Rainbow Roulette

The Luck brothers are at it again. Bye Bye Riverboat Roulette is now Rainbow Roulette. Rumor has it that has been in a Las Vegas casino for 7 months ? And the brothers have had interest expressed by a casino in Ohio and one in Canada.
Hang in there DJTeddyBear !

I'm telling you, once you design a casino game that gets an install, you are totally ruined for life!

And I will say this: Dave Miller's Trio-lette (formerly Poker-for-roulette) is better, the best of the lot, being a three-spin bet that makes a three card poker hand. We respect the Luck brothers, but DJ nailed it, if and when they give trio-lette a serious go.....

Quote: Paigowdan

And I will say this: Dave Miller's Trio-lette (formerly Poker-for-roulette) is better, the best of the lot, being a three-spin bet that makes a three card poker hand. We respect the Luck brothers, but DJ nailed it, if and when they give trio-lette a serious go.....

When did galaxy pick the game up, may 2015? Dave first mentioned his deal with them around that time on here.

My biggest concern with the longevity of poker for roulette is this... The game has a 22.3% hit rate, which is attractive. However, of that 22%, 19% of the time players are going to win a 2 to 1 on a three spin roulette wager. Around 1.8% of the time (about once every 150 spins, remember each wager lasts 3 spins) players will win 8 to 1 and 1.2% of the time (about once every 300 spins) they will hit 25 to 1. In a game that many players sit and hope to hit 35 to 1 on a single roll, I'm just not sure there is enough juice to make it worthwhile to play. Of course the possible 100 to 1 or 500 to 1 payout potential is initially attractive, but the .015% chance of a payout above simply hitting a single number for 35-1, in my opinion, is simply lacking in excitement.

I have been trying to brainstorm on how to drop down the hit rate to around 12-15 and allowing you to drive up the low level pays, but I'm honestly not sure how to get it done.

I obviously hope the game gets out and is a hit for Dave, which I have said to him in person. But these are my concerns to be addressed in future revisions, if possible. As always this is simply my own opinion and can be way off...

One Roulette table at Golden Gate has had one or the other of the Luck Brother's games installed for a couple years. I'm fairly sure that for over a year, it's been the Rainbow version.

Unfortunately, whenever I look, nobody is playing it, although the table gets plenty of regular Roulette action. I've asked different dealers when no players were around how much action that bet gets, and it's always "None." One dealer added, "It's a stupid bet."

It didn't occur to me to ask why she thought so. Note that I had not identified myself to her. I could have been a random roulette player thinking about playing that side bet. I certainly wouldn't play it after that sales pitch...


Mr$uit -

I signed with Galaxy in April 2015. While I'm not at liberty to tell you why there has been a delay, I can tell you that Galaxy is still very excited by my game. But as you probably know, in this industry, wheels turn slowly.

Regarding the hit rates and the payouts: Obviously, the payouts can be modified as seems fit.

The hit rate, with the very high percentage being a low payout, is something that bothers me too. I've tried to come up with other combinations, such as no wild pairs, but I dislike rules that have exceptions.

Whether the issue you describe is also an objection of the players needs field trials to decide.

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The Luck brothers are at it again. Bye Bye Riverboat Roulette is now Rainbow Roulette. Rumor has it that has been in a Las Vegas casino for 7 months ? And the brothers have had interest expressed by a casino in Ohio and one in Canada.
Hang in there DJTeddyBear !

The Rainbow Roulette version of the game was at the TG Table Games Conference two years ago. This has been the version the Luck Bros. have been selling for the last 18-24 months. DJ is correct that the new Rainbow version has been at Golden Gate for at least a year now.

Quote: Paradigm

DJ is correct that the new Rainbow version has been at Golden Gate for at least a year now.

But if it never gets played and is a
'stupid bet', as the dealer says, why
do they keep it.

Quote: EvenBob

But if it never gets played and is a
'stupid bet', as the dealer says, why
do they keep it.

Maybe they aren't paying for it. And maybe it does get occasional play.

