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June 13th, 2019 at 11:22:13 AM permalink
San Gong is a new table game by Triple PG software. It is like baccarat, but both hands must take three cards. Plus several side bets. The house edge on a pair of the side bets is 67%, so I'd be careful what you bet on.



Please have a look and let me know your thoughts. The question for the poll is would you play San Gong?
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June 13th, 2019 at 1:26:49 PM permalink
Pass. Why would I play baccarat with worse odds? I guess this would be fun for people who like crazy side bets and carnival games.
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June 13th, 2019 at 6:49:39 PM permalink
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Heh. Yeah, a Victorian era gentleman and lady? Very strange theming for a game with Dragon/Tiger bets. Perhaps it makes more sense to those in Eastern culture.
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June 13th, 2019 at 8:51:30 PM permalink
Sole determinant would be the house edge on 'reasonable bets'.

On-edit: By this I mean that the side bets, particularly one with a 67% house edge, would not play a role in my decision making.

Baccarat offers Player and Banker bets; San Gong offers Dragon and Tiger bets.

The mere existence of side bets can slow the hourly rate of play, so the house edge applies to fewer hands, but the side bets would not be something i would consider making.
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June 14th, 2019 at 3:41:13 AM permalink
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I guess this would be fun for people who like crazy side bets and carnival games.

IF you are at a physical table those people have an effect on the game whereas if you are at a virtual table the effect would be either non-existent or miniscule.
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June 14th, 2019 at 5:43:05 PM permalink
Speaking of San Gong, I've asked three fluent Chinese speakers what the second symbol in the title means, that is translated to "gong" in English. Nobody gave me a clear answer. The best I got was that it is like an adjective to mean something is for purposes of public transportation. Like a "public" bus. I can't see what that would have to do with this game though. I think "gong" is just how it sounds in Chinese and not meant to refer to the thing one might hit on the Gong Show.



Who is the resident expert on the Chinese language around here? Somehow, I think this will fall to Paco.

Oh, even I know the first symbol means three.
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June 14th, 2019 at 10:12:56 PM permalink
Tally?
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June 15th, 2019 at 2:21:29 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Speaking of San Gong, I've asked three fluent Chinese speakers what the second symbol in the title means, that is translated to "gong" in English. Nobody gave me a clear answer. The best I got was that it is like an adjective to mean something is for purposes of public transportation. Like a "public" bus. I can't see what that would have to do with this game though. I think "gong" is just how it sounds in Chinese and not meant to refer to the thing one might hit on the Gong Show.



Who is the resident expert on the Chinese language around here? Somehow, I think this will fall to Paco.

Oh, even I know the first symbol means three.


I think San Gong as in Chinese Card-Games means something like (3 People) (3 Face) etc...
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June 15th, 2019 at 5:08:05 AM permalink
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I think San Gong as in Chinese Card-Games means something like (3 People) (3 Face) etc...



Thanks Stephen. I think I heard the "face" theory from someone else too. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that symbol can have multiple meanings.
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June 15th, 2019 at 5:14:54 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thanks Stephen. I think I heard the "face" theory from someone else too. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that symbol can have multiple meanings.


Wizard,

Yes, that symbol can have multiple meanings.

That is why I say: as in Chinese Card-Games means something like (3 People) (3 Face) etc...
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June 15th, 2019 at 8:15:09 AM permalink
San Gong 三公
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June 15th, 2019 at 8:47:32 AM permalink
It annoys me that the order of suits is Spades, Hearts, CLUBS, then Diamonds. I have always played games where it is S, H, D, then C.
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June 15th, 2019 at 9:05:56 AM permalink
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It annoys me that the order of suits is Spades, Hearts, CLUBS, then Diamonds. I have always played games where it is S, H, D, then C.

Yes, your sequence is correct and even if you look at souvenir decks assembled by Nevada prisoners that is how the decks will be sorted. in New Mexico employees had to sort decks in that fashion before turning them in for audit and perhaps still have to do so.
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June 15th, 2019 at 9:31:55 AM permalink
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It annoys me that the order of suits is Spades, Hearts, CLUBS, then Diamonds. I have always played games where it is S, H, D, then C.



I believe S, H, C, D is common ranking in many Chinese card games.

It annoys me as a former magician when the order is not C, H, S, D.
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June 15th, 2019 at 10:17:53 AM permalink
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San Gong 三公



Wow,can you cite a source for html Chinese characters?

Also, I agree: I have seen S H C D as the rankings of the suits (for resolving ties) on other games on Asian servers.
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June 15th, 2019 at 11:00:04 AM permalink
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Quote: TigerWu

San Gong 三公



Wow,can you cite a source for html Chinese characters?



I just copied and pasted the text and characters.
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July 28th, 2020 at 7:32:58 AM permalink
I like to judge the game by the best bet, not the worst (although the worst one is indeed a robbery). However, even then what we really have is double-or-nothing with occasional tie and 2.63% house edge. This is precisely Atlantic Roulette level which is itself a greedy variant of La Partage Roulette. Overall - no, thanks.
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