Straights and 8's

It would seem our own DJTeddyBear was omniscient in predicting that side bets would come to roulette. One of the many games and side bets I saw at G2E was Straights and 8's. Since it already has a couple placements in Colorado, I wrote up a page for it. Please click the link and let me know what you think. As always, I welcome all questions, comments, and especially corrections.

The question for the poll is would you play Straights and 8's? Multiple votes allowed.

Okay, so 5.26 percent ain't enough for those leeches.

First: Why not Straights and Eights.

Second: Will need more precise terminology such as 'consecutive, whether ascending or descending". To idiots like me who can barely master this 1, 2 3 stuff, 3, 2 1 ain't consecutive. or sequential.

You may have to use the word "set' ( you math types like that word). A set (in classical math) is the elements without consideration of order or repeated elements.

I bet everyone just puts their money down and waits for the croupier to figure it out anyway.

There's a sentence I didn't understand in the rules bullet points:

"Three sequential numbers: The last three numbers form are consecutive"

The example makes it clear what you meant, but I think maybe there was an incomplete edit or perhaps an auto complete?

You have my permission to delete to here after you've looked at it.

I think it's not too bad a sidebet based on the HE, but kind of forced on some of the pays. A little hard to keep track of because of the force, though you usually have the tote board for reference, so maybe not too difficult.

This side bet is simple but difficult to explain. I just reworded the rules a page, which will hopefully help.

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Three numbers ending in 8: The last three numbers all end in 8 with at least one repeat. Example: 38, 8, 38

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First two numbers 8's: The first two of the last three numbers all end in 8. Repeats are allowed. Example: 8, 38, 15 or 28, 28, 0

38!?

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Three numbers ending in 8: The last three numbers all end in 8 with at least one repeat. Example: 38, 8, 38

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First two numbers 8's: The first two of the last three numbers all end in 8. Repeats are allowed. Example: 8, 38, 15 or 28, 28, 0

38!?

Yeah, like movies that have a runway 38. They stop at 36, too.

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38!?

D'oh!

>>>>>>Yeah, like movies that have a runway 38. They stop at 36, too.
Always wondered why there is no Runway Zero instead of runway 36.

Anyway, I think the bets are largely acceptable in comparison to the 5.26 percent house edge on all bets in the base game but I doubt dealers will ever be able to explain the bets to passersby.

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>>>>>>Yeah, like movies that have a runway 38. They stop at 36, too.
Always wondered why there is no Runway Zero instead of runway 36.

Anyway, I think the bets are largely acceptable in comparison to the 5.26 percent house edge on all bets in the base game but I doubt dealers will ever be able to explain the bets to passersby.

It's by convention from centuries before flight. A compass reads from 001 to 360 degrees, not 000 to 359. Runways are numbered by alignment, with the ones column deleted, to the nearest 10 degrees.

And, interestingly, as magnetic fields shift over time, runways do get renumbered. Very expensive to change every chart, map, notice, approach plates, signage, and the paint on the runway, but they do it anyway. The idea is, if someone is aloft and loses their electrical system, they can recognize different airports by comparing runway alignment and configuration to their magnetic compass, and shoot a successful approach using only that navaid.

Also, no airport is allowed more than 3 runways NAMED for a direction. (ie 09 left, right center) But Atlanta, for example, has 5. So two of those were originally named 10 degrees off, even though all 5 are exactly parallel.(08 left and right). It's safer to have different names than to have 5 variations of the same directional number.

In ATL's particular case, though, it was too much to ask to change 09 right to 09 center and make the new 5th runway 09 right instead (think the 5th one opened circa 2005). Too much confusion, so that runway is Runway10. The names imply a 20° difference in orientation, like spines of a fan. But the runways themselves are exactly parallel.

The actual orientation of all 5 runways is 094.4°. THIS year. Magnetic north drifts about 35 miles per year, or .2°. That's essentially because the earth has a solid iron core, and the molten mantle over it allows the crust to float on top. (There are other factors, but that's the main one and most easily visualized).

So ,assuming this drift has been consistent, that makes ATL runways (the first 2) about 50+ years old, and when the 2nd two were made (or planned - it takes years to build one), to the left of those, more correct to name them 08L and 08R at the time. There was probably an interim when the 3rd was complete and the 4th unDer construction that they were 09L, R, C.

Yeah, I'm probably too far in the weeds, so I'll stop there. Sorry, I just find it interesting.

No hijack intended, Wizard. Sorry for the sidebar.

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It would seem our own DJTeddyBear was omniscient in predicting that side bets would come to roulette.

Thanks for the kind words.


To be honest, this bet seems like a convoluted way of doing something similar to what I've done with my Poker for Roulette bet.

Unfortunately, 'convoluted' means it's difficult to explain it. Also, I don't get why they focused on eights. But what do I know?

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I don't get why they focused on eights. But what do I know?

8 is a very luckiest number in Chinese.

Quote: MrCasinoGames

8 is a very luckiest number in Chinese.

4 is the death number in Chinese culture and that is why that number is skipped at big Baccarat tables.

I imagine the math would be different if it were Straights and Fours but so too would be the reaction of Oriental players.

With a reasonable house edge this 'extra' should be of interest but I still think its too hard to grasp the rules.

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Unfortunately, 'convoluted' means it's difficult to explain it. Also, I don't get why they focused on eights. But what do I know?

If anyone had asked me, I would have said to stick with either the straights theme or the 8's but not combine them. I don't see what the two have in common, other than that they rhyme.