likeplayingcrapsandbj
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May 17th, 2010 at 1:41:43 PM permalink
It does not matter anymore. This last year I have seen such a change in the attitudes of the dealers. It does not matter if you tip or not. With the fast rotation of the dealers you are going to be giving away a big chunk of your money for just standing there and tipping every rotataion. If you do not tip per rotation the dealers get an attitude. I for one am tired of it. If I tip that once short crew says thank you but the next crews are not aware of it and then you need to tip again. The short rotations are just another way the casinos want you to pay the salary of the crew.
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slyther
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May 18th, 2010 at 4:08:15 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The problem I have with tipping on a line bet is it obligates you to make an odds tip, which may be more than I intended to tip.



I tip on the line and never feel obligated to put an odds tip, though sometimes i will (or sometimes someone else will put a tip on the odds)
gambler
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May 18th, 2010 at 4:25:49 PM permalink
Not sure what you mean by short rotations. Normally, at the tables that I play at there are 4 dealers every 8 hour shift where 1 of them is on break at all times. They usually rotate in for 20 minutes on stick, then 40 minutes as a dealer.

Personally, I find myself to be over generous when it comes to tips. But then again, the enjoyment of the game is a bigger factor for me then money. However, I will say that if a craps crew is not appreciative of my tips, I either will stop tipping or find a better table.
joenunz
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May 18th, 2010 at 5:12:44 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

i get about 3 drinks every two hours from the cocktail waitress so that figures to be about another $1.50 an hour. so between my theoretical loss on the game and tipping the waitresses im losing about $6/hr.




Do you count tips for cocktail waitresses "losses"? Geez, at a dollar a drink, that's not a loss...that's a very inexpensive drink - DELIVERED TO YOU BY A HOT GIRL AT YOUR REQUEST...

I always tip $2 for an alcoholic drink and $1 for a bottle of water (the latter because most of the time they don't need to make an extra trip, most waitresses carry one or two extras)

As far as the craps crew, I have had great experiences with the crews at the Borgata in AC, the place I play the most. Whenever I roll, I put $1 on the 6 and 8 for the dealers every time I establish a new point. I'll do the same occasionally when others are rolling.
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rudeboyoi
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May 18th, 2010 at 6:28:51 PM permalink
Quote: joenunz

Do you count tips for cocktail waitresses "losses"? Geez, at a dollar a drink, that's not a loss...that's a very inexpensive drink - DELIVERED TO YOU BY A HOT GIRL AT YOUR REQUEST...



i think its pretty ridiculous not to include it. its another cost while im playing the game.
joenunz
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May 18th, 2010 at 8:17:27 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

i think its pretty ridiculous not to include it. its another cost while im playing the game.




Huh? If you smoke or chew gum while you play would you add the cost of Marlboros or Wrigley's to your "....total expected loss at the table..." which you are hoping to equal no more than $10/hr.

Maybe this is just semantics and by "loss" you mean "how much I'm willing to spend on entertainment per hour at a craps table"...if so, then it makes perfect sense to me.
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kenarman
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May 18th, 2010 at 8:36:33 PM permalink
I know we have had several posts in this and other threads that feel that tipping might influence comps or decisions on possible dealer errors. This may well be true but I have never seen this happen so overtly that I have noticed. I very seldom make a bet for the `boys`. I do however tip at the end of my playing session. I will tell the dealer in the middle of my session that I will look after him when I`m done if he has pointed out a missed bet or some other help. Since I play very aggressively I usually am not at the table for more than 1 to 2 hours at a time. The amount of the tip will vary with how well I have done. Minimum is usually about $5 but it can be as much $25 or $30 if I have had a good session. The 4 figure wins are usually a black and the few 5 figure wins I have been as much as $500.
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rudeboyoi
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May 19th, 2010 at 10:04:38 AM permalink
Quote: joenunz

Huh? If you smoke or chew gum while you play would you add the cost of Marlboros or Wrigley's to your "....total expected loss at the table..." which you are hoping to equal no more than $10/hr.

Maybe this is just semantics and by "loss" you mean "how much I'm willing to spend on entertainment per hour at a craps table"...if so, then it makes perfect sense to me.



if i usually incur those costs while gambling, i should allocate those costs to gambling.
thecesspit
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May 19th, 2010 at 10:24:38 AM permalink
I bet on the line for table each time I get the dice (if it's busy, maybe every other on a quiet table). If it's a long time for the dice to get round, I'll be when they change direction as well.

Normally a dollar on line, with a buck behind. But I do like the idea of just putting down the bet on the odds instead. I'll probably run it that way next time. Occasionally if I'm really let it hang out, I bet dollar the hard ways, one for the boys.

Normally when I colour up at the end the table gets the shrapnel ($1 chips), and sometimes a red bird or two if I did really well, and they weren't jerks.

I'm not going to be making the crew rich, but I don't think I'm stiffing them.

$4 an hour for a crew of 4 is a $1 onto their wages. If everyone did that at a 10 player table, that's a $10 wage increase... I have no idea if that's good or bad on dealer wages.
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likeplayingcrapsandbj
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May 19th, 2010 at 10:29:35 AM permalink
I think I am going to tip only when I color up.
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