they gave me change for a $50.
I said something like: "I am certain I gave you a $20". and they responded with something like "The machine says you gave me a $50".
Then when I was about to leave I gave them one more chance by saying something like "you will be short at the end of the day". But they stubbornly disagreed, so I gave up and eventually accepted the overpayment in change to me.

Yeah, if they don't want to accept that they made an error in my favor, then it's on them. I feel that my only obligation is to let them know of the error. What they choose to do with this information is their business.

I don't recall this happening to me, but it did happen to my granddad. Back in the day, he went to the bank to cash a check. After the transaction, he notice that the teller had overpaid him by $20. He went back and said, "I believe you made a mistake counting out my money." The bank manager responded saying, "We don't make mistakes!" He said, "OK'" and left.
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July 13th, 2021 at 5:53:46 AM permalink
Quote: ksdjdj


The casino I go to is pretty attentive and honest,
Even for table minimum bets they come down and correct dealer errors and over- or under- payments every time I have been at the tables.
Also, if you don't argue with them about it, then you would usually get a "$10 drink voucher" as a table min player / "$25 player" ( and one time it was a bit more substantial, like a "$50 meal voucher").

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Lastly, I voted "I Would Tell the Dealer (My Hand Only)".

Note: If you had done this a few years ago, I probably would have voted "I Would Never Tell the Dealer".



(Quote clipped, relevance to my response)

That's definitely a different matter altogether. If I became aware that a casino made a habit of correcting mistakes that would go against the player, then my attitude on accepting overpays would change as it relates that specific casino---and I would report mispays that affect me only.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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July 13th, 2021 at 6:30:53 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

... I might have been vaguely aware that I was overpaid. In any case, a little while later a suit came out of nowhere, and told me that I had been overpaid, and I coughed up the hundred fifty or whatever it was that I owed on that small hand.



I was playing one morning when a suit arrived, verified a particular player at the table, and apologized, announcing the player had been underpaid on one hand the previous evening. He directed the dealer to cut the chips and pay the patron. Just under $150 iirc.
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July 13th, 2021 at 9:55:22 AM permalink
Yes, once I received a phone call in the room a couple of days after I had cashed out some chips, and was told that I had been underpaid as I recall it was something around five hundred when cashing out at the cage. I hadn't even used my player card so it was impressive that they figured out who it was. I went to the cage, signed something, and they handed me the cash.
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July 13th, 2021 at 10:00:55 AM permalink
The casino pays the dealer to make the correct payouts.
The casino pays the pit people to ensure the dealers make the correct payouts.
The casino pays their security to watch that the dealers do what they get paid for.
When the casino decides to pay me to do the job their workers aren't doing, I'll do their work for them.

I go to casinos to make money. If their inept employees make it easier for me to accomplish my mission, that's on them, not me.
The casino doesn't exist to show me a good time. It exists to take my money. If their employees are ll-trained and unprepared to properly perform their jobs, that's not on me.

Would those of you who give back chips after a dealer mistake correct them if flashed their hole card? Do you correct them when they call your five-card 17 a push when they have 18?
I was at a table once when the dealer tried to give third base a card after he clearly waved her off. The card was a ten and the dealer had a pat hand so the card should have gone to 1st base the next hand. Instead of making a big bet, the player called over the pit to explain what happened and asked that the ten be burned. Not quite understanding why a player would want a ten burned, he stopped the game and called upstairs. In his quest to " do the right thing" as he put it, first base annoyed the table and turned a simple mistake into something much bigger. I imagine any incident that results in a table being shut down for a few minutes has to result in an incident report being filled out so now the dealers mistake is immortalized.
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July 13th, 2021 at 12:16:05 PM permalink
I'm somewhere in the middle, in that I won't mention a mistake related to the cards, but I will if it involves the money. One of each happened to me last Saturday. At PGP the dealer had 4-4-8-9-10-J-Q, but set it as a a pair of 4s in the high hand and QJ up top. This turned what would have been a table loss into an almost full table win. I kept my mouth shut. When I was playing craps there was some dispute over payment that distracted the dealer on my side. After it was resolved I noticed that the dealer hadn't moved my come bet to the nine, since it was a nine that had been rolled. I pointed to the bet, and the dealer misunderstood me and tried to pay the bet. I corrected her.

There's also the more rare scenario involving freerolling. I was playing PGP at the Flamingo once and the new dealer was dealing the wrong direction. I waited until I had a bad hand to point it out.
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July 13th, 2021 at 12:24:05 PM permalink
Iíd have done the same thing with the Craps one because the mistake would have been initiated by an action I took.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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July 13th, 2021 at 4:53:52 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman

My question for Wizard is: Let's say you are playing BJ and the dealer draws to 21, but mistakes it for 22. Thinking she has busted, she pays everyone at the table. Would you still speak up knowing that it would affect everyone else at the table?



That's a tough one and it has happened before. I won't say anything. While I'm not proud to say nothing, it is in the interest of not causing conflict with the other players.
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July 13th, 2021 at 4:59:15 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

That's a tough one and it has happened before. I won't say anything. While I'm not proud to say nothing, it is in the interest of not causing conflict with the other players.



Toss it to the dealer to lock up?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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July 13th, 2021 at 8:18:06 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

That's a tough one and it has happened before. I won't say anything. While I'm not proud to say nothing, it is in the interest of not causing conflict with the other players.

I think that is reasonable. The casino won't notice it, but the other players will.
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