I know if I were independent, trying to get my game out, I'd offer it for free to whoever did the field trial.

Quote: Paradigm

The Rainbow Roulette version of the game was at the TG Table Games Conference two years ago. This has been the version the Luck Bros. have been selling for the last 18-24 months. DJ is correct that the new Rainbow version has been at Golden Gate for at least a year now.

Actually in 2013 Riverboat Roulette won the Silver, in 2014 Riverboat Roulette was out of the money. Not sure if the Luck Bros
entered anything in 2015 or 2016.

Per one of the Luck Bros, Rainbow Roulette has only been in Vegas 7 months. But, well, you know how them boys are?

UH OH it was Rainbow Roulette in 2014 at Raving Table games conference. Seem this obscure website I used as a reference had the right picture but the wrong name.
That's what I get for accepting that information and not verifying. Not all sites as reliable as this one SIGH !


https://wizardofodds.com/blog/raving-2014/

Quote: EvenBob

But if it never gets played and is a
'stupid bet', as the dealer says, why
do they keep it.

Dealers are generally not privy to the performance stats of any game on the floor. I would never trust the opinion of one dealer, positive or negative. What I would trust is management keeping a game on the floor, that really is the only thing that counts. Keep in mind that prior to the Rainbow version of the game, Golden Gate had the Riverboat version. So the Luck Bros. have had that installation for quite a while...and Golden Gate/The D management aren't stupid.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

I know if I were independent, trying to get my game out, I'd offer it for free to whoever did the field trial.

"1st table, free for life"is the norm. It's the standard. No casino will expect less.

Quote: Paradigm

So the Luck Bros. have had that installation for quite a while...and Golden Gate/The D management aren't stupid.

So the game is about to take off any
day now. Good to know.. We wait
very patiently while the sound of
crickets plays in the background..

Quote: RoyalBJ

"1st table, free for life"is the norm. It's the standard. No casino will expect less.

While I didn't think my idea was all that original, I'll keep it in mind that if its normal, then it's not much of a selling point.

Quote: EvenBob

So the game is about to take off any
day now. Good to know.. We wait
very patiently while the sound of
crickets plays in the background..

I guess reading comprehension decreases with age...Good to know.

Rainbow Roulette got discussed today on the Five Hundy Facebook group, so I made a comment and linked to this thread.
https://m.facebook.com/groups/31330193475?view=permalink&id=10155623677168476&ref=bookmarks

As long as this thread talks about my game, I might as well put in a link to that too.
http://www.poker-for-roulette.com/

Quote: mrsuit31

My biggest concern with the longevity of poker for roulette is this... The game has a 22.3% hit rate, which is attractive. However, of that 22%, 19% of the time players are going to win a 2 to 1 on a three spin roulette wager. Around 1.8% of the time (about once every 150 spins, remember each wager lasts 3 spins) players will win 8 to 1 and 1.2% of the time (about once every 300 spins) they will hit 25 to 1. In a game that many players sit and hope to hit 35 to 1 on a single roll, I'm just not sure there is enough juice to make it worthwhile to play. Of course the possible 100 to 1 or 500 to 1 payout potential is initially attractive, but the .015% chance of a payout above simply hitting a single number for 35-1, in my opinion, is simply lacking in excitement.

I have been trying to brainstorm on how to drop down the hit rate to around 12-15 and allowing you to drive up the low level pays, but I'm honestly not sure how to get it done.

I obviously hope the game gets out and is a hit for Dave, which I have said to him in person. But these are my concerns to be addressed in future revisions, if possible. As always this is simply my own opinion and can be way off...

The fatal flaw for that wager is it's a three spin bet. Needs to be resolved in one spin, or interest will be extremely low (as it obviously is). I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I'm pretty confident that's the reason this is is no casinos.

Quote: SM777

The fatal flaw for that wager is it's a three spin bet. Needs to be resolved in one spin, or interest will be extremely low (as it obviously is). I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I'm pretty confident that's the reason this is is no casinos.

Is it possible that this might be a good match for Electronic Roulette Game.? ?