Face Up Pai Gow Poker @ NYNY

Quote: MrGoldenSun

What are the table minimums y'all are seeing for this?

Is it similar to "regular" pai gow poker, less, more?

$10 min at NYNY.

$10 mins at Luxor and Park MGM during slow times, $15 during busier times.

Apparently Mandalay Bay now has a table of Face Up with their standard $25 min.

I'll be back in Vegas next week and will check out the other MGM properties to see if any more have gotten it yet.

That 8th card is going to give them so many straights and flushes. Even with the double down, I still think the game is worse than normal.

My guess would be to double with 3 of a kind and AQ or better. Maybe 2 pair with KK-JJ or better.

Most of the Stations properties in Vegas have it. The game is owned and leased by Shuffle Master. (Scientific Gaming)

$10 minimum can be found at a lot of the casinos. Call ahead to check on the availability at any specific property.

I have heard of a 5-12-40 pay table for the Ace High side bet, seen at Canterbury Park in Iowa. This is as opposed to the usual 5-15-40 pay table. Lowering the win on a wild ace-high hand to 12 results in a house edge of 10.52%.

MGM Grand has a table now. The only MGM properties that don’t have this are Bellagio, Aria, and Excalibur (no Pai Gow Poker there at all anymore).

Table minimums have been high this weekend. $25 most of the time at Park MGM and NYNY.

Quote: ams288

MGM Grand has a table now. The only MGM properties that don’t have this are Bellagio, Aria, and Excalibur (no Pai Gow Poker there at all anymore).

Table minimums have been high this weekend. $25 most of the time at Park MGM and NYNY.

When I stayed at the Park MGM last month, I wanted to play but the min was too high for me

Face Up Pai Gow is now in several cardrooms in Western Washington.

I haven't read the whole thread, but this format takes half of the suspense out of PGP. With regular PGP, there's suspense in looking at your own cards and then suspense in the dealer revealing his/her cards.

Gambling is essentially a fancied up version of the following: I hand you $10 and you hand me back $9.47 (or whatever the HE it is for that game). If that were the entirety of the transaction, no one would ever agree to play that "game". So to get people interested, you have to dress up that transaction with a lot of bells and whistles. Some of the bells and whistles are that in any given hand, you may receive $20 or $50 or $0, but the average return is $9.47. And some of the bells and whistles are in the game itself. This format reduces the enjoyment of the game itself, making it closer to the "I hand you $10 and you give me back $9.47".

Quote: TinMan

I haven't read the whole thread, but this format takes half of the suspense out of PGP. With regular PGP, there's suspense in looking at your own cards and then suspense in the dealer revealing his/her cards.

I had the same opinion, but I tried it at Palace Station a couple of weeks ago. The suspense is reversed. You look at the dealers cards, and then you slowly fan out your cards. It starts with, "Can I push?", and hopefully morphs into "Can I win?" Of course, if the dealer has ace high it takes the fun out of it, except for looking for a bonus.

Quote: jmills

I had the same opinion, but I tried it at Palace Station a couple of weeks ago. The suspense is reversed. You look at the dealers cards, and then you slowly fan out your cards. It starts with, "Can I push?", and hopefully morphs into "Can I win?" Of course, if the dealer has ace high it takes the fun out of it, except for looking for a bonus.

I agree. And/but, I'd rather know I push and look for that bonus than get a monster hand in regular PGP and think it was good only to see that the dealer had a queen high or a tiger 9 or whatever commission-free mechanism is used in the regular pai gow poker table.