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darkoz
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March 20th, 2019 at 6:18:13 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Guys this is well known stuff that has been talked about in past World Game Protection Conferences. Am I the only one that tries to listen in and read up on it?

You know they just met at the Tropicana, but nobody's openly talking about this years presentations. What should worry most people is the Nazi pipe dream of chipless casino gambling and the absurd robots collecting analytical data on every patron that enters.



Dont keep us in suspense

What did they say at the convention?
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Keyser
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March 20th, 2019 at 6:31:54 PM permalink
Here you go.


https://www.worldgameprotection.com/program/
AxelWolf
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March 20th, 2019 at 11:35:13 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz



I have conversations in the casinos all the time. 7 days a week. I hand people money (handing people money in a casino WOW so suspicious). I am not kitty katty (think a synonym for the real word I want to use) that the casinos are standing over my shoulder like everyone else

I am totally ashamed by my AP brethren right now reduced to skulking in hallways and walking outside huge casino complexes just to do business and wear raincoats all the time

One mistake could cost an AP 10's of thousands and they could cost other AP's money as well by blowing a play.

You may not even know what kind of damage you are doing. The actions could be caught after you are gone. They may change something based on something you have done without giving you any trouble.

I have an old saying.

There isn't a problem...Until there is.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
EvenBob
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March 21st, 2019 at 12:50:11 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz



I have conversations in the casinos all the time. 7 days a week. I hand people money (handing people money in a casino WOW so suspicious). I am not kitty katty (think a synonym for the real word I want to use) that the casinos are standing over my shoulder like everyone else
I am totally ashamed by my AP brethren right now reduced to skulking in hallways



Aren't you the guy who thought it
was fine to tell everyone you knew
where you kept the valuables, when
some of them had access to your
house and could even get into the
safes? How did that work out for
you. It seems that would have taught
you something. It's like the guy
who who drinks and drives and
doesn't get caught 43 times in a
row. Then on the 44th time, blam!

He didn't know the average drunk
gets caught about once every
40 times he drives drunk. He was
relaxed and in the groove, then
the law of averages caught up
with him.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
darkoz
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March 21st, 2019 at 5:31:35 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Aren't you the guy who thought it
was fine to tell everyone you knew
where you kept the valuables, when
some of them had access to your
house and could even get into the
safes? How did that work out for
you. It seems that would have taught
you something. It's like the guy
who who drinks and drives and
doesn't get caught 43 times in a
row. Then on the 44th time, blam!

He didn't know the average drunk
gets caught about once every
40 times he drives drunk. He was
relaxed and in the groove, then
the law of averages caught up
with him.



No I didnt tell everyone I knew where my valuables were. I know a few thousand people

I only told the few people I trusted the most.

If you read the whole thread none of those people turned out to be the thief either. My judgement was vindicated. An outside element wormed their way in.

Live and learn

Once again I stand by my statement. The other APs here are acting like akulking worms wearing raincoats every day and every play and then criticize me for wearing a mask like once every 2 years lol.

BTW - how is that roulette AP play working out for you? Any heat yet?
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LuckyPhow
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March 21st, 2019 at 7:15:11 AM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Here you go. https://www.worldgameprotection.com/program/



Keyser,

Many thanx for the link. Many interesting presentations, but no info about the actual content.

However, I did notice the three sponsors shown at the bottom of the page you provided. One, Global Gaming Business Magazine, probably organized the conference. However, it doesn't actually sell game-protection solutions to casinos. Someone has to pull everything together for conferences such as this one, and GGB seems to do this difficult job well.

The other two conference sponsors do offer game-protection solutions to casinos. I didn't drill down past the Internet home page each presents, but I saw no suggestion they helped with "audio" anything. (True, their video solutions may include audio, but audio is not specifically mentioned.)

Quote: Dallmeier

With Panomera, IP cameras, recording servers, intelligent video analysis and software, Dallmeier offers complete systems and high quality components which can be integrated easily into third party systems thanks to open interfaces (e.g. Onvif).



Quote: North American Video

Our Technology expertise spans IP and analog video, access control, point-of-sale, license plate recognition, intrusion detection, emergency call, intercom, and visitor management solutions all coupled with a premier reputation for outstanding customer service.



If these two companies integrate audio into their video solutions, they appear not to mention it on their Internet home pages. However, I would have enjoyed seeing a free video of some of the conference presentations. Technology, technology everywhere, but never a free recording to view (and hear!)

Did you attend the conference? Or, did you become aware of the conference because the casino was more crowded? Or, buffet lines were so long one had to pack lunch to stand in line for dinner? Or, maybe you became aware of the conference because strangers in suits kept walking the floor and doing crazy, non-gaming stuff. ("See, George, this casino uses Effersen video housings," sez one, pointing at the ceiling.)
rxwine
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March 21st, 2019 at 1:38:36 PM permalink
If I really wanted to catch and ID people in the casino I'd use an assortment of things to keep track of repeaters.

Something to weigh them while they gamble, know their shoe size, facial recognition, left handed or right handed, glasses or contacts, perferred bevarage or none, scars, limps...they read Wizard of Vegas.
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darkoz
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March 21st, 2019 at 1:50:12 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

If I really wanted to catch and ID people in the casino I'd use an assortment of things to keep track of repeaters.

Something to weigh them while they gamble, know their shoe size, facial recognition, left handed or right handed, glasses or contacts, perferred bevarage or none, scars, limps...they read Wizard of Vegas.



Why not put those radiated isotopes into the alcohol so you can use sophisticated scanners to track their every location?
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rxwine
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March 21st, 2019 at 2:04:56 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Why not put those radiated isotopes into the alcohol so you can use sophisticated scanners to track their every location?



Do you have trouble telling people what kind of gift you could use? I got a new idea for you!

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/us-military-surplus-portable-radiation-detector-new?a=80000&pm2d=CSE-SPG-15-SZLA&utm_medium=cse&utm_source=shopzilla&utm_campaign=CI
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heatmap
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March 21st, 2019 at 2:16:06 PM permalink
i love how we have an industry expert here at our fingertips and people still dont believe him (teliot) when he straight up says its true and this has happened on multiple threads. for this reason i trust myself more than most of you

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